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LTTP: Cowboy Bebop ( AKA BEST ANIME EVAR!!)
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The Last Wizard
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that bit always confused me, did she love him secretly? also the way the real folk blues played right after that..goldenNexus Zero said:
You mean the way See You Space Cowboy... started playing aftewards. That's the name of the song. Different lyrics than The Real Folk Blues.NightHawk17 said:that bit always confused me, did she love him secretly? also the way the real folk blues played right after that..golden
And there were little hints throughout the series that spike and faye had a thing for each other. I'm surprised you didn't get that impression from their interactions throughout the show.
AKingNamedPaul
I am Homie
Seriously is the greatest anime ever imo. Then comes the full metal alchemists/ippo's ect.
Decado said:
I hate nostalgia. The 00's have been full of great shows, but people who haven't watched anime in the last five years are quick to leap to judgments.
Although I have to admit, the last few months have been pretty bad. When K-ON is the signature show of the season, that says something.
AKingNamedPaul
I am Homie
Watching currently, and its really good but since I never read the manga, I loved FMA. Kind of a tall order to improve upon something you loved by simply changing the story around, which is why most people had a problem with FMA anyway I'd say.GaimeGuy said:Watch Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood/read the manga
TheRagnCajun
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I thought it had tonnes of style, but other animes have more depth.
B.K. said:
... DO NOT WANT
(Fox trolls us with Man-Faye)
DO NOT WANT DO NOT WANT DO NOT WANT. D:
Also this is still the best anime TV show for me (Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex coming in second), but I don't watch enough anime so I can't be an authority on these things.
Still, I really wish the series kept the first episodes' "style" of being Spike/Jet Black hunting people. For a while, I thought that Tijuana was the actual Earth City (but we don't go to Earth until Edward joins the cast) at first, which made the whole thing awesome. It just felt like a "bounty hunting" show instead of the random disjointed episodes (which are ALL good, but still).
Also it needed more Ein, IMO. Brain Scratch is totally Ein's episode for saving Jet. :lol
One of these days I'm going to finish Gunslinger Girl
Great Rumbler
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Dresden said:
Yep, the 90's had some great shows, certainly, but the 00's haven't exactly been a desert.
Here's some good ones from this decade:
-Claymore
-Planetes
-Haibane-Renmei
-Kino's Journey
-Bacano
-Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex [both seasons]
-Hellsing Ultimate
-Cromartie High School
-Noein
-Witch Hunter Robin
-Wolf's Rain
-Mushishi
-Kurau: Phantom Memory
-Ghosthunt
-Emma: Victorian Romance
-Someday's Dreamers
-Azumanga Daioh
-Earth Maiden Arjuna
-Aria [all three seasons]
-Monster
-RahXephon
-Ergo Proxy
-Noir
-Fullmetal Panic: Fumoffu
-Yugo the Negotiator
-Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust [one of the best anime movies in the past ten years]
-Last Exile
-Niea Under 7
ZephyrFate
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Out of this list, Wolf's Rain, Last Exile, and GitS: Stand Alone Complex are the only ones worth a shit, and that's because they're easily more accessible than the rest for those who do not watch anime. Wolf's Rain, in particular, is the most original.Great Rumbler said:
Great Rumbler
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ZephyrFate said:
Yeah, that's not the case at all, but whatever.
Anyway, Emma is highly accessible, same goes for Witch Hunter Robin [which is basically X-Files with witches], Planetes should appeal to anyone that likes scifi, and Ghosthunt is easy to get into.
And accessibility really is a totally different issue from quality, anyway.
Litflynt912
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B.K. said:
all good choices...but now your going niche...Haibane Renmei was awesome...but no F8*kn action...and if you get into it...you'll be in tears by the end...
