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http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/africa/features/storyofafrica/9chapter2.shtml
I guess I will put the Cristal(F YOU JAY Z) back till March when I can truly celebrate this jackass being put behind bars.
AKingNamedPaul
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Educated on the exactly what it is that the European man did to them. Not to incite hate, but to see what they once were, and to take away the subconscious view that they are inferior and ugly and stupid. The Asiatic African man was so advanced and did things that even TODAY people don't understand how they did it. They educated the Europeans, and taught them how to bath themselves correctly, and openly shared all of their knowledge.Blackace said:
They had studies of Astronomy and when you become a doctor today you are made to take an oath to a man that is supposedly the "father" of medicine" Hippocrates that you will only use this knowledge to help people and help people no matter what the situation. This man OPENLY said that his teacher was an African and why is there no mention of him when you take this oath? This does not even scratch the surface of the impact the Asiatic African man had on todays sciences and customs.
When you understand that you were once a magnificent people and that the man who came and raped and abused and beat into you that you are less than human for 300 years is a man who doesn't know right from wrong. Why would you cut a mans arms off and fingers off and slice a pregnant womans belly open so that the baby would fall out? This cruelty is something akin to a child who doesn't know right from wrong yet. A man on the earth who doesn't know right from wrong yet. The black people were here for much longer than I'm sure you know, and had time to grow spiritually. When you look at all the people who were taken advantage of you see that they seemed naive, but had actually found the humans true purpose (to a degree.)
I believe that eventually the general consciousness of the world will rise, and eventually we can work towards a human family that treats each other with love, but before you can heal the world completely you have to fix the mind state that the original man is inferior. Once we all look at each other as equals, we can be what the universe created us to be; which is a beautiful creation. I believe that the way things happened were an absolutely necessary lesson for the human race. We haven't yet seen and learned from this huge mistake that is happening right now, but down the line with all of the new ways to communicate, and ways to spread information, the consciousness of the people has to grow.
I am still learning history and gaining information everyday, so I cannot give you the complete answer, but If you can listen with an open mind to Luis Farrakhan and try to see through some of the rituals and see through to the truth, I'm sure you will be enlightened. You have to keep in mind that he has a mission to uplift the black man, and that his actual understanding is much deeper than what he feeds to the immature minds of the black people. If you can completely grasp what he teaches I suggest you listen to Eckhart tolle Who teaches of what humans can eventually become and is not working towards step one like farrakhan.
tl:dr = When black people know their history they will no longer subconsciously hate themselves. America is built on injustice and needs to be rebuilt. Judaism, Islam, Christianity, Buddhism all have common truths, if you can look passed the rituals created by those who have misinterpreted them. Check out farrakhan/Tolle with an open mind.
If this is scatterbrained, and misses any bases I am sorry, but I would love to have a conversation where I can answer questions in a more organized fashion. It is impossible to write the entire truth in one post.
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Lambtron said:
first off, the only reason why it wasn't funny is because prison rape jokes are as old as the sun.
secondly, it's called dark humor for a reason. the comedy troupe stella makes jokes about the holocaust so imagine a square in the audience going "HEY!! WAIT JUST ONE MINUTE THERE!! THAT SHIT REALLY HAPPENED AND YOU'RE GONNA FUCKING *JOKE* ABOUT IT?" i'm reminded of an old bit from george carlin about rape, actually quite fitting to this, about how rape CAN be funny and something about porky pig being raped. anyhow, if you can't joke about something, even with the most abominable of things, then it makes it all the more tragic. the real detriment to society are all the depictions of rape in movies and tv. guys joking about it, especially when a woman's not even involved, is hardly something to get mad about. the ones who say they asked for it or whatever... have you ever even talked to anybody like that? cuz i haven't.
i don't think there's a person on the planet who thinks of rape as trivial. what's trivial are the jokes. there are a lot of dead baby jokes too, you gonna start a committee about that? cuz people really do kill babies y'know. there's even *gasp* dumpster jokes. i can't take it it's so offensive.
and you ask, what if you fucking were a rape victim. and i ask, what concern is it of mine? if you were trying to hide it, you did a shitty job. the most harmless rape joke ever (LITERALLY the most harmless... you might even see a prison rape joke on the disney channel in a couple years) and you take it SO personal. and if it was a cry for help, well, i did you a favor, no?
perfectchaos007
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What the hell happened in this topic?
I'm staying on track here...
So by his sentencing getting delayed a month, The Carter 4 is going to be delayed another month
I'm staying on track here...
Carter IV Wiki said:
So by his sentencing getting delayed a month, The Carter 4 is going to be delayed another month
AKingNamedPaul
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It is more fun to just make fun of Lil Wayne, or make fun of ignorant people, but that habit of looking away from the serious side of things is an anesthesia. We need to seriously look at why they are this way, because as cliche' as it sounds knowledge is such a freedom. There is a reason why entertainment is the main focus of the masses. The system is built to keep you looking at the stars, while your reality is absolutely disgusting.
