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Lily Bergamo (by Suda51) announced for PS4
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GhM game is announced--->Everyone who has liked any previous GhM gets excited--->Game is released--->Some fans love it and some hate it, stating they wish they'd go back to making games like X--->GhM game is announced...
.la1n
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I don't see them tipping any imaginary balance scale. It would be smart for Sega to at least attempt releasing this Yakuza as soon as possible in the west. If for no other reason then to see if they can capture some of the new audience who may not be aware of other entries / want games to play on what will at that time be a fairly small software selection on a new console. As for Suda's game, it could also benefit from the same scenario and certainly seems much more likely to be localized. Quality of either title obviously not part of this equation since we are taking the average consumer not message board frequenters.
I highly doubt it. Their engine has been innovative in it's use of some unique color palettes in SoTD, examples:
Killer is Dead also is incredible in some graphical aspects, especially flames, and explosions, remind me of Wind Waker Gamecube :'(
Ye, two or three of these screens are press shots, but believe me, the effect when playing the game live is beautiful in motion, definitely high-contrast. The PS4 is basically the last step to them achieving less jagged edges with a native Full HD resolution, which I simply can't wait for
According to Suda, the game is a result of GungHo giving him "complete creative freedom".
Depending on how that can be transcribed in Suda terms (i.e is he speaking of "creative freedom" like in Killer7/No More Heroes or is this another Shadows of the Damned/Lollipop Chainsaw), I wonder how willing overseas publishers will be at bringing the game over to a western audience. Especially after Killer Is Dead's performance.
Then again the game is also said to heavily emphasize online play and possibly smartphone integration so that sort of already sounds like an issue.
Depending on how that can be transcribed in Suda terms (i.e is he speaking of "creative freedom" like in Killer7/No More Heroes or is this another Shadows of the Damned/Lollipop Chainsaw), I wonder how willing overseas publishers will be at bringing the game over to a western audience. Especially after Killer Is Dead's performance.
Then again the game is also said to heavily emphasize online play and possibly smartphone integration so that sort of already sounds like an issue.
90TilInfinity
Member
Heavily? Not necessarily.
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/04/0...k-about-grasshopper-manufactures-secret-game/
Another Yakuza game which is sure to do no more than 50,000 units and another sure-fire Suda51 bomb is going to tip the balance in the Great War for Exclusives? I'm not so sure
I mean it's nice they're coming and maybe they'll be great games, but it does not seem like they do much to tip any scales.
It's good to be realists, but I think you guys both might be missing or underplaying that we're still in the early adopter phase of this console cycle. When I said the Great War for Exclusives I was talking about exactly the pissing contest which happens every day for the next couple years here on Neogaf (and elsewhere). And while obviously places like neogaf have a rather indirect connection to demand in the mass market, the big players obviously care enough about the dialog here to get involved with the discussion, from people like Shu Yoshida responding to things posted, to Penello basically making gaf a part of his daily routine, to even Major Nelson signing up, to the astroturfing which I've *heard* happens..
If Japanese games by cult-famous developers weren't a part of the battle plans, Microsoft wouldn't be paying for Swery's next game, would they? And they believe stuff like this is important, I would think, because the early adopters are still casting their votes. Which also neatly explains why no one cares about exclusives like this after the dust is a bit more settled. I could be totally wrong, though.
Also, as you pointed out la1n, beginning of the gen is the best time to attract a new audience. So it seems a bit early to discount every game by every Japanese developer with a small but loyal following in the west these days -- that's getting to be something that describes the majority of Japanese game developers, after all. I remember when I was playing the Korean version of Demon's Souls and the game was widely considered a bomb
Anyway, just some thoughts.
HORRORSHØW
Member
Really digging the art style. Hopefully it journeys west.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
You mean, their artists. Both Shadows of the Damned and Killer is Dead (along with Lollipop Chainsaw) run on Unreal Engine 3. Lily Bergamo will either too run on UE3, or will make use of Grasshopper's licensing of Unreal Engine 4.
Grasshopper does have some of the more inventive assert artists and designers around though.
nelsonroyale
Member
Wat?
