mordecaii83
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I like my G910, it feels really good. I'm not exactly a mechanical keyboard expert though.
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I like my G910, it feels really good. I'm not exactly a mechanical keyboard expert though.
Yup, I sold my G710+ for G710. Want to buy my G710? I just bought Duckys lol
Get the G610 or G810, depending on your preference. I recommend the 610 in Browns. The keyboard themselves are great. Feels sturdy, solid media keys, looks great, and performs great.
Paasei
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So I've been looking around a little and figured out how to reprogram those 4 extra keys on a Ducky keyboard.
You need to download a little tool called AutoHotkey, which can be found here: https://www.autohotkey.com
During the installation, make sure you enable the drag and drop feature to make it really easy. Especially if you are not familiar with making scripts, just like me. You might also want to choose UNICODE over ANSI during the installation, as it supports more languages/alphabets.
Once all that is done, you'll be able to make a script for this program. This is done by: right click on your desktop -> New -> AutoHotkey Script.
Give it a name of your choosing and afterwards right click and select edit script. Now copy paste one, or all, of these functions inside it and save the file:
Code:
SC121::Media_Stop
sc16b::Media_Prev
sc16c::Media_Play_Pause
sc132::Media_NextHere you can see what each of these "SC" keys represent:
Code:
SC121 = Calcalutor Key
sc16b = PC Key
sc16c = E-mail Key
sc132 = Home Keyhttps://linustechtips.com/main/topic/80818-ducky-shine-3-keyboards/
https://autohotkey.com/docs/Tutorial.htm
You should also be able to do this by creating the right registry files and save it in there, but I am not too sure how that works (yet), or if there are any major differences etc.
Looks like all you need to do now is finding that 1 keycap to replace it with =)
Nah but thanks anyway lol. Just went out and bought Corsair K70 which seems to be the only reasonable MX Blue keyboard with a Nordic layout currently sold in Finland. I would LOVE a Ducky Shine 5 with blue switches, but it looks like the one with Nordic layout isn't being made anymore or something.
e: after a 5 minute test this feels amazing. I can already say that I'm never going back to brown switches.
Looks a lot better irl than it does in pictures too
I bought G610 a week ago, it's quite good. I wouldn't pay MSRP for it but it's on sale for quite a bit lower than that everywhere now, it's not worth 120 bucks, you can buy much better keyboards for that money but for 80-90, it's really good. Logitech G software is really good too unlike everyone else's.
The keyboard looks and feels very nice and premium. Even though it's all plastic it's quite heavy. I'm not sure how it compares with blackwidow, never used one, not a big fan of razer product, I doubt it's worse.
Awesome thanks!
TerryLee81
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That's what took me a while to figure out. Now I think it's an awesome keyboard.
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Deleted member 325805
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Are there any mechanical keyboards without all the fiddly extra buttons and keys? My current keyboard has really big keys which I love, but these days all I see are extra keys everywhere which means smaller keys in general.
I'm not sure about the G810, but on the G610 the pattern with Light+5 I think (where you press a key and it explodes out of the key) is not an option in the Logitech software. Weirdest thing IMO.
Mechanical keyboards generally have the same size keycaps all around, the board just becomes wider. Do you mean the macro keys or do you mean numpad? You can find keyboards without the arrows/numpad by searching for TKL (tenkeyless). Look at the Logitech G610/810, Ducky One brand, WASD brand to start. Those are all very plain looking
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Going for this colour combo now
Oh this looks nice, what is it? Can you even see the LEDs since it looks like the letter is not clear? nvm you edited lol
Absolutely. You would have to test it out to see which one feels the best to you. I would recommend trying out ones with Cherry MX blues or reds. BestBuys carry both, so you can try and return
By worth it, what do you mean?
No it's probably not going to raise your WPM that much. Yes it probably will make your typing more enjoyable, depending on what switch you get.
Cherry MX Blues are my favorite for typing, but they are very loud. They have a satisfying bump that you can feel as you hit the actuation point, and then a loud click as part of the switch drops.
Browns have a smaller bump than the Blues but are much more quiet. A lot of people like them.
Clears have a bigger bump than the browns, and a stiffer spring.
