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Lost 3x14 - Exposé - 3/27

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The Black Brad Pitt said:
Yes, but i didnt take him THAT literally.

I mean, where did they come from to be there so fast?

They made a point to specifically mention it, and it's exactly what ended up happening. And it wasn't all that fast...I just watched the scene again on my DVR, and it was about an minute and 45 seconds from when she first threw the spider at him, until the other spiders showed up. Where did they come from? They're in a JUNGLE :lol They came from the same place Arzt got the original specimen that was in the jar.
 
OmniGamer said:
They made a point to specifically mention it, and it's exactly what ended up happening. And it wasn't all that fast...I just watched the scene again on my DVR, and it was about an minute and 45 seconds from when she first threw the spider at him, until the other spiders showed up. Where did they come from? They're in a JUNGLE :lol They came from the same place Arzt got the original specimen that was in the jar.
Ah true that, i just watched it again. For some reason i thought the spiders came from when paulo first got bit.

So she says he's paralysed for 8 hours.. so im guessing in 2 eps we'll see whats going on with that (assuming they havent died by then)
 
Kind of dumb until the end, episode would have been SO much better if everyone wasn't acting so damn casual given that TWO PEOPLE JUST (atleast as far as they knew) DIED
 
The Black Brad Pitt said:
Ah true that, i just watched it again. For some reason i thought the spiders came from when paulo first got bit.

So she says he's paralysed for 8 hours.. so im guessing in 2 eps we'll see whats going on with that (assuming they havent died by then)


I would think that they died from suffocation before the sand even filled the hole halfway. I don't see anyway for them to be alive. They would be dead from lack of oxygen in a minute or two.
 
hiryu said:
I would think that they died from suffocation before the sand even filled the hole halfway. I don't see anyway for them to be alive. They would be dead from lack of oxygen in a minute or two.

They are probably dead but you never know. When your heart rate slows down your body consumes less oxygen. Plus it was a shallow grave so they could easily dig themselves out. I think there is a small chance that one day we might see one of them make a return. Earlier in the episode the Australian director toyed with the idea of bringing Nikki's character on Expose back from death after she had been shot several times and there was also the scene with Locke where he told Paulo "nothing stays buried on this island".
 
The show would be best served if those two never come back.

I would love to see all the buried corpses exposed from "erosion" one day though.
 
Miroku said:
The most important question this episode raised for me is:

Were the scenes showing Nikki and Paulo at the plane crash (also showing old character actions and dialog from different angles) filmed recently for this episode, or were they filmed back when they filmed those first episodes?

If they were filmed way back at the beginning, that would really restore my confidence that the shows creators have an unprecendented plan for what they're doing, and make me a lot less accepting about all the "show going nowhere" feelings.

Anyways, that was a well executed episode but it did seem a little pointless.

I rather doubt they were filmed back when the pilot was shot, and I even have a gripe about one instance of the flashback to the first scene of the pilot. In this episode they show Locke say something to Nikki right before that guy is sucked into the engine, but you don't see that in the pilot. I'd have to watch the pilot again to be sure, but it was possibly cut where one could say that in the pilot they just didn't cut to Locke early enough to catch it, but I'm thinking it was a continuous shot of them pulling that guy out of the debris with Locke in the shot the whole time, so you would have seen him do it if he was to do. I could be wrong though, since at that point Locke hadn't even been introduced properly yet and the scene mainly revolved around Jack bouncing around the crash sight.
 
It was very clear that the scenes were green-screened in some cases and reshot in others in order to fill in the gaps; considering that these actors had never been hired, there's no possible way they could have been shot when the pilot was.

However, I don't think that changes their execution. They worked within the show's past two and a half seasons quite seamlessly, which I thought was kind of...well, neat. Boone asking for the pen, diving for the bag at the waterfall...it was all quite indulgent, perhaps, but well-executed and entertaining. The episode had a lot of small hints, a drive towards a conclusion for the episode, and a nice WTF moment at the end.

While it may not go down as the greatest episode of Lost ever, it was a fascinating experiment with the show's formula that should at least go down as one of the coolest pieces of work the writers have done...and could be an ideal Emmy submission due to its stand-alone nature.
 
Miroku said:
The most important question this episode raised for me is:

Were the scenes showing Nikki and Paulo at the plane crash (also showing old character actions and dialog from different angles) filmed recently for this episode, or were they filmed back when they filmed those first episodes?

It looked like old material with Nikki CGI'd in and new scenes with smaller parts of the plane scattered on the beach.
 
The Black Brad Pitt said:
Ah true that, i just watched it again. For some reason i thought the spiders came from when paulo first got bit.

So she says he's paralysed for 8 hours.. so im guessing in 2 eps we'll see whats going on with that (assuming they havent died by then)

They were bitten 8 hours before they were buried (the biting scene said "8 hours ago"). The shovelfull of sand thrown at the camera was from Nikki's perspective. Sawyer had closed her eyes, and she opened them just before the sand came down on her face.