With the money GungHo is making from Puzzles and Dragons, I'm sure they can throw a couple million to Suda whenever they want.
I wonder if it's going to get a PC release.
Just a question: do you hate Bergamo as an italian or as a stranger?
I understand some rivalry with other italian subcultures while I just can't understand hate coming from abroad
Paladin CL
Member
IMO all those games are quite mediocre, including no more heroes (released in 360 and Ps3 would be just another game of the bunch).
Grasshoper games interesting in the looks department but the game are quite repetitive and kind of boring. :/
but it's so beautiful according to that image! So...beautiful!
Sentenza
Member
It's a nice little city, yes. Or big town, your pick.
I wouldn't probably call it the nicest place where to live, in Italy, but it's probably in the top 20.
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
Looks really nice, what type of game is it though?
X more often is Killer7.
Atalanta is the name of the football team of the city of Bergamo.
Balotelli is a famous football player from Brescia (a city near Bergamo).
I'm not saying it's an ugly city, what I'm trying to say is that Bergamo has not been kind to me in the past.
Wishmaster92
Member
Has it been stated that the trailer was in-engine or cg?
Thats what I wanna know, it was at a Sony event so of course they will only talk about the PS4 version, we have seen in the past games announced at platform events end up being multiplat.
I would love for Suda 51 to make a game on Nintendo consoles again, I doubt this game will be pushing PS4 hardware.
I guess at TGS we will find out if there is a WiiU version, I doubt it will be an Xbox one version.
http://gematsu.com/2013/09/tokyo-game-show-2013-live-stream-schedule
Official TGS site: tgs.gungho.jp
Live stream links: live stream not announced (but heres the schedule anyway)
September 19
13:00 TV Tokyo Drama Tokyo Toy Box Announcement Press Conference -A presentation for Tokyo Toy Box a drama coming to TV Tokyo this fall.
14:00 Lily Bergamo Special Stage Grasshopper Manufactures PlayStation 4 title Lily Bergamo will debut on stage at TGS.
15:00 Puzzle & Dragons Z Stage Conference New information on Puzzle & Dragons Z, due out for 3DS on December 12.
16:00 Ragnarok Odyssey Ace Stage Conference Latest news and future developments on Ragnarok Odyssey Ace.
Lily Bergamo Interview with Suda 51
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3qDMjZOxxQ
Akira Yamaoka doing the music (Shocking news!).
Will have some sort of online play.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3qDMjZOxxQ
Akira Yamaoka doing the music (Shocking news!).
Will have some sort of online play.
Sephiroth_VII
Member
Those graphics... I think we can pretty much say that next-gen celshaded games will be indistinguishable from actual drawings, if done right. The horsepower certainly seems to be there!
awilliams213
Member
I love the typeface of that logo.
Tizoc
Member
Published by Gung-ho this time it seems.
abstract alien
Member
How the hell does Suda manage to get all of his games over here while we wonder about shit like Xenoblade for months? I'm glad, but I don't understand lol
Black Republican
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Friends in high places
Sickboy007
Member
Good food, good position, cool distinction between the high and low town.
And people there speak with a hilarious dialect.
It's cold as fuck and full of leghisti.
Didn't Xseed say in a recent interview that they were already looking at a PS4 game to localize?
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/08/01/xseed-teases-upcoming-game-announcements-and-future-plans/
Giving Suda's recent relationship with Xseed I wouldn't be surprised.
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/08/01/xseed-teases-upcoming-game-announcements-and-future-plans/
Giving Suda's recent relationship with Xseed I wouldn't be surprised.
SolidSnakex
Member
Well, the above article mentions that Gung Ho registered Lily in the US. I'm guessing that Xseed was referring to Natural Doctrine.
GungHo Online Entertainment is more of a developer than publisher in the west. They acquired Grasshopper Manufacture in January which is probably why the trademark comes from them.
Coincidentally, a lot of GungHo's games have been handled by Xseed in the past when it comes to localization.
viveks86
Gold Member
Awesome! Now I can stop worrying about the 0.01% probability that it wouldn't have made it to the US!
So does Tharja.
LMAO are you serios?
Those consoles wont do shit in the west.
Not that Sony needs any help from those games aka exclusives