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[Panda Bear]

Richard would be Locke's constant right?

Yeah I forgot about Locke, good point. Richard very well could be his constant. It's up to speculation really.

I figured Sawyer & Faraday just haven't gotten nosebleeds yet because they've both been on the island the least. It's going in order of time spent on the island, so John + Sawyer should get nosebleeds at the same time, followed son by Faraday. I mean, if they really found their "constant" in past Kate and Des, wouldn't this have stopped completely for them?

I think it would have stopped for them if their consciousnesses were travelling through time like Desmond's was. In this case it's either their bodies or the island or both, depending on how you look at it. Either way though, the time travel is due to the island, not their bodies or their minds like it was with Desmond. I mean I think it's been made quite clear that Desmond is Faraday's constant and that he has come into contact with Desmond. It's pretty safe to assume he's safe I think. Sawyer is much more up in the air, but as I said, I really think Kate may be his constant. I mean what was the point of showing only him that scene with Kate and Claire? It makes sense to me that this was to show him his constant. Like I said though I forgot Locke. It would make sense then that if he is not going to have nosebleeds that his constant could be Richard or maybe even Widmore, who knows.

I believe they need the current day survivors to come and get them, to bridge their current day timeline and anchor it to the time traveling islanders. As soon as the o6 arrive, the island should automatically land the travelers in a timeline 3 years from their original jump. Or the o6 will arrive literally the second Ben pushes the donkey wheel and the travelers will return to the time period from which they jumped. That's my theory - which probably means it won't happen:lol

I actually think this makes sense. It would be the reason why they all need to come back. It's to pull the island out of the time loop and get it set back straight again.

 

[Plinko]

Just finished the "The Constant" and cried my eyes out again at the end. It really is the best hour of entertainment ever written.

Fixed.

 

[Panda Bear]

can someone write down the constants for each character?

Daniel faradays got Desmond
Locke got Richard
Charlotte got ??? DANIEL FARADAY?
Sawyer got ?
doctor woman"forgot her name:lol " got ?

The only confirmed ones for now are Desmond>>Penny and Faraday>>Desmond. Anything else is up to speculation.

 

[Xrenity]

AHH YES, they are all time travelling now and they all need constants to survive...the redhead woman that daniel loves, didnt he know her BEFORE the island?? they came there together so why is she bleeding if daniel is her constant?

Maybe Daniel is not her constant? Meaning she doesn't love him?

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

I'm digging Best Week Ever's recap:lol

Who washed up onshore this week but our (third)-favorite still-alive Lost badass, Jin! The following pie chart illustrates how many Lost-watchers were actually surprised by this:

:lol :lol

 

[robertsan21]

Maybe Daniel is not her constant? Meaning she doesn't love him?

hmm do you really have to like the person??

I thought you just needed to KNOW the person on the island and have known her/him BEFORE the island???

 

[Panda Bear]

I'm digging Best Week Ever's recap:lol

:lol :lol

Yes thank you. I mean who honestly thought Jin was dead? That would be like killing Desmond. I mean honestly.

 

[Linkhero1]

I'm digging Best Week Ever's recap:lol

:lol :lol

:lol :lol :lol

 

[Panda Bear]

hmm do you really have to like the person??

I thought you just needed to KNOW the person on the island and have known her/him BEFORE the island???

From lostpedia:

Daniel Faraday explains that when a consciousness travels back and forth through time, it needs a constant to latch on to. A constant is an object or person that exists in both periods of time, that the traveller deeply cares about and could recognize. If a constant is not found, the oscillations between different times will become more frequent and chaotic until the individual dies from what appears to be a severe brain aneurysm.

Oh shit it appears, according to lostpedia that you can choose your constant. I've never heard that before. Is that just speculation on their part or has this been confirmed? Because that would change things a lot.


