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Lost season 2 episode 17 - "Lockdown"

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Dez said:
and this week's random lost connection had Locke talking to Sahid's girl, Nadia.
I saw that too, I didn't say anything because I thought Sahid had said she died.

AirBrian said:
Are you talking about the girl at the bank? I thought Sayid's girl was in Iraq?
No, it was the girl whose house Locke inspected when he met his father at the car and found out
he wasn't dead
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AirBrian said:
Are you talking about the girl at the bank? I thought Sayid's girl was in Iraq?

The girl was standing outside some house, and Locke was talking to her about.. something to do with his job, I can't remember.
 
eXxy said:
Here's something else we haven't brought up -- I think one of the revelations in this episode is that Locke's father is the real Sawyer.

I think its almost a given. Also explains how he was able to steal his sons kidney and not feel too bad about it.
 
The Numbers are also listed down by the Swan station, but maybe not exactly. I can see the 8, 23 and 42 clearly. Looks like it might begin with a 2 and 4, but that leaves enough room only for either 15 or 16 (looks like a 16 to me)...

Some square roots are going on on that lefthand station. Square root of 16, 64 and 225... Hmm, that would result in part of the main sequence of numbers.

Numbers on the right side of the map as well...
 
I'm an idiot. I am looking at this further in photoshop and I just realized something. C = 100 in roman numerals so C I is 101, etc.
 
holy shit what an awesome episode. i hope to god the season finishes strong. btw, according to tv.com's lost episode guide there are only 3 more new episodes left in the season. please tell me that there are still more to come, and are just not listed. 20 episodes in the season seems kinda short.

also, fuck you to all the lost haters.
 
Dez said:
The girl was standing outside some house, and Locke was talking to her about.. something to do with his job, I can't remember.
Oh, that girl. Got it. And a quick search reveals that she isn't dead.

Sayid says in this episode that Nadia is dead, and that it is his fault. This doesn't make sense since Sayid was on his way to see Nadia when the plane crashed (as it is revealed later in season 1). The only explanation for claiming that Nadia is dead is that he was trying to relate to Rousseau, who was asking about "Alex", whom Sayid presumed was her husband.
 
Benadryl Hitman said:
I'm an idiot. I am looking at this further in photoshop and I just realized something. C = 100 in roman numerals so C I is 101, etc.
Of course, it all makes sense now!

....
 
With all the stuff written on the blast door, the walls must have come down before time ran out in the past. Kinda strange that the vents still allow you to get back to the computer. Whatever it does can't be that deadly (if it does anything) or the vents would have to be sealed off. But Desmond still thought he would die. So the writing had have been from whoever was in there before him.
 
Questions:

1) What was coming through the speakers? (some kind of countdown at the end)

2) Why did the blast doors come down?

3) Who was writing on the map on the blast door?

4) Why was the map being written?

I would assume that the notes were added at varying time periods, with some of them faded. Maybe multiple people who ran the station? Desmond, his partner and others?

Now, according to the orientation video, Swan is Station 3 (of 6, each dedicated to a specific scientific pursuit - meteorology, psychology, parapsychology, zoology, electromagnetism, and utopian social -something-). From the map, I'd guess that Swan somehow incorporates both CV I and CV II, whatever those refer to.

Some of the structures on the map are drawn in dotted lines... could those be incomplete? Could there only be four stations that were completed, two incompleted and one destroyed or never begun?
 
Oh snap...right. I forgot to add my theory on the doors.

I believe that the doors come down every time that supplies are delivered. The loudspeakers, although they were broken, were likely telling all personnel to move into the living area. Then, the gates would be dropped down and the supplies would be dropped. While we can't be sure as to whether the input of the numbers is included in this equation or not, it is clear that there has to be some sort of connection with these actions. It is likely in order to keep them from attempting to be rescued and to keep them isolated.

Some of the structures on the map are drawn in dotted lines... could those be incomplete? Could there only be four stations that were completed, two incompleted and one destroyed or never begun?

Well, if we think back to the one where The Tailies were hanging out, it was clearly unfinished. It had its basic foundation, and some basic supplies, but it was clearly not completed.
 
Dan said:
Questions:

1) What was coming through the speakers? (some kind of countdown at the end)

sounded like a verbal countdown

2) Why did the blast doors come down?

