Wait...Walking Dead? Did anyone ITT actually say this?
Walking Dead pulls off 18Million views (legal, TV only) per episode. I doubt all episodes of the TWD games even sold that combined. What the fuck is wrong with some of you?
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Licensed games more famous than their source material.
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Walking Dead pulls off 18Million views (legal, TV only) per episode. I doubt all episodes of the TWD games even sold that combined. What the fuck is wrong with some of you?
The first movie's adjusted box office total is $250M domestic. The games were nowhere near as popular as the movie.
The Megami Tensei series as a whole.
And add Stalker and Metro to that.
forgeforsaken
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The Darkness? Not sure on that one, the games weren't super popular but neither is the comic.
In fairness, the game is based on the comic, but even that was quite popular itself for years .
Boss Doggie
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Yeah I was talking about how the TMNT example wouldn't hold in the topic even if they use the "comics" argument
Speaking of which, TMNT Smash Up is the only TMNT game that recognizes that it came from the comics.
Neff
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I think in terms of recognition and critical reception relative to its medium, Goldneneye 007 beats out Goldeneye the movie. Goldeneye 007 is arguably one of the most influential and groundbreaking videogames ever made. Goldeneye the movie is simply a fun, slightly formula-shaking movie, ultimately not even one of the better Bonds imo.
Strider? Rolling Thunder?
I like this answer.
Really, though, how about Rogue Trooper?
I can't imagine that many people remember the game, but who knew that it was based on a comic?
Rogue Trooper was one of 2000AD's top strips, but yeah, it's not likely that anyone under the age of 30 and a reader of old British comics will have heard of it.
DiipuSurotu
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This has nothing to do with the topic though.
Just because the game is better doesnt mean its more famous than the movie.
GoldenEye the movie and game are on a very similar level imo. Quick look at wikipedia page tells me it's the third best selling N64 game of all time at over 8 million sold, topped only by Mario 64 and Mario Kart 64, and that the game made around 250 million, quite a feat back then. So while the movie was definitely very popular, the game isn't far behind.
yeah. no
I can name you 10 times more people that dont even know what a "N64" is then people who know Goldenye has a game made based on it.
Some people here are seriously detached from reality. I mean, seriously!
Aaahahahaha. Ha. At people sticking with Goldeneye.
No.
My guess is the general public would not even put the game second if that question was asked.
1. A James Bond Movie.
2. A song by Tina Turner.
3. A video game.
ETA:
Game, wiki-articles in 15 languages.
Movie, wiki-articles in 40 languages.
No.
My guess is the general public would not even put the game second if that question was asked.
1. A James Bond Movie.
2. A song by Tina Turner.
3. A video game.
ETA:
Game, wiki-articles in 15 languages.
Movie, wiki-articles in 40 languages.
It's actually really cool to watch the movie and compare it to the game.
Defo this.
FrontalMonk
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It doesn't technically count because it's not a "licensed" property, but I'd put up the Dynasty Warriors series. On one hand, the source material (Romance of the Three Kingdoms) is a classic in China and I would never say that DW is somehow more popular than RTK in China, but it brought worldwide attention to the series (as evidenced by my own anecdote, after playing DW3, I ended up buying an english translation of the novel and read through the whole damn thing). It also technically doesn't count since it's thousands of years old and thus far beyond anyone having copyright and wanting to "license" it. That said, I still think it deserves a place in the discussion, because I think it totally meets the criteria.
I think the James Bond movies are more famous than the books (I imagine that lots of people doesn't know they exist).
About Goldeneye, think about this:
Everybody that plays the game know that there is a movie - because, you know, James Bond, Pierce Brosnan on the cover, etc.
But there is lots of people (like, my mom) that doesn't know that the game exists.
So... which one is more famous? =P
About Goldeneye, think about this:
Everybody that plays the game know that there is a movie - because, you know, James Bond, Pierce Brosnan on the cover, etc.
But there is lots of people (like, my mom) that doesn't know that the game exists.
So... which one is more famous? =P
Boss Doggie
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Wasn't there a Rot3K game?
well it's more famous because people now don't read comic, because the comic is better than everything
ScatheZombie
Member
Does it count if the source material was another game series if that game series was an entirely different genre and has been basically abandoned by it's creators?
If it does, Warcraft.
If it does, Warcraft.
RoadHazard
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People saying shit like Batman and TMNT are crazy, or just completely out of touch with reality.
The Witcher is a good one.
The Witcher is a good one.
PixyJunket
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The Strider manga was created in tandem with the arcade and NES games, it was a collaborative project.
TheLetdown
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Turok is a great answer to this, but Tony Hawk Pro Skater is by far the most interesting one to me.
My whole world was skateboarding and video games. When it came out, it blew me away, but I was so embedded in that, that it never really occurred to me that people who didn't watch Bones Brigades videos as a rite of passage might not remember his name in the late 90s. The roster on that first one were like an MVP team of some of my favorite (then) current skaters, and we'd bitch endlessly about who was criminally omitted.
Looking it up now... I was 13-14 when that game came out. Oldness intensifies.
My whole world was skateboarding and video games. When it came out, it blew me away, but I was so embedded in that, that it never really occurred to me that people who didn't watch Bones Brigades videos as a rite of passage might not remember his name in the late 90s. The roster on that first one were like an MVP team of some of my favorite (then) current skaters, and we'd bitch endlessly about who was criminally omitted.
