Aren't Rosewill's keyboards an exception, though? I was under the impression that some of them were literally "factory second" Filcos, made by the exact same OEM and resold under the Rosewill name with minimal changes.
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Aren't Rosewill's keyboards an exception, though? I was under the impression that some of them were literally "factory second" Filcos, made by the exact same OEM and resold under the Rosewill name with minimal changes.
My Rosewill board is built like a tank. It's extremely solid and well-constructed. Based on the concerns I had seen raised on forums about the USB port, I opened it up, thinking to either reflow the solder joints or reinforce it with epoxy, but after examining it from the inside, I deemed it unnecessary.
I can see how having the keyboard in a position where you are constantly yanking on the USB cable could torque the pins joining the port to the daughter board, but for someone who is just going to leave their keyboard in place at their computer, the design seems fine.
I can see how having the keyboard in a position where you are constantly yanking on the USB cable could torque the pins joining the port to the daughter board, but for someone who is just going to leave their keyboard in place at their computer, the design seems fine.
Rosewill makes very few products. They just put their name on stuff from the OEMs that everyone else uses too.
Their keyboards are made by the same people who make Filcos and CM QuickFire keyboards.
I have it in red switches. It's a great board. The only complaints I can come up with is the branding (it's excessive) and the fact that only half of it is backlit (the gaming part is backlit so it's not that bad). Other than that it's been a brilliant board. Especially for the price. It was cheaper than every other mech keyboard I could find by a solid margin.
It's built pretty solidly and once you get the stubborn USB cable plugged in (gotta push hard), it's really in there.
Yes. You can do it off/on just the ASDW/on the full "gaming" set. Also has different intensities.
The backlighting is really well done. Just wish it was the whole keyboard. But I knew that going in. For the price it's really hard to beat.
If I had a more flexible budget when I bought the Quickfre Pro I'd go with the Corsair K65. That's everything I want in a mech keyboard. It's twice the price though.
Burgess_101
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Guys I need suggestions. What is a good blue switch ten keyless keyboard. I live in the Uk so sadly cm storm is out of the question. It also must have a tall enter key. Budget is no more than £80.
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Got my WASD today! This is going to take some getting used to, for sure. I know I'm bottoming out the keys, based on years and years of using membrane keyboards. Even though my brain knows I don't have to any more, my body does it anyway.
I'm surprised by how light these Browns are, I was expecting them to be a bit heavier on the stiffness. I found some old terminal keyboards at work that use what appear to be Cherry MX Blacks, but they're a hell of a lot stiffer than these, even though it should be only by a small percentage.
Offhand, I would say my typing feels a bit slower, but it does feel smoother. I imagine my speed is probably actually about the same, but I haven't run any typing tests yet.
Got to say, the build quality of the keyboard is excellent. This is a hell of a device, and I can see this thing lasting quite a while. And, I can update it any time I want with custom keys (right now I got it in "boring ol' black").
I'm surprised by how light these Browns are, I was expecting them to be a bit heavier on the stiffness. I found some old terminal keyboards at work that use what appear to be Cherry MX Blacks, but they're a hell of a lot stiffer than these, even though it should be only by a small percentage.
Offhand, I would say my typing feels a bit slower, but it does feel smoother. I imagine my speed is probably actually about the same, but I haven't run any typing tests yet.
Got to say, the build quality of the keyboard is excellent. This is a hell of a device, and I can see this thing lasting quite a while. And, I can update it any time I want with custom keys (right now I got it in "boring ol' black").
ComputerMKII
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I couldn't find an easy way to repair my Zowie Celeritas so I've ordered a Qpad MK-80. I'm a PC gamer but I type text much more than I play FPSes so I'm looking forward to using its Cherry MX Blue mechanics.
Also, it's backlit, has a PS/2 connector by default (no need for a PS/2-USB converter), a wrist rest and Jack + USB ports.
Does anyone own that keyboard? What do you think about it?
Also, it's backlit, has a PS/2 connector by default (no need for a PS/2-USB converter), a wrist rest and Jack + USB ports.
Does anyone own that keyboard? What do you think about it?
Finally got my K95 (yesterday). Love it. One of the best hardware purchases I've made in a while. Feels so good... I mean, I don't have that much experience with switches, but I'd rather not be a switch snob. Just the upgrade from membrane to mechanical is a big and good enough jump to satisfy.
That said, I have found myself resting on the W key a bit too heavily - often tripping that key by mistake. I'll get used to it.
Also, I already miss my LCD screen from my Logitech G510... but the feel of the keys and the overall sleekness of the design is a more than sufficient trade up from the LCD screen.
I wasn't a believer before... but I am now!
It's one of the more effective things you can spend your money on; given how much contact time we make with our keyboards.
That said, I have found myself resting on the W key a bit too heavily - often tripping that key by mistake. I'll get used to it.
