Vawn
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Maybe 8-bit, 16-bit cartridges. Go play modern cartridge games such as Switch or Vita. Load times are as bad there as anywhere else.
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Load times as we know them are going away. We are not appreciating this enough.
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Maybe 8-bit, 16-bit cartridges. Go play modern cartridge games such as Switch or Vita. Load times are as bad there as anywhere else.
Farawayfromhell
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For those who are old like me and have tried the experience of the cassettes for Commodore 64 everyhing is very fast.
Loading times don't scare me at all.
Loading times don't scare me at all.
Skelterz
Member
Maybe your right about "load times" specifically on all systems but the download times are truly an issue for me I don't mind a 20-30 second wait I'll Go for a piss or get a drink or something but going to a store and buying a game and having to wait hrs upon hrs For it to download man it's uncool and frankly a hell of a lot worse than load times.
Also I will say this is more a poor optimisation issue on the dev's side but you'd assume the console makers would have more stringent quality control look at call of duty MW it's well over 200GB by this point sekiro for example is like 30-40GB? Makes no
Sense at least on switch I pop a cart in and I'm away.
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Imagine GTAV the really long loading screen showing clouds is the most annoying thing about that game. Just waiting around.
Vawn
Banned
It isn't like every generation since PS2 started with nearly no load times and got worse. Every generation had lengthy load times the entire generation.
Go watch Ratchet and Clank again. Games shouldn't be required to load more that amount of stuff so many times. The load time is short enough you don't even have time to set your controller down before you're back into combat in a different world.
Developers will really have to screw up to have any sort of lengthy load times on a PS5.
Skelterz
Member
Load times in general aren't a massive hinderance it's more the long downloads you have to go through when you stick a disc in, obviously If load times vanish yeah I'd be happy but if I had to choose I'd keep load times to get rid of long installs lol.
Vawn
Banned
I definitely wouldn't, as that's a one time thing. I care about what stops me playing the game when I'm actually gaming.
But, luckily for both of us, PS5 has addressed install times as well.
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Vawn
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Well, I guess it's a double edge sword. Seems like a lot here were only able to stay productive in life by doing stuff while their games were loading.
Production among gamers is about to plummet. Wives will be angrier than ever!
Sethbacca
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I dunno man. They still make a pretty big difference to me now. I've barely touched GTA or RDR2 because when I get time to play I want to be up and playing as quickly as possible without waiting 5 minutes to just get to the start screen. I'll be more likely to play these games next gen. I'm probably a minority with this opinion though.
Retro_Stew
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The best (worst) one :
Retro_Stew
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PleaseWaitStation4
Banned
Depends what's being loaded. If I get 0 loading time to play a furries game, then the tech is wasted.Seriously, this is a big deal. Load times have been an annoyance since disc-based gaming came on the scene.
To me, loading screens are one of the worst parts of the entire hobby of video games. They kill the pacing. They're annoying. And they've gotten overlooked generation after generation in order to push prettier graphics.
It seems to be all changing, finally. Load times may still technically exists, but when you go from load times that give you enough time to make a sandwich to load times where you don't really have time to set your controller down and pick it back up, it is pretty exciting.
I realize this is the Internet, and we'd rather complain than appreciate things, but we really should give more attention to this aspect of the new generation.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Loading times were so bad this gen. It's pretty good on PC, if you're one of the rare PC gamers who isn't using a 15 year old 5400rpm HDD. I was playing C&C Remastered and it was like playing off a cartridge, great stuff.
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Skelterz
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Let's hope so man I really hope they've nailed it looking forward to seeing it in action.I definitely wouldn't, as that's a one time thing. I care about what stops me playing the game when I'm actually gaming.
But, luckily for both of us, PS5 has addressed install times as well.
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JeloSWE
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I love arcade style type of game. Just imagine popping in a quarter and then having to wait for a 5 min of loading and navigation before getting to play the game... The producer would go bankrupt haha. My life time is finite, I REALLY don't have time for filler plots in TV/Anime shows or lengthy Loading/Respawning in games.
Nickolaidas
Banned
Pretty sure playing those on a ps5 will be with much faster load times.
Won't go away umless they're patched, though.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Loadings are total mood killers and a huge turn off.
clem84
Gold Member
Wouldn't it be funny if PS5 and XSX turned out to have similar load times and graphics that are pretty much on par? This big deal about one having a faster SSD and the other 1.8 more TF might not amount to anything. I really hope those SSD are as fast as they're made out to be. This will be a major advancement in gaming. Even the Switch for some reason, sometimes has pretty bad load times.
losslessFlac
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1) Any game with flight will see big improvements in level density and speed.
2) This is a great QoL change for fighting games. Imagine being able to change characters in training mode with a game pause without going to character select.
3) Death won't be as punishing in games, because restarting and reloading the level will be far quicker.
4) Seamless and not as disjointing quick traversal! Space games will be big next gen.
5) Imagine FF7 Remake Part 2 with lots of fights like the Swordipede where you control 2 parties across 2 maps and can switch immediately.
6) Imagine a full 3D game where you shift on the fly between the real world and some analagous spirit world. Think on the fly shifting between Persona 5 real locations and palaces. The level design is similar, but not quite and you can switch between levels to manipulate the other.
7) Imagine the new special effects possibility. Your character can have an ability which reloads the textures of all assets on the map. Ingame cosmetic changes. Imagine 30 fps texture changes, you could animate paint changing on the wall like a flipbook.
2) This is a great QoL change for fighting games. Imagine being able to change characters in training mode with a game pause without going to character select.
3) Death won't be as punishing in games, because restarting and reloading the level will be far quicker.