Oh also, I think it's worth pointing out Dan Hopper's horrible horrible taste in women. Juliet is ugly? wtf

 

[Ceres]

I'm digging Best Week Ever's recap:lol



:lol :lol

I figured he wasn't dead but was afraid at the end of last season since there isn't a good track record thus far for actors who have gotten DWIs.

 

[Xrenity]

hmm do you really have to like the person??

I thought you just needed to KNOW the person on the island and have known her/him BEFORE the island???

Well, I assume the person or maybe object (Richards compass?) must be very important to you.

Desmond is Faradays constant because he means a lot to him - told him the numbers for the time travel stuff in 'the Constant'.
Penny is Desmonds constant because he loves her.
Same for Sawyer with Kate.
Locke with the compass/Richard maybe?

/edit
Oh, or what brightyoungthing says

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

I'm digging Best Week Ever's recap:lol

UHHH…MR. FARADAY, WE ALL HAVE NOSEBLEEDS

:lol :lol

 

[Solo]

Weakest episode of the season yet, but still pretty decent.

I really have no interest in the Kate/Aaron stuff, so that kind of bogs things down for me. On top of that, I was able to easily predict all 3 "twists" before they happened: Ben being the one behind Kate's legal issues, Jin, and Rousseau. Im not saying thats a bad thing, but when the characters arent delivering a standout episode for me, its nice if one of the plot points can at least take you by surprise, which didnt happen in this episode. At least almost everyone is together now on the docks (sans Hurley), so hopefully they can stop pussy-footing around now and get back to the island soon.

It wasnt all bad though. The stuff on the island worked for me. I loved the flash to the night at the hatch (from Deus Ex Machina in S1), Sawyer witnessing Aaron's birth, and the flash to an unknown time with those rafts. Also, am I crazy or does it seem like the writers are going to gradually pair up Juliet and Sawyer?

Finally, why in the hell does everyone think Sun wants to kill Ben? Seems pretty obvious that its Jack she wants to kill, not Ben. She doesnt know that Ben was responsible for the explosion, and they've made sure to cut the scene where Jack stops Kate from getting Jin into the "previously on LOST" recaps. Then theres the way she said "So, how's Jack?" to Kate.

 

[Blader]

Finally, why in the hell does everyone think Sun wants to kill Ben?

Because she said she wants to kill Ben?

 

[Panda Bear]

Weakest episode of the season yet, but still pretty decent.

I really have no interest in the Kate/Aaron stuff, so that kind of bogs things down for me. On top of that, I was able to easily predict all 3 "twists" before they happened: Ben being the one behind Kate's legal issues, Jin, and Rousseau. Im not saying thats a bad thing, but when the characters arent delivering a standout episode for me, its nice if one of the plot points can at least take you by surprise, which didnt happen in this episode. At least almost everyone is together now on the docks (sans Hurley), so hopefully they can stop pussy-footing around now and get back to the island soon.

I don't really think you're alone in that.

It wasnt all bad though. The stuff on the island worked for me. I loved the flash to the night at the hatch (from Deus Ex Machina in S1), Sawyer witnessing Aaron's birth, and the flash to an unknown time with those rafts. Also, am I crazy or does it seem like the writers are going to gradually pair up Juliet and Sawyer?

Finally, why in the hell does everyone think Sun wants to kill Ben? Seems pretty obvious that its Jack she wants to kill, not Ben. She doesnt know that Ben was responsible for the explosion, and they've made sure to cut the scene where Jack stops Kate from getting Jin into the "previously on LOST" recaps. Then theres the way she said "So, how's Jack?" to Kate.

Also, if you watch the preview closely it seems quite clear that she points the gun at Jack and he puts up his hands while Kate tried to stop Sun. Another pointless plot development since we know Jack can't die. I don't know why they're wasting time with stuff like that.

 

[Solo]

Because she said she wants to kill Ben?

When did she say this? I must have had a major brainfart and missed it.

 

[Panda Bear]

When did she say this? I must have had a major brainfart and missed it.

When she was talking to Widmore last season.