Reds are light linear switches and I am not a fan of them for typing at all. I don't feel linear switches offer anything particularly satisfying, and the reds are very sensitive. The heavier Black switches I think are better, but still not a fan of linear switches.
You can get a switch testing board to see which ones you like. Once you know, you can decide on a keyboard.
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Also get a switch tester. I have one of these and love it, but there are cheaper alternatives out there.
The Ducky One doesn't have pre-set function/media keys. You need to program it yourself. It's quite an annoying process the way it's designed.
I have mute, vol up + down, previous, play, next mapped to the cluster of keys above the arrows.
In the manual it says you can't map anything to the F keys which might be a setback
AlimNassor
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It's cheap for a reason though. Don't go in expecting it to match a $100+ KB. Biggest issue is you have to have the backlight on or else you can't see any of the letters/numbers.
I personally wouldn't recommend that. You need to get a feel for the whole keyboard and actually type on it. It took me weeks to decide even when I had full keyboards. I wouldn't be satisfied with just a few keys to play around with.
The Ducky One has volume keys above the numpad from what I can see in the pictures. That's all I need. And I am going to write a script to hotkey the calc button into a play/pause key.
The LEDs don't light up the keys, just nice led skirt around the keys. Mine is Bluetooth so I tend not to use the LEDs.
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While I agree that getting the feel of a full keyboard helps significantly, having a switch tester at least gets you familiar with the different types that are out there. It's meant as a sampler, and functions well for that purpose.
IcyRhythms
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What do the Razer keys feel like?
Blackwidow X Chroma Tournament edition and full size Chroma
Blackwidow X Chroma Tournament edition and full size Chroma
RAZER BLACKWIDOW X TOURNAMENT EDITION
has cherry mx blues and a standard layout.
no backlight tho.
Spiral Insanity
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Is it recommend to get a leather palm rest like this one? http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,palm_rests&pid=hm_prlb
Currently typing on a full size Realforce keyboard.
Currently typing on a full size Realforce keyboard.
adamantypants
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Mechanical keyboards are mostly for the tactile feel of the actual keys. If you're doing a lot of programming and writing (typing) and not so much gaming, I'd honestly point you in the direction of an ergonomic keyboard before I point you toward a mechanical one. You can also do an ergonomic mechanical keyboard but those are even pricier.
Half-ergonomic like Logitech Wave or Microsoft Ergo Sculpt, or actual ergonomic keyboards? Because most of the latter are mechanical, aren't they? (besides Typematrix, but I don't know if it's ergonomic or not)
IcyRhythms
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Right on. I'm asking about the Chroma version of that one, though.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CVOLFUG/?tag=neogaf0e-20
On that page it says:
Of course we know the bolded is a bunch of horse shit. I'm just curious if anyone ever used the Tournamant Edition or the full size Chroma and could explain how Razer's keys feel in comparison to Cherry MX.
Soodanim
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I've just had my first mechanical delivered. I went for the Ducky One TKL after not doing a lot of research but seeing good reviews and things "Why not".
I went for red switches as I don't tend to do a lot of typing (although all I've done since I've got it is 2 minutes in HL1 and mostly web browsing). I'd be happy to keep this, but I'm not sure if I'd be happier with difference switches. I didn't want to spend £10+ on a tester, it seemed far too much for something I'd use for 5 minutes and never touch again. I might just get some o-rings (as this is louder than I thought Reds would be, I guess I should have looked at some YouTube videos first.
I just don't know whether I'd be better of with blacks or browns instead. Some people say o-rings make typing feel better, so that could potentially make things good enough, but I dunno. Reds are really sensitive though, that's a little surprising. I know I'd never be able to use blues though.
I'm not used to things going like this. This is a rare occasion where I've jumped in perhaps prematurely and am not feeling buyer's remorse.
I went for red switches as I don't tend to do a lot of typing (although all I've done since I've got it is 2 minutes in HL1 and mostly web browsing). I'd be happy to keep this, but I'm not sure if I'd be happier with difference switches. I didn't want to spend £10+ on a tester, it seemed far too much for something I'd use for 5 minutes and never touch again. I might just get some o-rings (as this is louder than I thought Reds would be, I guess I should have looked at some YouTube videos first.