4) Seamless and not as disjointing quick traversal! Space games will be big next gen.
5) Imagine FF7 Remake Part 2 with lots of fights like the Swordipede where you control 2 parties across 2 maps and can switch immediately.
6) Imagine a full 3D game where you shift on the fly between the real world and some analagous spirit world. Think on the fly shifting between Persona 5 real locations and palaces. The level design is similar, but not quite and you can switch between levels to manipulate the other.
7) Imagine the new special effects possibility. Your character can have an ability which reloads the textures of all assets on the map. Ingame cosmetic changes. Imagine 30 fps texture changes, you could animate paint changing on the wall like a flipbook.
Skyfox
Member
Sony said the same thing last gen when they were talking about reducing splash screens and legal warnings for a more immediate game centred experience.
I dont mind if a splash screen is hiding loading in the background but it has to TELL ME it is loading when I press a button to skip that dogshit.
Imagine having to listen to a bunch of legal shit and company names every time you turned the key in your car.
The ratchet demo was designed to show off reflections and quick loading. How well this translates to third party remains to be seen.
Nintendo have always been the best at real world focus on immediacy in my experience.
Yeah yeah, SSD I'm not stupid. I understand the tech. How it will be used - no one knows yet.
I dont mind if a splash screen is hiding loading in the background but it has to TELL ME it is loading when I press a button to skip that dogshit.
Imagine having to listen to a bunch of legal shit and company names every time you turned the key in your car.
The ratchet demo was designed to show off reflections and quick loading. How well this translates to third party remains to be seen.
Nintendo have always been the best at real world focus on immediacy in my experience.
Yeah yeah, SSD I'm not stupid. I understand the tech. How it will be used - no one knows yet.
Manwithoutfear
Member
Seriously, this is a big deal. Load times have been an annoyance since disc-based gaming came on the scene.
To me, loading screens are one of the worst parts of the entire hobby of video games. They kill the pacing. They're annoying. And they've gotten overlooked generation after generation in order to push prettier graphics.
It seems to be all changing, finally. Load times may still technically exists, but when you go from load times that give you enough time to make a sandwich to load times where you don't really have time to set your controller down and pick it back up, it is pretty exciting.
I realize this is the Internet, and we'd rather complain than appreciate things, but we really should give more attention to this aspect of the new generation.
As someone who played/beat assassins creed origins/odyssey on console and PC(for origin), i'm greatly appreciative of load times going away. It takes FOREVER to get into the game on assass origin/odyssey on console.
Vawn
Banned
Nice drive-by "PleaseWaitStation4", but Ratcht is badass, no matter how furry he is.
Judging by your user name you must HATE how fast the PS5's SSD is.
Smiles and Cries
Member
I use load times to sip my drinks though 
I remember the days when I could take a piss break during load times
I remember the days when I could take a piss break during load times
Vawn
Banned
I agree with this. Games will ALWAYS be limited by the least common denominator unless the teams making the versions are 100% seperate from each other (very rare, but we see it with Switch games now).
As long as third-party games are cross-gen, they'll focus on getting the game to run on base Xbox One. For "true" next-gen games, games will be limited by PS5's GPU and Xbox's SSD.
lukilladog
Member
I´d rather have load times than hiccups and stutters.
Vawn
Banned
Luckily, SSDs help with both. Even modern games attempt to load things on the fly, but with the SSD (especially, PS5's), this will be around 100x smoother.
Vawn
Banned
This blows my mind. You aren't the only one. I just don't get it. Loading times are probably the single most annoying aspect of video games for me since the PlayStation 1 and 3D gaming entered the scene.
I hate loading screens. Some are better than others, but it's always annoying.
lukilladog
Member
Unfortunately ssd´s don´t fix stutters 100% in my experience, I´d rather have loading screens here and there.
Vawn
Banned
Yeah, I love Switch, but the long load times in many games is surprising to me. I'm confused why it is so bad being weaker tech on a cartridge based system.
GymWolf
Gold Member
Never been bothered by loading times, i vastly prefer 60 frames with loading times or 3080ti power level with loading times.
I have my phone and tablet close to me when i play, i usually browse something here or reddit when i wait a loading time
Roman Empire
Member
DMC5 has loading screens for the most trivial shit. I avoided going to Nico because I would have 3 loading screens waiting for me.
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SLoWMoTIoN
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I have like 1 second loading screens on some games just currently using modern ssds so eh.
JeloSWE
Member
Like when you teleport Link to another location on the map in the first party game BotW.
RedVIper
Banned
I don't think this had anything to do with HDD or SSD. If anything it would just make those load times faster.
Vawn
Banned
Switch is my most played console. It was worse load times than PS4.
Fuz
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Stuart360
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There will still be load times, its just they will be seconds instead of potentially a minute plus.
Its like i said in another thread, i'm currently playing NFS: Heat on a Sata SSD, and it takes around 80-90 secs to load into the game world from the title screen. Now thats quite an extreme case, but 80-90 secs on a Sata SSD would mean 8 or 9 secs on PS5, and thats a current gen game.
Most games on a Sata drive are like 20 secs, 30 secs, etc, so you would still be talking a few seconds, which is a massive difference compared to this gen obviously, but at the same time you're not going to get literally zero load times.
Its like i said in another thread, i'm currently playing NFS: Heat on a Sata SSD, and it takes around 80-90 secs to load into the game world from the title screen. Now thats quite an extreme case, but 80-90 secs on a Sata SSD would mean 8 or 9 secs on PS5, and thats a current gen game.
Most games on a Sata drive are like 20 secs, 30 secs, etc, so you would still be talking a few seconds, which is a massive difference compared to this gen obviously, but at the same time you're not going to get literally zero load times.