???

3) Who was writing on the map on the blast door?

Somebody stuck in there?

4) Why was the map being written?

I'm gonna guess somebody was in there, managed to find a way to the other "stations" and back within the countdown limit (maybe there are tunnels, doesn't seem like it would work going by the size of the island on the surface) and wanted to get the hell out.

I would assume that the notes were added at varying time periods, with some of them faded. Maybe multiple people who ran the station? Desmond, his partner and others?

Now, according to the orientation video, Swan is Station 3 (of 6, each dedicated to a specific scientific pursuit - meteorology, psychology, parapsychology, zoology, electromagnetism, and utopian social -something-). From the map, I'd guess that Swan somehow incorporates both CV I and CV II, whatever those refer to.

Some of the structures on the map are drawn in dotted lines... could those be incomplete? Could there only be four stations that were completed, two incompleted and one destroyed or never begun?

Desmond was pretty much convinced he would die if he didn't hit the button. I don't think he would have wasted time writing stuff on the wall with the countdown going down. We don't know if "Kelvin" was somebody stuck in the situation or a dharma person that lured him in there after his boat crashed (though it might be hard to fake a death in that case since Desmond wouldn't have much else to do better than burying somebody). The orientaiton video was supposedly from 1980, desmond had been there three years... the writing could be pretty old and maybe he never saw it, although he had to be running somewhere when the computer was busted if he thought he stood a chance of surviving.

Next week is Hurley episode... maybe Leonard was down there. :lol

Also, did the second plane that flew by have an oceanic logo too or was it just the first one?
 
Drozmight said:
There's a giant MECH in the middle of the island. the end.

The finale we'll find out Locke is the grandson of Big Boss and he'll have to take out Metal Gear with his knife and a coconut.

From the looks of it, the map looks like it was drawn by someone who isn't privy to the inner workings of the island. So I'm guessing Desmond drew it. (he probably scampered off to another station?) We better see him before the season's over.
 
Dan said:
What!?

So... safe to assume that 'Henry Gale' didn't actually input anything? A parachute drop is somehow triggered...

Damn. A lot happened tonight.

I think he did hit the numbers in time. Afterall, we didn't hear the machinery (huge electromagnet?) firing up like we did when Locke was a bit late. That doesn't answer what triggered the parachute drop though. Maybe the map shows the "official" drop zone?
 
Memles said:
Well, if we think back to the one where The Tailies were hanging out, it was clearly unfinished. It had its basic foundation, and some basic supplies, but it was clearly not completed.
Yeah, exactly.

What if the blast doors aren't supposed to keep people in, but keep people out? Not sure if that'd make any sense though...
 
Archaix said:
Entirely baseless speculation here, but:

Is there any chance at all that Locke's dad is Sawyer? The original Sawyer, where "Sawyer" got his name?

Hah! That's so far fetched, it's almost certainly true. Let's hope they reveal that secret tastefully.

Btw: I'm hooked again. Man, it didn't take much story progression at all. This season has been progressing the main plot so slowly
 
Dez said:
OT, but did anyone see the Alias trailer? Can't wait!

Lena Olin!

Did you miss the last episode way back when or something? That was revealed then. Nice to see they're promoting it, though.
 
Benadryl Hitman said:
Something "massive cvII ----- accident" written on the wall. Actually there are multiple CVIII, CVI, etc.

I don't think it says "massive", I think it says "possible".... so "possible CVII -- inactive since incident"
 
Javaman said:
I think he did hit the numbers in time. Afterall, we didn't hear the machinery (huge electromagnet?) firing up like we did when Locke was a bit late.

Yes, those machines did fire up. They sounded exactly the same.

I think the drop was scheduled and the "Lockdown" countdown that played over the speakers was a countdown to when the lockdown would occur because new supplies were being delivered.
 
ckohler said:
Yes, those machines did fire up. They sounded exactly the same.

I think the drop was scheduled and the "Lockdown" countdown that played over the speakers was a countdown to when the lockdown would occur because new supplies were being delivered.

Ya I heard them too and also think the drop was a scheduled event and not related at all to the numbers. As for whether or not "Henry" punched in the numbers, well, the more omgwtf thing to think is he didn't. But I bet he did after a few minutes or why would the UV lights turn off?
 