I just don't know whether I'd be better of with blacks or browns instead. Some people say o-rings make typing feel better, so that could potentially make things good enough, but I dunno. Reds are really sensitive though, that's a little surprising. I know I'd never be able to use blues though.
I'm not used to things going like this. This is a rare occasion where I've jumped in perhaps prematurely and am not feeling buyer's remorse.
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I was actually looking at the same one you were, but I didn't get it, or any other one, because I keep hearing that palm/wrist rests apparently are bad enough for your wrists that they help promote carpel tunnel, because of the additional pressure, so I've decided to avoid them.
If anyone can offer other thoughts on this, that'd be great.
O rings will help with the sound. How do you feel about the linear feel of it though? How it just sinks down with no resistance? If you prefer some feel to it, the browns might be the way to go, although they are a bit louder.
The reds are mostly loud because you are pushing it too hard because you're not used to it, and it's hitting the bottom of the keyboard. Once you get used to it it should be better. That said, I was in the same situation and ended up going browns. Buyer's remorse is a big problem with mechanical keyboards. You need to get the switch that you love. Don't settle.
Soodanim
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Thanks for the reply.
To give my most recent thoughts on it, I left the PC for an hour for dinner and came back to the middle of my paused game. Getting back into it felt right pretty quickly, and I think I would probably be happy with O rings. I think it's a safe assumption that I'd enjoy typing on browns more than I do on reds, but I chose reds because this is primarily a gaming PC. The only non-gaming thing I do is come here on GAF, for the most part. Even as I type this post I'm getting used to typing on it, and I think I'll be fine with it. I think I'm already getting better with the pressure required. TKL is nice too, although I'm just now realising how much I relied on the numpad enter key!
I still think it's strange that I dropped £95 on a keyboard I wasn't 100% sure about at first and don't have any buyer's remorse. I've been a victim more than a few times, even with things I'm now fine with.
I just hope I don't end up going the same route as in the headphone thread - after a month I wanted to try out a bunch more headphones than the one I bought and I had to resist the urge!
Edit: Are there any recommended O rings? I'm in the UK if that makes a difference.
shiftplusone
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iirc from what my doctor told me, wrists=bad, palms=fine
just keep your wrists off of it and you should be okay. I have to use one or my carpal tunnel flares up worse than normal
Astral/H3X
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If price is no object, there's the Ergodox series, which are fully programmable split board mechanical keyboards. I'm picking one up for a typing heavy job I'm going to, and I know I'll appreciate the programmability.
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Good point, thanks!
Das Keyboard 5Q Kickstarter ends in a few hours for those interested.
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If you are comfortable with it that's all that matters
Orings are orings I think. I would just go for the highest rated one on Amazon personally, but I don't know anything. What matters is the thickness. You need to get one that is right for you and how much you want to shorten your key's travel time. Since reds are so light I would think it's the thinnest one possible
BIGWORM
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Hey all. So I'm currently on a Black Widows Stealth 2013, and I feel like the clickity clack has dulled down significantly over the 2 and a half years I've had it (pre-owned, even). I'm looking to replace it with a bit of an upgrade. I'm REALLY missing backlit keys right now, and have been since I've had this one. I'm gonna be with a budget of ~$100-$150 when I look to get a new one. I don't even know what kind of switches are in this keyboard, and if they're dull by design or not.
I miss the clickity clack of it lol. Any suggestions? Do the keyboards on MK come with software comparable to Razer's? I don't really HAVE to have accompanying software, though. Just looking for any options/opinions. Thanks.
I miss the clickity clack of it lol. Any suggestions? Do the keyboards on MK come with software comparable to Razer's? I don't really HAVE to have accompanying software, though. Just looking for any options/opinions. Thanks.
Astral/H3X
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Eehhhh there's some different "hardness" ratings of them, but I think for the most part anyone who would end up caring is already going to know which they want. IIRC its a pretty slight difference.
Astral/H3X
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Sorry for double post, but...
You say you had a Stealth, which use Browns (though I think Razer use their own colors, I think Orange and Green, but stealth lines up with Browns, and the regular lines up with Blues). If you wanna go MAXIMUM CLACK you can go for a keyboard with Blues. They'll have a more defined bump and a louder click. Keep in mind this may annoy those around you in office/living room/voice chat situation.