Also, I already miss my LCD screen from my Logitech G510... but the feel of the keys and the overall sleekness of the design is a more than sufficient trade up from the LCD screen.
I wasn't a believer before... but I am now!
It's one of the more effective things you can spend your money on; given how much contact time we make with our keyboards.
I'll be damned.
Rickenslacker
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Told you so.
ComputerMKII
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I've just switched from Cherry MX Browns to Cherry MX Blues and I didn't expect the difference on pressure/force to be so important. It doesn't seem like much on paper but I find the Blue keys kinda hard to type with.
Do you feel that way too or is it just my imagination?
Do you feel that way too or is it just my imagination?
ComputerMKII
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Actually, whenever I type, I either type so lightly that the key isn't even activated or I type so hard I completely bottom out.
Should I return my keyboard and replace it with new mechanics? Which ones (Reds, maybe?)?
Should I return my keyboard and replace it with new mechanics? Which ones (Reds, maybe?)?
Based on that descriptions reds would be a better choice for you, but you'll still be bottoming out of course.
ComputerMKII
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Astral/H3X
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That keyboard is too damn sexy.
Junior Mint
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Sweet jesus, Corsair makes it with blue switches now. Sold.
Are the Blues heavier or lighter than the Browns? I'm using Browns here.
Koroviev
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They are stiffer.
ComputerMKII
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Heavier. I'm back to my old Zowie Celeritas (with Browns) and it's definitely easier to use. However, I'm not a fan of tactile feedback so that's why I'd like a keyboard with Cherry MX Reds. It's just as light (at least on paper) but it's linear.
I'm looking into a new keyboard as my g15's tab key is busted. I can type 115wpm and I do data entry as a job with this keyboard - would a mechanical keyboard help any? I can't recall any stores having them out for display to try, so figured I'd be best to ask here and see if anyone else was in my situation.
And if so, which kind since there's so many would you recommend for data entry (and gaming of course, but it's really moreso for data entry).
And if so, which kind since there's so many would you recommend for data entry (and gaming of course, but it's really moreso for data entry).
ComputerMKII
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Try the different kinds of mechanics before buying. I type words more than I play FPSes yet I don't like Cherry MX Blues. It's a matter of personal preference.
Heavy's Sandvich
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Anyone able to recommend a keyboard, preferably cherry blue switches, for around £50?
Which one do you prefer? I don't think Best Buy or Staples have them out for display, so I haven't figured out where to try one out yet. I've noticed there aren't many LCD displays like the g15 on mech keyboards, though - guess I'll have to get used to not having that.
ComputerMKII
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I've only tried Blues and Browns so far and I type very lightly (due to using laptop keyboards for many years). I'm comfortable with Browns (but I need to replace my keyboard anyway so I'm gonna switch to Reds) but I hate Blues. Since Blacks are even more stiff, I suppsoe I wouldn't like them either.
Most 'gaming' keyboards will have Reds or Blacks. By the way, Blues are noisy/clicky, which may be an pro or a con depending on what you're looking for.
Lupin3
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Personally I like black, not as noisy as reds. I tend to rest my fingers on the keys with some force, which make blacks a perfect fit. But they are all good in their own way.
The only ones I didn't really like are the brown ones. Felt like dirty reds when typing, like there was grain or something stuck inside. It was a Tesoro Durandal. Maybe they take some time getting used to.
Now I'm using a CM Storm Trigger (MX Black). The build quality is ridiculous. Well worth your money and then some. Highly recommended.
The only ones I didn't really like are the brown ones. Felt like dirty reds when typing, like there was grain or something stuck inside. It was a Tesoro Durandal. Maybe they take some time getting used to.
Now I'm using a CM Storm Trigger (MX Black). The build quality is ridiculous. Well worth your money and then some. Highly recommended.
I use a CM Storm Quick Fire Pro with Reds at the moment but in summer when I start my Masters I'll have my own workstation and I feel like pissing off the entire room with a nice new keyboard with browns.
In the UK the choice is somewhat limited, I feel at the moment that I'm just going to end up with a CM Storm QFR but I'd love something a bit more fancy looking.
I'd like to go tenkeyless for this one, can't decide If i want the arrow keys or not but 10keyless at least.
Looking at:
I think at the moment I'm swayed towards the Filco, anyone got any experience with it? I'd love to get hold of it and do this to it:
In the UK the choice is somewhat limited, I feel at the moment that I'm just going to end up with a CM Storm QFR but I'd love something a bit more fancy looking.
I'd like to go tenkeyless for this one, can't decide If i want the arrow keys or not but 10keyless at least.