This season hasn't been too bad. The only crappy episode was Michael's at the beginning of the season. Charlie's while not interesting was pivotal...in that it created Darth Charlie 2 episodes later...which was all worth it.
 
Joe said:
is next weeks episode really the last new one until more reruns AGAIN!?!?
All the sites I'm looking at show two more new episodes, then two weeks of repeats, then the show runs through May until it ends.
 
Hang on.

A countdown starts, either telling the 2 staff to move out of the living area, or move within it. Blast doors come down trapping them in, or out.

The countdown warning sounds, during this time. Why ? What is the point of that when the only option would be to not push the button if trapped inside ?

If trapped outside, why ? What is the point ?

I can only assume that Henry Gale entered no numbers and pushed no button, that was a total lie.
 
What a fucking awesome episode! So many revelations, this one is gonna be hard to top this season. I'll have to watch it again coz it all comes right at ya... but as far as I know there's two eps without reruns, Dave and S.O.S. then a break I think, I just hope it's brief.

I was convinced that (fake) Henry Gale was not an other.. that ending twist really blew me away. And that map? I was also pretty convinced Locke would be paralyzed this episode in his flashback but his flashback was very strong, I was very sad when Helen said no. Also... that next episode looks really good, Hurley is going mad!!
 
Burger said:
Hang on.

A countdown starts, either telling the 2 staff to move out of the living area, or move within it. Blast doors come down trapping them in, or out.

The countdown warning sounds, during this time. Why ? What is the point of that when the only option would be to not push the button if trapped inside ?

If trapped outside, why ? What is the point ?

I think the countdown is completely unrelated to the supply drop - as someone on the Lost forums hypothesized, a plane was detected by radar, and the lockdown was initiated as a result. After all, the place IS an underground bunker, and the blast doors can certainly serve as protection from potential enemy or military bombings.
 
i havent seen this mentioned... but the house that locke was inspecting... that woman looked like sayid's woman... anyone have screen caps to compare?
 
blahness said:
i havent seen this mentioned... but the house that locke was inspecting... that woman looked like sayid's woman... anyone have screen caps to compare?

It got mentioned about 10 times in this thread. And yeah, it's her.
 
It's a shame that the number next to The Swan isn't CV III because that'd be 108 and since the button has to be pushed every 108 minutes that'd make sense. Although the Sawn really isn't CV II it's just the closest box (bunker) to the sawn but CV III looks really close as well.
 
Eel O'Brian said:
Is anyone else really starting to dislike Jack, or am I the only one?


On the contrary, I'm starting to like him again. He casually owned Sawyer twice, and his threat about the guns was actually chilling. THAT Jack I like. Whiny, confused, arguing all the time with Locke Jack needs to die.


Best line of the night -

"Cause when I want the guns.....I'm going to get the guns."
 
Exclamation-One said:
I think the countdown is completely unrelated to the supply drop - as someone on the Lost forums hypothesized, a plane was detected by radar, and the lockdown was initiated as a result. After all, the place IS an underground bunker, and the blast doors can certainly serve as protection from potential enemy or military bombings.
That's an interesting theory. I like it.
 
I've seen some maps posted, I don't know if this one is:

Perfectly cleaned up, and almost 100% translated.

Things to note:

It says that one of the hatches was "abandoned due to the incident in 1985." So, our incident - or our first incident - occured in 1985. Also, there was an "inspection" on December 7th, 1981. Just gives us a rough idea of the time frames we're dealing with. In addition, a spot is marked that says it is the "final resting place of Magnius(sp?) Hanso" - I wonder who THAT is?? On the right it says something about the 'geological compostion likely to cause magne(missing) interfernce with webtimer(sp?) project"

SO MUCH TO TAKE IN!!

Thoughts?

http://www.thetailsection.com/uploaded_images/lost-wall-748621.jpg
 
Exclamation-One said:
I think the countdown is completely unrelated to the supply drop - as someone on the Lost forums hypothesized, a plane was detected by radar, and the lockdown was initiated as a result. After all, the place IS an underground bunker, and the blast doors can certainly serve as protection from potential enemy or military bombings.
Excellent theory.

And John, your link isn't working.
 
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