 

[Raist]

Oh shit their french accent was so wrong. :lol

Unless I've missed something and they're supposed to be from Quebec

 

[Ceres]

When did she say this? I must have had a major brainfart and missed it.

It was in Because you Left.

At Heathrow Airport in London, Sun attempts to fly to Los Angeles via Oceanic Airlines, but finds herself locked in a room by airport security. Charles Widmore reveals himself as her captor, saying that he is angry that she had the "audacity" to approach him the way she did in London, in broad daylight in front of his work associates, but he still wishes to talk about their "common interests." When asked what exactly those interests are, Sun replies, "To kill Benjamin Linus."

 

[ErasureAcer]

The Island didn't have any healing qualities on Rousseau's look over the years.

 

[Solo]

It was in Because you Left.

Hmm... I still think its Jack she wants. She could just be using Widmore, his resources, and his desire to get Ben as a means to get at Jack. Or, I could be totally wrong :lol

 

[DCX]

I figured Sawyer & Faraday just haven't gotten nosebleeds yet because they've both been on the island the least. It's going in order of time spent on the island, so John + Sawyer should get nosebleeds at the same time, followed son by Faraday. I mean, if they really found their "constant" in past Kate and Des, wouldn't this have stopped completely for them?

I believe they need the current day survivors to come and get them, to bridge their current day timeline and anchor it to the time traveling islanders. As soon as the o6 arrive, the island should automatically land the travelers in a timeline 3 years from their original jump. Or the o6 will arrive literally the second Ben pushes the donkey wheel and the travelers will return to the time period from which they jumped. That's my theory - which probably means it won't happen:lol

What if they all been to island before. I mean Faraday has been traveling forever and Widmore. What if the O6 are the founding members of the island? First borns that have been given the gift of immortality.

DCX

 

[Garryk]

QUESTION

In the Constant episode: Widmore was at an auction trying to buy a book that was from the capter of the BLACK ROCK ship that was found on the island...


why does he want that book so badly?
can someone tell me more about the black rock ship?
who was the capten of that ship?

Desmond needed a constant I get that, but how come sayid doesnt need one?
he was on that helicopter ride aswell when it came back to the boat.

Was it due to wrong latitude/longitude that desmond freaked out and got all weird?

Widmore used to live on the island so he must have known about the Black Rock being there. Back in 1996 he didn't know where the island was yet so he probably wanted the log from the ship because it might have a clue where the island is.

 

[pringles]

can someone write down the constants for each character?

Daniel faradays got Desmond
Locke got Richard
Charlotte got ??? DANIEL FARADAY?
Sawyer got ?
doctor woman"forgot her name:lol " got ?

Does this kind of time travel really work the same way though?
The whole constant thing I thought was just for when it was the mind that was time-jumping.
This situation is different in that they're actually physically traveling in time, and in a way wouldn't they all be eachother's constants?
I think this is just about stopping the flashes before they all get nosebleed-syndrome and die.

 

[Lakitu]

The Island didn't have any healing qualities on Rousseau's look over the years.

She is gorgeous.

 

[Solo]

All the new ladies so far this year have been nice on the eyes. Especially that one from Jughead who took Faraday to the bomb.

 

[ErasureAcer]

She is gorgeous.

I know but old Rousseau is not.

 

[jamesinclair]

1) The canoe traveled for the same reason the backpack travels.
2) Can someone remind me what happened to Suns pregnancy?
3) Where are rose and bernard again.

 

[Angry Grimace]

I don't quite understand why people can't "get" the time travel aspect. You can change the circumstances surrounding time, but it doesn’t change outcomes. If Sawyer runs up to past-Locke and tells him that Boone will fall out of the plane and die, either, a) it won’t be interpreted as past-Locke as such, or b) Boone will die in some other manner. It’s virtually the same concept as Desmond has been demonstrating for 2 seasons now. Even more to the point; it's not like Desmond, having been told what to do, saw Faraday in Season and was like "WTF, I saw you when I was in the hatch!" Rather, he didn't even recall/remember it until the present occurred.