Cowboy Bebop has the perfect mix of all the categories, was well drawn and like mentioned 1000x over...had the best dubs...
to each his own...but this is a <3 cowboy bebop thread and I concur
Litflynt912
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Pimpwerx said:
I thought Reeves bought the rights to make the movie and it was going to be made into a feature film? oh, and cast himself as spike....
there was an interview somewhere where he talked about the anime and how it influenced him ...
need to find the youtube...
ZephyrFate
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I haven't seen Monster or Yugo the Negotiator, but reading up on their plots proves that my point still stands... I have, however, seen Mushishi and it is very, painfully Japanese. Not that that's terrible or anything, but if we're talking about accessibility...Geneijin said:
Decado said:
I will definitely put 90s anime up against 00s anime in a battle royale. 80s anime is still my favorite, but I'll take 90s over 00s. Like I said, peaks and valleys, but overall...yeah. I haven't enjoyed anime in the 00s as I did in the 90s.
Dresden said:
I've watched anime for the past 20+ years. Certainly not nostalgia. I didn't say the 00s were terrible, just overall, it is much less enjoyable.
Also, someone said Earth Maiden Arjuna? I enevr thought I'd meet someone who liked that. My god Kawamori should be ashamed of that train wreck. And saying Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust (made in 2000 mind you) is the best anime film in the past decade proves my point. The year before had Jin-Roh...which takes a giant, fantastical, planet sized shit on VHD (not that Bloodlust isn't entertaining though).
Great Rumbler
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ZephyrFate said:
Monster, a series about a medical doctor in Germany, and Yugo the Negotiator, about a world-class negotiator solving problems in Pakistan and Russia, aren't accessible?
Again, quality and accessibility are not mutually exclusive.
DOBERMAN INC
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Great show? Yes. Greatest? Maybe.
I still hold Gunbuster as my personal favourite purely based on my nostalgia.Made me cry when I was younger,But I haven't watched it in years now.
I still hold Gunbuster as my personal favourite purely based on my nostalgia.Made me cry when I was younger,But I haven't watched it in years now.
ZephyrFate said:
If you're defining accessibility as without the typical zaniness you see in something like Ouran High School Host Club, I can understand but Monster and Yugo Negotiator have none of that from what I recall. Mushishi is a sepcial case. The folktales I can somewhat understand but some of the stories like the seed or the shadow snake, you don't need to be versed in Japanese culture, myths etc to appreciate the series.
â Narayan
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I recently watched the REMIX version of the show.
One of the greatest. That's all I can say.
One of the greatest. That's all I can say.
Kabuki Waq
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I prefer Berserk to Bebop. I really enjoyed bebop but I wish there was more of a consistent storyline.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
ZephyrFate said:
I feel like I have to defend Aria, although I don't know why. :lol
There's no violence, upskirts or squealing girls AND it comes off as essentially a Japanese version of Anne of Green Gables or SpongeBob without the silliness.
In terms of accessibility and showing something that you don't see in American animation/television, Aria is it.
Kabuki Waq said:
How can you even compare these two?
I don't mean in terms of quality...but in general. You know what sets Bebop apart? It ends. It is complete from start to finish with a great ending. That is something that eludes good anime TV shows from any era. Every single part of this show came together wonderfully from top to bottom.
The completeness of the show is what makes it stand out and what makes other good shows merely good. That's the big problem with anime and manga being tied so closely together. What would have been good shows get bogged down and tail off because the manga is still running or they're forced to make up shit that really fucks up the flow of the show or whatever. Bebop escapes that wonderfully.
Great Rumbler
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firehawk12 said:
It's also basically a love letter to Venice and the Italian culture.
AKingNamedPaul
I am Homie
Spot onKintaro said:How can you even compare these two?
You know what sets Bebop apart? It ends. It is complete from start to finish with a great ending. That is something that eludes good anime TV shows from any era. Every single part of this show came together wonderfully from top to bottom.