The people benefiting from your ignorance may have built up wealth, but they are spiritually dead and I believe it is a matter of time before this system is destroyed. I could have just laughed along, and not said anything, but I believe it is my job to try my best to spread information as best as I can, or I am a part of the problem.
The people benefiting from your ignorance may have built up wealth, but they are spiritually dead and I believe it is a matter of time before this system is destroyed. I could have just laughed along, and not said anything, but I believe it is my job to try my best to spread information as best as I can, or I am a part of the problem.
I fully understand, get, embrace, and enjoy dark humor. I joke about lots of "taboo" subjects, but when I do so I'm fully aware of exactly what I'm saying and doing. The thing about the rape "jokes" on this forum (and moreover, the internet, and fuck, society in general) is people saying rape is the joke. It's not a joke.milkyjay20 said:
Rape is an issue that I just don't fine funny under any circumstances. There are others, but I feel that the view of sexual assault in our society makes it way more sensitive to joke about. I agree that there's way too much rape used on TV & in film. I haven't met anyone in person who's said women deserve to be raped (I have a very stringent filter on who I keep company with though), but I've read plenty of stories, accounts, articles, etc. which describe situations in which this happens. To many people, shocking as it may be, a woman being sexually active means she wanted sexual advances from whomever, therefore the sexual assault is not actually assault. It's really fucked up logic, and far too many people subscribe to it.
Now look, a rape joke is a rape joke. Whether it's a joke about "prison rape" (note: it's still rape), or any other fucking kind of rape. Despite the fact that people tend to use the word in far too many circumstances where it isn't applicable (Gamestop's trade in values, gas prices, taxes, red light cameras, et al.), rape is rape is rape is rape.
Honestly, I'm generally fine having a civil discussion about this kind of shit. My anger in my original post was mostly stemming from the fact that this is a relatively common thing on the internet at large, and it always pisses me off. However, the last couple lines of your post make me want to punch a hole in the wall. What concern is it of yours if I was a sexual assault survivor? Jesus fucking Christ. Look, I just think it's common fucking decency to have respect for one another. Have you ever heard of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder? This happens to sexual assault survivors. One of the things that can trigger it? Talking about the incident. Asking me in a half-assed joking fashion if I had been raped is exactly the type of thing that would trigger this type of shit. What fucking concern of it is yours. Grow the fuck up. Think about what you're saying. Have a little fucking concern for the things that have happened to people around you.
Take these fucking things into account, that's all I'm saying. Don't be an asshole. It's an easy slogan to live by.
If you're joking about rape, you're being an asshole.
OJdaKiller
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Birdman is going to miss his sweet kisses.
IrishNinja
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Blackace said:
quoted for truth.
see, wayne's a rapper i woudlnt mind most times if he wasnt treated like captain save-a-song right now. radio down here has me thinking he and drake are the only ones still interested in rapping, and im pretty sure that's not the case. i mean, fuck, youtube has like 10 videos of budden crying in a corner, so i know other dudes are trying to eat.
ClovingWestbrook
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FootNinja said:
Not to go off topic but I assume (and correct me if I am wrong) that when you say "those who have misinterpreted them" you have a particular group in mind? If so, why is it you think that your interpretation that all four of the religions you mentioned have common truths is correct? The first three, yes (if you ignore the obvious differences) but Buddhism? No.
CrushDance
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milkyjay20 said:
What if Wayne was a girl?
AKingNamedPaul
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You are keeping in mind that I said look passed the rituals right? There are plenty of truths that the Buddha taught, that can be found in other religions. The very idea of worshiping the Buddha, which is what people do, goes against what he taught.LovingSteam said:
Out of curiosity what sets the truths of Buddha apart? I cant say I know a ton about Buddhism, but eckhart tolle teaches the truths of it, and none of which seem drastically different than the TRUTHS I've found in other religions.
again I do NOT mean the rituals, I mean the morals behind them.
ClovingWestbrook
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FootNinja said:
I understand what you are saying, however, you are separating the morals from the rituals. Sure, do unto others as you would have them done onto you can be found in Judaism, Islam, Christianity, and Buddhism. However, in Christianity the idea of God coming into flesh to die on behalf of his creation to fulfill justice goes hand in hand with many Christian morals.
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I find FootNinja's comments here interesting.
Tommie Hu$tle
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What the FUCK happened to this thread?
This had potential to be kinda funny. Bah, this sucks bunch of fucking killjoys.
This had potential to be kinda funny. Bah, this sucks bunch of fucking killjoys.
