Damnit Kuro! Beat me to it.30fps is a fucking slideshow
and also MGS4 is still coming to 360, right?
c'mon Ami, you know that post was just a wee bit over the top. parse all you like.
If you read that entire post you quoted, you'll know this comment was unnecessary!
And yet still the PS3 remains as the hole in the ground that cost Sony every penny of profit they made from PS2, PS1, PSP and every other PlayStation related enterprise.
Sure, they barely managed to squeak out a second place victory worldwide, but I think the admission from Cerny on the PS4 circuit on how many things they did wrong with PS3 and needed to change is at least partial admission that the PS3 was, in large part, a failure - at least in any way a business would measure it (profits). So whatever, MGS4 part notwithstanding, it may be hyperbole, but it's hyperbole with heavy truth in it. >![]()
wow you just gave another perfect example of hyperbole. how do you do it?
Their attitude deserves a boycott, no matter how
they try to rationalize it. They got funded by the
Indie Fund, did great sales on PC and jumped to
console exclusivity immediately. This really is
nothing short of despicable as far as I'm
concerned, I will not buy A Machine For Pigs or
any other Chinese Room game in the future.
They have every right to make a business
decision as professionals, I also have a right as
a consumer to vote with my wallet and express
my displeasure.
Of course it was serious. At the time we were in, PS3 was losing every single exclusive it ever had from the PS2 gen, every multiplatform game was superior on 360, PS3 was losing in sales worldwide and the final third party game that they still had to call their own of any major scale was FFXIII. When that was lost, I said the comment, which was about that without that final exclusive, I'm not sure how Sony could turn the PS3's fate around.
And of course they didn't. It remains a profit hole in the ground and barely squeaked out second place, while giving up their previous gains in the US and the UK to Microsoft. And the reason they remained in second place is pretty much because Microsoft will never be competitive in Japan.
People always use this post, but they seem to be implying the PS3 isn't a massive business failure.
GAF flips it's shit and overreacts whenever any feminist says anything about video games. Nitpicking gameplay mechanics for thousands upon thousands of posts is okay, but as soon as someone mentions sexism in games, people throw a fit.
1080p/60fps actually matters.
It doesn't, to anyone not on GAF
Of course it was serious. At the time we were in, PS3 was losing every single exclusive it ever had from the PS2 gen, every multiplatform game was superior on 360, PS3 was losing in sales worldwide and the final third party game that they still had to call their own of any major scale was FFXIII. When that was lost, I said the comment, which was about that without that final exclusive, I'm not sure how Sony could turn the PS3's fate around.
And of course they didn't. It remains a profit hole in the ground and barely squeaked out second place, while giving up their previous gains in the US and the UK to Microsoft. And the reason they remained in second place is pretty much because Microsoft will never be competitive in Japan.
People always use this post, but they seem to be implying the PS3 isn't a massive business failure.
Though at the time I suppose it was somewhat valid, depending on one's faith at the time in Sony's first parties.There is no reason left for any one, hardcore or casual, to substantively invest in a PS3.
Meta-post?ITT: We mistake random opinions that we don't agree with for "hyperbole."
ITT: We mistake random opinions that we don't agree with for "hyperbole."
But sony did pretty much turn the PS3 around. yes they lost tons of money but they salvaged it. At the time you made that post though it was like the bombs coming down all around and no where to go.
And yet still the PS3 remains as the hole in the ground that cost Sony every penny of profit they made from PS2, PS1, PSP and every other PlayStation related enterprise.
Sure, they barely managed to squeak out a second place victory worldwide, but I think the admission from Cerny on the PS4 circuit on how many things they did wrong with PS3 and needed to change is at least partial admission that the PS3 was, in large part, a failure - at least in any way a business would measure it (profits). So whatever, MGS4 part notwithstanding, it may be hyperbole, but it's hyperbole with heavy truth in it. >![]()
Gaming technophiles are probably my biggest pet peeve when it comes to the gaming community at large. "No 60fps, no buy". Whatever, dude.
Explain which part of the post you quoted is hyperbole. They did lose all their profits from the PS1, PS2, PSP and every other PlayStation related enterprise thanks to the PS3.
a couple weeks ago there was a thread about developers that had never made a "bad" game.
in that thread, various people called these games "awful" or "bad"
- Left 4 Dead
- Diablo 3
- Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
- Infamous
- Max Payne 3
- Halo: Spartan Assault
- Nintendogs
- Jak X: Combat Racing
- Jak 2
- Jak 3
- Oblivion
- Fallout 3
- Skyrim
- Grand Theft Auto IV
- Modern Warfare 2
- Modern Warfare 3
- Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
- Saints Row 2
- Madworld
- Trauma Center
- Persona 4
- MGS: Peace Walker
- MGS: Portable Ops
- LA Noire
- Dota 2
Explain which part of the post you quoted is hyperbole. They did lose all their profits from the PS1, PS2, PSP and every other PlayStation related enterprise thanks to the PS3.
See, even though my post originally is obviously hyperbole and doesn't ring true in its extremeness, most people just don't like hearing how bad PS3 was for Sony. They don't like to address that, ya know, PS3 was a failure.
Vanquish (and Platinum in general) being the best thing ever.
That The Last of Us is a masterpiece..
It's really down to two perspectives
Did Sony eventually make a platform that overcame how much they lost throughout the first half of the gen? In terms of quality of their game output, I would say yes, as a gamer.
Did Sony eventually turn the PS3 around and salvage it as a business prospect, as a system that had wiped out all its PlayStation profits? The answer to that is unequivocally no.
My comment was a little about both, and like I said it was definitely hyperbole. I appreciate that you can understand the time and place it happened. But I still feel there are heavy truths within the statement, if you can follow me for a sec![]()
"Diablo 3/Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance/Bioshock Infinite/Portal 2/The Last of Us/Metal Gear Solid 3/Metal Gear Solid 4 are good games."
Of course it was serious. At the time we were in, PS3 was losing every single exclusive it ever had from the PS2 gen, every multiplatform game was superior on 360, PS3 was losing in sales worldwide and the final third party game that they still had to call their own of any major scale was FFXIII. When that was lost, I said the comment, which was about that without that final exclusive, I'm not sure how Sony could turn the PS3's fate around.
And of course they didn't. It remains a profit hole in the ground and barely squeaked out second place, while giving up their previous gains in the US and the UK to Microsoft. And the reason they remained in second place is pretty much because Microsoft will never be competitive in Japan.
People always use this post, but they seem to be implying the PS3 isn't a massive business failure.