Looking at:
- CM Storm QFR
- Filco Majestouch Ninja (10KL)
- KBT Pure/Race
I think at the moment I'm swayed towards the Filco, anyone got any experience with it? I'd love to get hold of it and do this to it:
(Found on 4chan)
Thanks. I know the numbers, but it's good to get actual input from people that have used both. The only Cherry switches I've ever used are the Browns that are in this keyboard I'm typing on, and what I think may be Blacks on some old terminal keyboards at work. One of the guys at work has a keyboard at his workstation with Alps keys, that feel more or less like the Browns I'm using, but a little stiffer.
As for feedback.. I think it really depends on what you're doing with them. When I'm typing (which is mainly what I bought this keyboard for), I tend to bottom out every keystroke anyway, so you'd think that it wouldn't matter. But I like having that extra "bump" in the middle.. it just feels more "mechanical", like the key is really doing something.
I really like the Browns for gaming, though.. I've found that I don't actually press the keys all the way down, I just go until I feel the bump, and the game responds. It's a much softer touch, but I think it would be a lot harder to do with a linear key switch without being able to feel the actuation point.
Filco is one of the best Cherry switch 'board makers out there. If the price does not bother you I think it is a very good choice.
Personally if you have not used anything but full size 'boards up to now, I would move to a tenkeyless before moving to a compact like the Poker/Pure/Race. It's a much harder adjustment to make on top of learning how to efficiently numrow. Even though my Poker has been on my desk for a long time now I still sort of feel like the standard tenkeyless format is ideal.
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I don't get it, my new-ish mechanical keyboard (Steelseries) is starting with the same crap as my old one did - just pressing the backspace button once often deletes 4-10 letters at once, as if it's pressed multiple times or hold down.
On my last one (Steelseries, too) I thought it would be a mechanical defect or something, then more keys did the same shit and soon it was unusable. People told me something was broken in there, maybe water or the PCB broke, and since it was a second hand keyboard I thought that might be right. This keyboard though never had any issues before this started happening and it was brand new.
Dunno, any ideas? Is there a reliable way to clean it to see if dust or ash or whatever settled down in it and causes this?
On my last one (Steelseries, too) I thought it would be a mechanical defect or something, then more keys did the same shit and soon it was unusable. People told me something was broken in there, maybe water or the PCB broke, and since it was a second hand keyboard I thought that might be right. This keyboard though never had any issues before this started happening and it was brand new.
Dunno, any ideas? Is there a reliable way to clean it to see if dust or ash or whatever settled down in it and causes this?
It's chattering... only thing I can recommend is to take the keycap off, push the switch down with something small (like the eraser end of a pencil) then blow some compressed air into the switch.
There is a very convoluted software workaround but it's ultimately a hardware issue.
One step closer to joining the winning red switch team.
aww yeah!!! I knew you had good taste.
What are you comfortable spending?
Not really; $150 doesn't put you in the range of Topres but it does give you pretty much any Cherry switch 'board on the market.
I typically recommend Filco or Leopold for tenkeyless 'boards when it comes to Cherry switches, but these are the kind of 'boards that have near zero "fluff" features; no media keys, backlighting, stuff like that. There's all kinds of Cherry switch 'boards that have this stuff though, so you might just want to do some thinking about what kind of features you think are really important as the field is pretty much open.
Since you're only worried about typing I would recommend getting blue Cherry switches. One of the most common varieties so you have no shortage of stuff to choose from. If you're looking for a no-frills, high quality 'board with blues I'd look at the Filco tenkeyless options (you can get these in the US from Amazon) or Leopold (you can get these from EliteKeyboards).
Yeah I think I'll probably go for the one in the picture there.
I do wish I could find one of those tester sets in the UK somewhere, I like the idea of Browns but it is a big amount to splash out when I already spent ~£80 on this one at christmas. Still, can't say I regret it, gotta love my reds.
Going to get this beauty:
Good grief that looks confusing.
EDIT: While I'm at it, anyone know where I can get keycaps from in the UK/EU? I currently have clear WASD keys, should probably just ask the friend who gave them to me where he got those...
Personally I like black, not as noisy as reds. I tend to rest my fingers on the keys with some force, which make blacks a perfect fit. But they are all good in their own way.
The only ones I didn't really like are the brown ones. Felt like dirty reds when typing, like there was grain or something stuck inside. It was a Tesoro Durandal. Maybe they take some time getting used to.
Now I'm using a CM Storm Trigger (MX Black). The build quality is ridiculous. Well worth your money and then some. Highly recommended.
This is what I have, but with browns. I like it a lot. My only complaint is the lighting modes. WASD + arrow keys mode is useless to me, since I use ESDF in games. A customized lighting mode would have been great.
I've heard mixed stuff, but I think at that price it's hard to go wrong. What keys?
Yoshichan
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thanks man!The TE version of the BlackWidow has browns.
Of all the BlackWidow 'boards, that is the one I would go with if I had to choose. Tenkeyless, no backlighting, better switches for gaming. For that price it would be a good deal.