IrishNinja
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Tokubetsu said:
its tragic, too, cause i thought his first 2 "Mood Muzik" mixtapes were really good, and i was hoping slaughterhouse would work out for him. then im seeing videos of him reading hip hop blog lists and taking shots on method man and im thinking...damn, he's as sad as his online warriors are.
if dudes like mos and kweli are big crybaby bitches when not in a recording studio, i hope i never find out.
also, on a side note: im one of the many who dug 50's Get Rich or Die Tryin', then hated most of his works after that. years later, i play Blood on the Sand and he's just awesome for me again, even when he's clearly gotten rich and stopped trying. ive got a theory that a few years from now, weezy f baby is gonna have a 3rd person shooter and between that and whatever the fuck the radio's on about, im gonna long for the kind've cash money shit i normally cant stand right now. its a vicious cycle i see myself in.
AKingNamedPaul
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Keep in mind a lot of the things you find in a bible, or a Qur'an are symbolic. Symbolic and very misinterpreted, according to my understanding. I have plenty to learn about the religions, but the definition of god is tricky. In fact god CAN be defined as knowledge of the universe, so you could take that idea as a human being, being enlightened and the death of that specific human being having an effect on the awakening of others as the root of the statement. The definition of god is separate from the definition of Allah in Islam which would be the creator of all things. My point is that misinterpretations and symbolism leave plenty of room for confusion, but the truths remain.LovingSteam said:
I am about to go to sleep/not proof reading much, so thanks for letting me express my beliefs and questioning me, and taking the road less traveled.
ClovingWestbrook
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FootNinja said:
Its been my pleasure as well. Religion is one of my favorite topics of discussion. If you would like to continue the discussion please feel free to pm me later. Thanks man!
Tokubetsu
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IrishNinja said:
Nah, im the same way. I'm kind of in a 50 Cent renaissance if you will :lol Between all the interviews I've seen of him and how smart he is/how well screwed on his head is...you just have to give him a lot of respect. The dude was giving a huge opportunity and he didn't waste it at all. I never finished Blood on The Sand though...hard was pissing me off so I just sent it back to Gamefly. DJ Whoo Kid was the best partner though :lol
(also, if you couldn't tell by the avatar and the one I had before...I'm a Young Buck fan and a firm believer that he's the best one to come out of the whole G-UNIT shit...Had so much hope for Lloyd Banks.)
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yeah, shit was tricky on hard. i stuck with Banks but i heard Whoo kid was a trip.
ah, had to be one buck fan out there...:lol i just couldnt get into him, glad someone could. never dug yayo but yeah, i had hopes for banks, some of his earlier freestyles were promising, then his album dropped and i barely even remember half of it. that whole camp - Mobb, Em, all of em - i feel like everyone's waiting for them to put out quality like they did, and now everyone's eating and not that interested (again, see 50, snoop, lotta people come to think of it).
but yeah, not sure if its your thing, but did you check out Mood Muzik 2? star wars, 3 sides to a story and a few others tracks stood out for me, even the production was nice. i wasnt one of the 14 kids who bought the Slaughterhouse album so i cant even say what went wrong there.
ah, had to be one buck fan out there...:lol i just couldnt get into him, glad someone could. never dug yayo but yeah, i had hopes for banks, some of his earlier freestyles were promising, then his album dropped and i barely even remember half of it. that whole camp - Mobb, Em, all of em - i feel like everyone's waiting for them to put out quality like they did, and now everyone's eating and not that interested (again, see 50, snoop, lotta people come to think of it).
but yeah, not sure if its your thing, but did you check out Mood Muzik 2? star wars, 3 sides to a story and a few others tracks stood out for me, even the production was nice. i wasnt one of the 14 kids who bought the Slaughterhouse album so i cant even say what went wrong there.
milkyjay20
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lambtron: i applaud your moral diligence. far too many people care not about right or wrong. it's sad that everyone's becoming desensitized, but eh, whatcha gonna do? lol
rape is *the* joke? i don't understand. all taboo jokes are centered around the taboo. i'm not grasping your meaning here. well, it'd be different if lil wayne actually did get raped, and everyone was cracking jokes. i'd be mad right along with you.
it may seem like there's too many people who believe in she had it comin, but that's the internet. the internet makes you think that every man out there is secretly a pedophile and secretly proud of it. all walks of life are on the internet. maybe i have too much faith in the human species, but i believe that the vast majority will take the side of the victim.
i too hate it when people use the word rape like "this is gonna rape my wallet" or whatever. another thing that bothers me is, yet again, the justice system, which is slightly lenient on rapists (not nearly as lenient as pedophiles, which really pisses me off, but that's another story) when they should be getting much more time. armed robbery is a more serious charge than rape and that ain't right.