As far as software, *most* keyboards avoid software altogether. There are some hardcore fully programmable keyboards, where you can on a firmware level change what each key does, but for the most part I believe that on keyboard key combos to change settings is more popular. If you want the software side, your best bet is a "gaming" keyboard, ie Roccat, Logitech, or Razer.
Unless you go for something exotic, $150 should easily cover just about any keyboard out there. I believe most quality ones start around $70-80, and then go up to around $150 before you get some enthusiast stuff.
Nah. Rebranded Khail switches. Greens perform similar to blue MX switches and Orange performs like browns. Slightly retuned for lower actuation I think. What is "quiet" is subjective, but they are really only quiet if you don't bottom out and touch type.
BIGWORM
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Thank you. Honestly, I never touch the Razer software unless I get an annoying software update notification that doesn't go away. I never used the customizable M keys that are on the side as well. On the major manufacturer side, what's a good upgrade to the Black Widow Stealth I'm using right now, for curiosity sake?
Some of Corsair Keyboards are very simple layout. The only extra buttons are at the very top for Keyboard lighting profiles.
Ampersands
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I recently bought a Ducky Zero and am just waiting for it to come in the mail. Did I make a good choice for an entry level mechanical keyboard?
I went with browns because I'll be typing and gaming and the noise from blue would be an issue. The Ducky Shines look like they just add fancy LEDs and extra keys so I decided not to splurge for that but did I miss out on build quality? I was also planning on getting a K70 before but I couldn't find one with browns that wasn't selling at full price. I've had good experiences with Corsair but the build quality between Corsair and Ducky should be about on par, right?
I went with browns because I'll be typing and gaming and the noise from blue would be an issue. The Ducky Shines look like they just add fancy LEDs and extra keys so I decided not to splurge for that but did I miss out on build quality? I was also planning on getting a K70 before but I couldn't find one with browns that wasn't selling at full price. I've had good experiences with Corsair but the build quality between Corsair and Ducky should be about on par, right?
I will always recommend my Logitech G610 if you want to go with a major manufacturer. It's like 90 on Amazon, comes in brown switches, and looks great
I just ordered the exact same keyboard. After tons of research I found that the Ducky One is the same build quality as the Shine and better than Corsair. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. Can't wait until thursday. The One is not their budget board or anything.
Astral/H3X
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If you don't use the Macro keys or the gaming software, I'd definitely shoot for a "mainstream" keyboard, as usually you'll get a bit better quality for the same price.
That being said, I've heard that the Corsair keyboards are really good, and I really like the Ducky keyboard I have. It's also kinda hard to go wrong, as long as you pick a keyboard that matches what you want. Most mechanical keyboards are already going to be of a good quality, so it's more about matching what you need.
Main things to consider would be form factor (fullsize/tenkeyless/60%), key switch (Red brown blue black), media keys, and backlighting. Past that pretty hard to mess it up.
snap this looks amazing
Hi everyone, did some reading of the OP links and I think I'm in the market for a Red or Black switch keyboard. I will mainly be using it to game - specifically, WOW and DOTA (or these are going to be the most keyboard-heavy anyway). I also think I type pretty solidly - I feel like I'm pounding on the cheap $20 keyboard I'm using currently and my typing is pretty loud.
I'd also like one that has some cool LED lighting if the price is right - what are considered the go-to brands/models?
I'd also like one that has some cool LED lighting if the price is right - what are considered the go-to brands/models?
By cool LED do you mean with different colors or a single color?
Either one. All things being equal, I'd probably prefer different colors, but I imagine that would be more expensive, so I'd have to make a decision weighing that against the price.
Ampersands
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So... my keyboard came in with 4 broken keys. That's what I get for ordering used I guess. But there is a bright side. Seller refunded the purchase and said to just keep it.
So... how do I replace switches? I've got a Ducky Zero with Cherry Browns. Do I need to solder? I know how but I don't have any equipment near me. Could I just take it to a shop or
and have them fix it for me?
So... how do I replace switches? I've got a Ducky Zero with Cherry Browns. Do I need to solder? I know how but I don't have any equipment near me. Could I just take it to a shop or
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