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Louie Season 3 |OT| Thursdays on FX

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Louis CK is a funny guy. A really funny guy. Hilarious. But he is not a brilliant mind. He's not even a great mind.

My impression is that every episode now strains to "make a point", that less time is given to cut-and-dry comedy, that more "leaps" are taken with the shots and the use of color, that more thought is being put into symbolism, and that we are now being treated to more introspection than we were before. And, for me, all of that stuff is less good than the straight comedy.

I'm not asking you to agree or to take my word. I'm just trying to express why I haven't enjoyed the season, why I disliked tonight's episode, and why I'm very close to tuning out for as long as the people I trust suggest that things are sticking to the current course. <shrug>
 
Everything Louis CK does is awesome and magical, and we can learn a lot from every single thing he does.

Having nowhere else to ask : Anyone else seeing him live? I'm hoping to get 4 tickets to one of his two Ohio shows. Damn scalpers.
 
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Wait, so CK is not allowed to try and offer insight because he's not smart enough? (Also, how can you ascertain his intelligence simply through what he gives us for entertainment?) Insight hardly needs to come from the smartest person in the room.
And your giving context does come off as holier-than-thou bragging. Sure, you may not mean it that way, but what you said boils down to "I work in philosophy, so I don't care about the viewpoint of a lowly comedian."
I'd also note that a sentiment doesn't need to be deep for it to have a profound effect. So Louie maybe not providing ruminations on life comprable to those of the deep people you hold so highly isn't conclusively bad. Art can impact by delivering a simple message in a profound way.

I...do care for that stuff. I'm a film and tv guy. I do that stuff. I read that stuff. I put value in that stuff.

yep, no argument there because that is the truth.

hm, well Louie is certainly using some more expressive and complicated shots. Don't know that I've noticed any super crazy color usage. he's leaned more on using black and white to establish mood this year but I haven't found it egregious. there is more symbolism and introspection. for me though, it's been hit after hit.

heh and I'm not asking you to switch opinions to mine! hardly. I just like to discuss film/tv, and in this case I wanted to know what it is that's making some tune out this season while others dig in even deeper. seems like it boils down to this: the show is less blatantly funny and more obviously introspective. That's not what some people are looking for in the show. And that's fine.
I still heavily disagree that any of the insight in this season has rung completely false, or that it's pretentious. To be pretentious an episode would have to try to be important and end up being phony. I don't think the messages are all that important still. "Dad" boils down to "all father-son relationships are weird and will never get better." "Barney/Never" says "unrepentant weird assholes will be disliked." The statements remain fairly mundane and low-brow while the presentation has become much more abstract and adventurous. However, I think I understand the core of what's turning people off about the season now.
 
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Okay, giving it that reasoning doesn't seem like bragging. I get you, and why you want solely comedy from the show. Cool. I think we've reached a good "agree to disagree" point.

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Watching Louie act is like watching Pixar animate. There's so much subtle, incredible detail.
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I just had to watch that gif 9 times: once for each police officer, twice for Jane, 4 times for Louie. Amazing, but this is the real killer:
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so good.
 
I love Chloe Sevigny, and I liked her character, but I think she would have fit in a little better if she had had her own dedicated vignette, as opposed to having to share the one that dealt with the fallout of Liz and Louie's date. It seemed like CK was trying a little too hard to make another quirky and weird female character.

I really enjoyed the second vignette though. Everything with Lilly and Jane is great. I love how Jane kept repeating "She left", and then at the end she was like "Well, I thought she left". haha
 
The second half of the last ep. was better than the 1st ,but not by much. Definitely the weakest of the season so far. Nothing really too funny or interesting. His trying to pay the cop was great though.
 
I like the way the one said "beautiful" when describing the music she was playing. It was cute.
I wonder if that is how they really talk? Either way it is adorable.
 
If we're not disagreeing about whether the balance has changed -- again, my point from the beginning -- then all that's left is the question of whether the change in balance is a good thing or a bad thing. For me, it's certainly bad, because it is not what I want and it involves me getting less of what I want.
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I don't find it bad, just different.

. One of the things that made the first two seasons so successful is that they balanced his knock-down humor with some [edit: EMPHASIS ON 'SOME'] thoughtful reflections on family, children, aging, mundanity, irrelevance, and so on. One minute you'd be hearing about someone's mother being lowered into a tub of diarrhea and then next minute you'd see the guy have some really true-to-life conversation with his daughters that speaks to your own experience. And so on. It was charming and off-beat. But my impression is that he's heard the wrong message from fans, and he's come to believe that we all intrinsically value and admire his philosophical musings. I don't. I appreciate his low-brow thoughtfulness in the right context (as described above). I don't have much interest in watching thirty minutes of this guy's inflated, pensive, self-stroking reflections on his life. I just don't care. It isn't funny and it isn't entertaining. And it isn't interesting. He's a comedian whose charm comes from his normalcy and his realization of his own normalcy. He's not a philosopher or a poet. I want him to go back to being a comedian.
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He doesn't need to be always telling jokes, I enjoy him expressing his take on the world through another form of expression like film. I'm clearly high on the Louis CK kool-aid and really don't see how he can do wrong, and as a fan that throws money at him any chance I can - and if I'm lucky see live in Ohio on October 3 - I've been enjoying this season.
 
The talk about preferring him to be a comedian makes me think it would be cool to see a Stardust Memories like episode. Just a thought.
 
The first half was totally nonsense. :lol

The second was pretty good. His little daugther is the cutest thing. Everytime she's on Louie, it makes me want to have kids of my own.
 
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