I would assume that Nikki was too shocked, too groggy, or still too paralyzed to cry out.
 
jesus, could the Lost writers and producers shit on a plate and you all would say it is the best thing ever???

This episode was a piece of shit.

All they did was create a new set of characters for a new storyline that crosses paths with the other storylines through the past couple of seasons. Nothing clever or breakthrough.

"Oh look at that, that's what he was doing in the bathroom" Who the **** cares?!?! It doesn't change a single goddamn thing with the big picture.
 
xBigDanx said:
jesus, could the Lost writers and producers shit on a plate and you all would say it is the best thing ever???

This episode was a piece of shit.

All they did was create a new set of characters for a new storyline that crosses paths with the other storylines through the past couple of seasons. Nothing clever or breakthrough.

"Oh look at that, that's what he was doing in the bathroom" Who the **** cares?!?! It doesn't change a single goddamn thing with the big picture.

People have different opinions, get the **** over yourself.
 
Lakitu said:
People have different opinions, get the **** over yourself.

I am aware that some people may have loved this episode... but I'm a bit shocked at just how many people in this thread liked it.

Even more so at the number of people who say this is possibly the best episode of Lost ever? Seriously? GTFO
 
Meh.....

Decent enough episode for filler. Better than frog hunting or getting a car running for example. Of course nothing to advance the plot but then it's Lost so that's not exactly a surprise at this point.
 
Stoney Mason said:
Meh.....

Decent enough episode for filler. Better than frog hunting or getting a car running for example. Of course nothing to advance the plot but then it's Lost so that's not exactly a surprise at this point.

Am I the only one who saw Charlie and Sawyer get busted for kidnapping Sun and then watch Sun's FURTHER development into a more complicated character?

****, it's almost like haters don't even bother watching the show. Just read InsiderScoop and out comes the Iced Tea/Lemonade.
 
BenjaminBirdie said:
Am I the only one who saw Charlie and Sawyer get busted for kidnapping Sun and then watch Sun's FURTHER development into a more complicated character

Yes that was very integral and impactful.....
 
Stoney Mason said:
Yes that was very integral and impactful.....

*shakes head*

I know it's such a tired argument and I myself hate seeing it but I have to ask, why do you bother watching a show that you clearly have so little invested in?
 
BenjaminBirdie said:
*shakes head*

I know it's such a tired argument and I myself hate seeing it but I have to ask, why do you bother watching a show that you clearly have so little invested in?

*shakes head*

If you read through my posts on the show instead of taking pop shot stabs at them perhaps you would understand. Not everybody is going to share your same opinion on everything.
 
Because it's just a goddamn TV show.
Jeez, people act like you need a PhD in Lost just to watch it.
That's what drives me nuts about this show...and it's not even the show's fault.
 
Stoney Mason said:
*shakes head*

If you read through my posts on the show instead of taking pop shot stabs at them perhaps you would understand. Not everybody is going to share your same opinion on everything.

Obviously, but downplaying the character advancement last night paints an entirely different picture than the one you're trying to advance.
 
teruterubozu said:
Because it's just a goddamn TV show.
Jeez, people act like you need a PhD in Lost just to watch it.
That's what drives me nuts about this show...and it's not even the show's fault.

Who needs a PhD? What are you talking about? It's a question of giving a shit about the characters. That's what I mean by investment, not reading every ****ing book Desmond kept in the hatch.

Yikes.
 
Baron Aloha said:
I liked the episode. Its good to have something different every now and then.

I'm spoilertagging the following but I don't really think it is a spoiler. More like speculation.

Paulo's shoe being found in the tree might be significant. In one of the earlier episodes Jack noticed a white shoe in a tree (was it the pilot?). A few episodes after that we saw his father (probably the monster taking his shape) on the island and he was wearing white shoes (they made it a point to show them). This episode also featured a spider that makes someone appear to be dead when bitten. They even went so far as to mention that when the spider bites someone a doctor would have a hard time detecting a heartbeat. Are they trying to drop hints that Jack's father is still alive?

I think Jack's father is still alive... from a certain point of view. This is way out, (way, way out), in Speculation Land but, I think Jack's father is Jacob. I think Jacob has been around for as long as the Others have been on the island, and that he has the ability to reincarnate himself into another person's body.
 
Baron Aloha said:
I liked the episode. Its good to have something different every now and then.

I'm spoilertagging the following but I don't really think it is a spoiler. More like speculation.

Paulo's shoe being found in the tree might be significant. In one of the earlier episodes Jack noticed a white shoe in a tree (was it the pilot?). A few episodes after that we saw his father (probably the monster taking his shape) on the island and he was wearing white shoes (they made it a point to show them). This episode also featured a spider that makes someone appear to be dead when bitten. They even went so far as to mention that when the spider bites someone a doctor would have a hard time detecting a heartbeat. Are they trying to drop hints that Jack's father is still alive?