Beyond that, you're just nitpicking.

 

[suaveric]

Weakest episode of the season yet, but still pretty decent.

I really have no interest in the Kate/Aaron stuff, so that kind of bogs things down for me. On top of that, I was able to easily predict all 3 "twists" before they happened: Ben being the one behind Kate's legal issues, Jin, and Rousseau. Im not saying thats a bad thing, but when the characters arent delivering a standout episode for me, its nice if one of the plot points can at least take you by surprise, which didnt happen in this episode. At least almost everyone is together now on the docks (sans Hurley), so hopefully they can stop pussy-footing around now and get back to the island soon.

It wasnt all bad though. The stuff on the island worked for me. I loved the flash to the night at the hatch (from Deus Ex Machina in S1), Sawyer witnessing Aaron's birth, and the flash to an unknown time with those rafts. Also, am I crazy or does it seem like the writers are going to gradually pair up Juliet and Sawyer?

Finally, why in the hell does everyone think Sun wants to kill Ben? Seems pretty obvious that its Jack she wants to kill, not Ben. She doesnt know that Ben was responsible for the explosion, and they've made sure to cut the scene where Jack stops Kate from getting Jin into the "previously on LOST" recaps. Then theres the way she said "So, how's Jack?" to Kate.

I agree, something seems to be brewing there. I guess that just makes the love quadrangle (or is it a circle) more complete. Jack loves Kate who loves Sawyer who loves Juliet who loves Jack... and it works in reverse.

 

[Panda Bear]

1) The canoe traveled for the same reason the backpack travels.
2) Can someone remind me what happened to Suns pregnancy?
3) Where are rose and bernard again.

2. She had the baby off the island and presumably left it with someone to take care of for her while she's off killing Ben or Jack or whoever. (I think they showed this but I don't remember.)
3. They're off becoming skeletons in a cave.

 

[bastionwords]

I agree, something seems to be brewing there. I guess that just makes the love quadrangle (or is it a circle) more complete. Jack loves Kate who loves Sawyer who loves Juliet who loves Jack... and it works in reverse.

You know what, why can't they just have a huge fucking orgy and get it over with.

3. They're off becoming skeletons in a cave.

There out finding some black and white stones.

 

[adg1034]

1) The canoe traveled for the same reason the backpack travels.
2) Can someone remind me what happened to Suns pregnancy?
3) Where are rose and bernard again.

According to Team Darlton on the podcast, Rose and Bernard are still alive, flashing through time... somewhere else on the island. They said it in a way that conveyed "They're really not all that important, so no need to worry about it. They'll come back when they come back."

 

[Blimblim]

Oh shit their french accent was so wrong. :lol

Unless I've missed something and they're supposed to be from Quebec

It's not that their accent is genuinely bad, it's mostly because they obviously have no one in the production to actually have them talk like French people. No directing=stunted talking like this.

 

[gdt]

You know what, why can't they just have a huge fucking orgy and get it over with.

There out finding some black and white stones.

Oh

OH

OOOOOOOOHHHHHHH


OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH YYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEE--HEY!-------------------------------------DOC!



-Sorry Sawyer. Wrong hole.

 

[Yaweee]

I didn't much care for the episode.

Sure, it had some great moments and mysteries (Hurley in prison, Sayid's fight, the deserted camp at the beach, and Sawyer's 'Thank you!'), but unlike nearly every other episode of Lost, it didn't feel like it told any specific story arch. It felt like just some arbitrary cross-section of story, whatever they could fit into forty-five minutes, like a (please forgive me for the comparison) an episode of Heroes.

 

[DCX]

Sun's baby is with a relative in Seoul.

DCX

 

[Solo]

I agree, something seems to be brewing there. I guess that just makes the love quadrangle (or is it a circle) more complete. Jack loves Kate who loves Sawyer who loves Juliet who loves Jack... and it works in reverse.