Looking it up now... I was 13-14 when that game came out. Oldness intensifies.
Well maybe, but if you sampled a 'random' selection of 65 year old twitchers in the UK they might say it was a duck...
HueyFreeman
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Waaaaaa?
Turtles was fucking all consuming when I was a kid. It actually remains extremely popular as a franchise. The only reason I played the (extremely frustrating) NES entry was cuz tmnt was because of the tv show and movie.
That movie really holds up btw
nkarafo
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The comparison is about "Goldeneye: The game" VS "Goldeneye: The movie". That specific movie only. Not James Bond as a character/franchise.
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DryvBy
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When someone says "Goldeneye" to me, game is the first to pop into my mind.
Not games,
But I would argue that walking dead, batman, game of thrones, etc are actually best known by their source material. Even though the shows and movies are more watched than the source everyone that watches them is generally aware they are comics or books even if they'll never read them.
A lot of this is cultural as well. I tried to import a board game to the North American market and it was just far too expensive. This is when I learned it was based off of a huge fantasy novel series in Germany and the licensor had I to take a cut.
But I would argue that walking dead, batman, game of thrones, etc are actually best known by their source material. Even though the shows and movies are more watched than the source everyone that watches them is generally aware they are comics or books even if they'll never read them.
A lot of this is cultural as well. I tried to import a board game to the North American market and it was just far too expensive. This is when I learned it was based off of a huge fantasy novel series in Germany and the licensor had I to take a cut.
Nightengale
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Whut.
Romance of the Three Kingdoms is huge throughout large parts of Asia, not just China.
Is it daily-reading material? Nope. But the source material's existence has permuted itself deeply across the the cultural bearings of many Chinese communities.
SmokedMeat
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First post nailed it best
Nerdkiller
Membeur
*wakes up and yawns* Hey guy's how's it go-*reads last few pages of people arguing back and fourth on GoldenEye*...oh god. What have I done?
At least no one has said From Russia In Love. That's crazy talk.
I never said that GoldenEye the game was more famous than the Bond franchise itself. Of course the series is going to overshadow the game. I was just referring to one specific movie in the series in that it's arguable that the game is more famous than the movie it's based on.
At least no one has said From Russia In Love. That's crazy talk.
Lol at the Goldeneye suggestion, Goldeneye is one of the best james bond movies, just because it isnt mentioned in a gaming forum, doesnt make if less popular than the video game. Go ahead go to a movie forums to see how popular the Goldeneye video game is.
On a quick look at my job, from the 20 employees in this office Im the only one of the few that plays video game, guess which is more famous here goldeneye the movie or goldeneye video game.
On a quick look at my job, from the 20 employees in this office Im the only one of the few that plays video game, guess which is more famous here goldeneye the movie or goldeneye video game.
Jerry Orbach
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Today, Nobunaga is probably best remembered for having Ambitions.
The second you need to throw in an age qualifier in order for the game to not get completely murdered, then your point is kinda lost. This topic isn't about what game is more famous amongst 20-30 years olds who played video games, and didn't watch movies. It's about what games are more famous then the source material, period. And GoldenEye is a fucking ridiculous suggestion when that is applied to every living person on the planet.
I definitely wouldn't want to bet on the parents of children that eventually ended up on NeoGAF not knowing what an N64 is.
shinra-bansho
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It's really not arguable unless you're essentially limiting the query to people who own/play/follow video games.
The other statement earlier was also relevant, it's likely that most of the people who played GoldenEye were aware of its source material film. The converse is not the case, in general people who know of the existence of the film and/or have seen said film will not universally know that a game even exists.
If you asked 1000 random people what a given property is, what is the most likely response - if they know what it is at all.
If you ask a sample of the population what the Teenaged Mutant Ninja Turtles property was... you're not going to get "video game" as the majority answer. You'll get cartoon show or movie.
The other statement earlier was also relevant, it's likely that most of the people who played GoldenEye were aware of its source material film. The converse is not the case, in general people who know of the existence of the film and/or have seen said film will not universally know that a game even exists.
If you asked 1000 random people what a given property is, what is the most likely response - if they know what it is at all.
If you ask a sample of the population what the Teenaged Mutant Ninja Turtles property was... you're not going to get "video game" as the majority answer. You'll get cartoon show or movie.
Thanks for the explanations. I didn't know that 2000AD comics were primarily known in UK (I don't know anything about them myself), and I actually haven't played the game either.
Certainly the previously mentioned Suikoden (The Water Margin) and Dynasty Warriors (Romance of the Three Kingdoms) -- yes, every man, woman and child in East Asia knows the classical novels, but this is an English forum.
Capcom manga-based games come to mind, too:
UN Squadron (Area 88)
Destiny of an Emperor (Tenchi wo Kurau)
Dynasty Wars (Tenchi wo Kurau, again)
Warriors of Fate (Tenchi wo Kurau -again-)
I'm sure I'm forgetting some.
Arguably Blazing Lasers (GUNHED, a horrific 80s Japanese FX movie).
Capcom manga-based games come to mind, too:
UN Squadron (Area 88)
Destiny of an Emperor (Tenchi wo Kurau)
Dynasty Wars (Tenchi wo Kurau, again)
Warriors of Fate (Tenchi wo Kurau -again-)
I'm sure I'm forgetting some.
Arguably Blazing Lasers (GUNHED, a horrific 80s Japanese FX movie).
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Gungrave.