the last part of my post is insensitive, but is it wrong? what concern is it of anybody's? are you owed a pity party for whatever reason? are people supposed to go aw gee i'm so sorry for you? if you were a rape victim, don't take your misfortunes out on guys having a little harmless fun. they didn't rape you, they just said a rape joke. and following that hypothetical, my "rape victim" comment wouldn't be a slight against me, but against you, for outing yourself and taking it out on the innocent. i didn't bring back bad old memories; you did.
people who say rape jokes are assholes. no. rape jokes are just offensive to you. the thing is, satire has no bounds or limits and that's the natural order of things, for the reasons i spoke of in my last post. if i could think of something that bothers me as much as rape bothers you, it'd be what's going on in africa. yet i'll say a "think of the starving kids" joke from time to time. what pisses me off about it is how the world looks away. jokes aren't the problem; it's that real compassion is completely going away.
btkadams: of course that's not what i'm implying. it's just as serious, but since we're all guys, it should be less offensive. emphasis on should be. i'm not a pc weenie nor are any of my friends, so we make jokes about the other getting raped on the way to the store all the time.
rape is *the* joke? i don't understand. all taboo jokes are centered around the taboo. i'm not grasping your meaning here. well, it'd be different if lil wayne actually did get raped, and everyone was cracking jokes. i'd be mad right along with you.
it may seem like there's too many people who believe in she had it comin, but that's the internet. the internet makes you think that every man out there is secretly a pedophile and secretly proud of it. all walks of life are on the internet. maybe i have too much faith in the human species, but i believe that the vast majority will take the side of the victim.
i too hate it when people use the word rape like "this is gonna rape my wallet" or whatever. another thing that bothers me is, yet again, the justice system, which is slightly lenient on rapists (not nearly as lenient as pedophiles, which really pisses me off, but that's another story) when they should be getting much more time. armed robbery is a more serious charge than rape and that ain't right.
the last part of my post is insensitive, but is it wrong? what concern is it of anybody's? are you owed a pity party for whatever reason? are people supposed to go aw gee i'm so sorry for you? if you were a rape victim, don't take your misfortunes out on guys having a little harmless fun. they didn't rape you, they just said a rape joke. and following that hypothetical, my "rape victim" comment wouldn't be a slight against me, but against you, for outing yourself and taking it out on the innocent. i didn't bring back bad old memories; you did.
people who say rape jokes are assholes. no. rape jokes are just offensive to you. the thing is, satire has no bounds or limits and that's the natural order of things, for the reasons i spoke of in my last post. if i could think of something that bothers me as much as rape bothers you, it'd be what's going on in africa. yet i'll say a "think of the starving kids" joke from time to time. what pisses me off about it is how the world looks away. jokes aren't the problem; it's that real compassion is completely going away.
btkadams: of course that's not what i'm implying. it's just as serious, but since we're all guys, it should be less offensive. emphasis on should be. i'm not a pc weenie nor are any of my friends, so we make jokes about the other getting raped on the way to the store all the time.
Mattlikewhoa
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Lambtron said:
I knew he caught a case again (from the various music videos with people in "Free Gucci" T-shirts on), but how long is he in jail this time?...
Battersea Power Station
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Lil' Wayne's laugh is so crazy. It's like a little kid's. You can't help but be amused when he laughs.
samus i am
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The gun was not Lil' Wayne's, it was actually someone in his entourage's gun. But per usual, since Lil' Wayne is famous and the other guy was not the hip hop police decided to pin the charges on him.
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samus i am said:
Is surrounding yourself by douche bags better then being a douche bag?
Mattlikewhoa
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DrFunk said:
Same...:lol
DangerousMali
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is anyone even watching the live broadcast
im bored with it
im bored with it
perfectchaos007
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DangerousMali said:
oh it's not live anymore. it was at one point but Ustream puts up all previously live feeds after they are done. you can fast forward through it if you want.
Well, Lil' Wayne is, in fact, a sexual assault survivor.milkyjay20 said:
I don't just think it's the internet though, I'm talking about everywhere. It happens far more often than people realize. And a big part of that is the stigma against sexual assault survivors. That they're silenced. It's pretty fucked up.
I'm in agreement with you here. But I think that not taking these jokes seriously helps keep that sorta shit in existence, you know?
I'm too angry to even properly respond to this. Don't blame victims because "it's just a joke." It's hurtful, period. It's not just someone getting bent out of shape. I have no grey area on this.
But I don't think saying "I hope Lil Wayne gets raped in prison" is satire. Like I said I understand humor pretty deeply, and much of what I find very funny toes the line between "hilarious" and "really offensive." People do look away that's for sure, but I think all of this is hand in hand. If these things occurred in a vacuum it might be different, but they do not. It's all a part of our culture, and it's all sickening to me.
Like I said, you can think I'm just uptight or something, but I think this is really. Fucking. Important.
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