The circle is complete!

Slightly off-topic, but I was just rewatching Walkabout, and we all know that was what Terry O'Quinn SHOULD have won the Emmy for (nominated but didnt win), but it got me thinking - what S3 episode was it that he DID win the Emmy for? The Man From Talahassee?

 

[Angry Grimace]

I didn't much care for the episode.

Sure, it had some great moments and mysteries (Hurley in prison, Sayid's fight, the deserted camp at the beach, and Sawyer's 'Thank you!'), but unlike nearly every other episode of Lost, it didn't feel like it told any specific story arch. It felt like just some arbitrary cross-section of story, whatever they could fit into forty-five minutes, like a (please forgive me for the comparison) an episode of Heroes.

I know it's annoying to have people be preachy, but you just have to accept that episodic content pretty much requires that some installments tell more or less.

If you see every thing within an episode as a Resident Evil-esque construct whereby everything that's happening is just a means to get from point A to point B, then yes it was pointless; the purpose was to merge what Sun, Kate, Aaron, Jack, Sayid and Ben are doing.

 

[Yaweee]

I know it's annoying to have people be preachy, but you just have to accept that episodic content pretty much requires that some installments tell more or less.

If you see every thing within an episode as a Resident Evil-esque construct whereby everything that's happening is just a means to get from point A to point B, then yes it was pointless; the purpose was to merge what Sun, Kate, Aaron, Jack, Sayid and Ben are doing.

I wouldn't call the episode pointless by any means, and I think the people that say 'Nothing happened!' about any episode of Lost are fucking insane. However, I just found the episode to be less satisfying as a result. It was still a well made episode with a lot of great scenes.

 

[Lakitu]

It's my least favourite of the season but the ost was awesome in this one and the last 10 minutes were superb.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

It's my least favourite of the season but the ost was awesome in this one and the last 10 minutes were superb.

What was up with that new theme when Sawyer and Locke were walking off? That was fucking bananas!

 

[Solo]

Hmm... I was just about to say that I havent noticed any NEW Giacchino yet this year. Perhaps I need to rewatch.

 

[Panda Bear]

Oh yeah as to the captain of the Black Rock. I found this while surfing lostpedia.

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Magnus_Hanso

I had forgot about that blast door map. Interesting stuff.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Hmm... I was just about to say that I havent noticed any NEW Giacchino yet this year. Perhaps I need to rewatch.

It really stood out to me. I don't even know what it's based on. It was like something out of Terminator or some shit.

It's basically an "OK, let's do it" kinda theme, playing as Sawyer and Locke, et al, head out of the valley, after Charlotte recovers.

 

[Solo]

Kudos to whoever mentioned earlier that Locke is definitely taking on a few Linus-isms in his leadership. The way he manipulates Sawyer to go to the Orchid ("Dont you want them to come back, James? Dont you want her to come back?") is exactly how Ben would have done it too.

 

[jamesinclair]

Is Vincent traveling through time?

Why doesnt walt need to return to the island?

 

[robertsan21]

Oh yeah as to the captain of the Black Rock. I found this while surfing lostpedia.

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Magnus_Hanso

I had forgot about that blast door map. Interesting stuff.

yea that map is cool, what does the ? mark in the middle mean??

 

[suaveric]

yea that map is cool, what does the ? mark in the middle mean??

I believe that was answered in the episode titled "?".

 

[Yaweee]

Oh yeah as to the captain of the Black Rock. I found this while surfing lostpedia.

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Magnus_Hanso

I had forgot about that blast door map. Interesting stuff.

We really need more of an explanation about the Blast Door Map. The Latin writing now implies that Radzinsky was an Other, which raises a whole bunch of timeline questions. And what is he mapping, and how? They say he had a photographic memory, but could he have been unstuck in time like Desmond and just mapping things from his latest time skip? Is the effect somehow related to the hatch, and it eventually drove Radzinsky to suicide?