Ooooh....ooh my....son...of...


You sir, you just might be a genius.
 
I absolutely loved last weeks episode, but this one was pretty weak in my opinion. Perhaps not as filler-esque as some other episodes (the whole 'paralyzed' mini-arc in the episode was kinda cool) but please, less focus on side-characters if they get dumped way fast anyway...
 
About Sun:

Remember she killed an Other on the boat...would she have killed the other if she didn't think the others had tried to kidnap her?


Charlie and Sawyer's action probably has deeper ramifications than we think.
 
I loved yesterday's episode even if it didn't really progress the big picture -- seeing new footage of the crash scene and other earlier episodes was really cool. It made me really uncomfortable that they were
buried alive
-- but i think there's a chance they will come back.
 
MIMIC said:
Maybe that explains the slew of unanswered questions. Shit happens and it's instantly forgotten.

And as for the ending: umm, so what? Someone I didn't give a shit about was buried alive because she did something that I didn't give a shit about.

I'm sorry to say but some of the reactions in this thread are pretty delusional. This episode was horrible, horrible filler. It was almost like a God damned repeat.

This is coming from a guy who likes the character drama in 24.

In other words, I have no reason to consider your opinion at all :)
 
Fatghost said:
About Sun:

Remember she killed an Other on the boat...would she have killed the other if she didn't think the others had tried to kidnap her?


Charlie and Sawyer's action probably has deeper ramifications than we think.
Totally good point.
 
That must have been the most atrocious piece of crap I've ever seen in my entire life.

How Lost can turn from good to shit in one week where it took BSG half a season, I don't know.

The good side is we won't be seeing them anymore...hopefully.
 
I liked the episode. I always thought it was weird how they put those two characters in the show out of nowhere, with no story. Hopefully they'll stay gone.
 
crashen said:
So was it just me or were there monster/computer noises when all those spiders came and bit Nikki? If that's the case, maybe the spiders were a manifestation of the monster trying to kill them?
I heard the same thing. Fully expected the shadow thing to come out of the jungle or something.
 
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R.I.P.
 
Best filler ever!

I might have been disappointed with this one had I been expecting a plot-advancing episode, but I knew it was about Nikki and Paulo so I had a very bad feeling about it, and I wasn't excited to see it. But it totally blew me away... My eyes were glued to the TV and I almost didn't blink the entire time, very fun episode.

Lost is on a roll.
 
Dan said:
That was a reference to the opening scene with Nikki and Billy Dee. I don't think it's worth reading into. It seems clear that the episode hadn't aired before the crash, so Hurley was excited to find out about it. Nothing more.

I'm aware that it was referring to that part in the beginning. It's just that the way Hurley went to such detail explaining it made me take notice.
 
Most entertaining filler episode yet.

Shame it's still a filler episode. How the **** do they put a filler int he backend of a season?
 
I don't think the horse (or the cat from Sayid's flashback) were the monster... They are real and probably came out of the "magic box" on the island, the writers basically confirm that in the newest podcast.
 
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=40743

Naveen Andrews, who plays Sayid on ABC's hit series Lost, told SCI FI Wire that he believes the network may be mulling a later start for the upcoming fourth season, which would begin in January and run straight without a break, a la Fox's 24. "I believe that's the plan," Andrews said in an interview while promoting Grindhouse, in which he has a role.

This year, Lost premiered in the fall, ran for six weeks, then took a 13-week hiatus before returning in March with original episodes. The audience for the once-white-hot series cooled considerably, though it remains a top-10 show. The show also moved to a later timeslot, Wednesdays at 10 p.m., which may have been a factor in the audience drop.

"I think they should make it sort of like what it was before," Andrews opined. "I liked it when it started a little bit earlier, because a lot of the audience are kids, aren't they? I thought, hmm."

ABC recently announced that it was renewing Lost, but made no mention of start dates or timeslots.

As for future episodes involving Andrews' character, a former intelligence officer for the Iraqi Republican Guard? "It would be nice if he were seen a bit more," Andrews said. "That's a start."

Andrews added about the show's direction: "I loved the first season. Now I'm really proud of it, and I put it up there with the work that I'm most proud of, and we'll always have it. They can't ever take it away. It'll always be there. And, you know, I'm not a writer. It's their choice to do what they want to with that show, and they will."

Lost remains in production, with four or five episodes yet to film, including the season finale, Andrews said. Grindhouse opens April 6


http://www.medialifemagazine.com/artman/publish/article_11127.asp
With such a slow start to the night—ABC averaged just a 1.7 among 18-49s those first two hours—“Lost” at 10 p.m. hit another series low, posting a 5.0 among 18-49s and averaging 11.2 million total viewers. The show did, however, finish first in its timeslot among 18-49s and total viewers.
 
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