The completeness of the show is what makes it stand out and what makes other good shows merely good. That's the big problem with anime and manga being tied so closely together. What would have been good shows get bogged down and tail off because the manga is still running or they're forced to make up shit that really fucks up the flow of the show or whatever. Bebop escapes that wonderfully.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Great Rumbler said:
Oh yeah, most certainly. It's an animated travelogue/history lesson.
I think it's time we return to appreciating more music from Bebop:
One of the most underrated songs on the soundtrack IMO:
Pierre Bensusan - ELM
One of the most underrated songs on the soundtrack IMO:
Pierre Bensusan - ELM
Jason's Ultimatum
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I don't know how anyone can CB's music isn't the best when it comes to anime. I mean, seriously. I HATE country music and the song Diggin from the movie is on my IPOD. :lol
You know my daddy dug gates for his whole life
And he never knew nothin' more
And his daddy done the dig like his old man
Who dug before the war
And though she couldn't have known til I was born
My poor mother, God rest her soul
Oh, like them I come out diggin'
Well I was laying down wire on Number Nine, now,
When she came down to Earth
And she was talking real loud all about how she
Was gonna save the universe
I went and snuck a little peek in her blue eyes
And words just aren't enough
Oh, she had me off and runnin'
(Yes, she did)
Could it be that I got bored and lonely?
Could it be that I'm just dumb and horny?
Could it be that Lady Luck has smiled herself on me?
(Could it be?)
She wore rattlesnake boots, a sassy mood
She had me laughin' in my tears
The most beautiful thing, so young and sweet
A little green behind the ears
She took me higher than I'd ever been
Lord, what have I been missin'?
Oh, now she is all I'm diggin'
(Yes, she is)
Could it be that I got bored and lonely?
Could it be that I'm just old and horny?
(Could it be now?)
Could it be that Lady Luck has smiled herself on me?
She's smilin' down on me, yeah
Come a little closer
Let me show you how it could be
Spacy little cowgirl
Come a little closer to me
Spacy little cowgirl
(Whoo! Play it)
She's smilin' down on me, yeah
Come a little closer
Let me show you how it could be
Spacy little cowgirl
Come a little closer to me
Spacy little cowgirl
(Mmhmm, yeah
Dig it, dig it, dig it, dig it
Yeah, smilin' down on me
Just dumb and horny)
You know my daddy dug gates for his whole life
And he never knew nothin' more
And his daddy done the dig like his old man
Who dug before the war
And though she couldn't have known til I was born
My poor mother, God rest her soul
Oh, like them I come out diggin'
Well I was laying down wire on Number Nine, now,
When she came down to Earth
And she was talking real loud all about how she
Was gonna save the universe
I went and snuck a little peek in her blue eyes
And words just aren't enough
Oh, she had me off and runnin'
(Yes, she did)
Could it be that I got bored and lonely?
Could it be that I'm just dumb and horny?
Could it be that Lady Luck has smiled herself on me?
(Could it be?)
She wore rattlesnake boots, a sassy mood
She had me laughin' in my tears
The most beautiful thing, so young and sweet
A little green behind the ears
She took me higher than I'd ever been
Lord, what have I been missin'?
Oh, now she is all I'm diggin'
(Yes, she is)
Could it be that I got bored and lonely?
Could it be that I'm just old and horny?
(Could it be now?)
Could it be that Lady Luck has smiled herself on me?
She's smilin' down on me, yeah
Come a little closer
Let me show you how it could be
Spacy little cowgirl
Come a little closer to me
Spacy little cowgirl
(Whoo! Play it)
She's smilin' down on me, yeah
Come a little closer
Let me show you how it could be
Spacy little cowgirl
Come a little closer to me
Spacy little cowgirl
(Mmhmm, yeah
Dig it, dig it, dig it, dig it
Yeah, smilin' down on me
Just dumb and horny)
Great Rumbler
Member
Evlar said:
Apparently you know people with good taste!
DOBERMAN INC
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Evlar said:
Beautiful show. Though many just think it's boring It's certainly a favourite of mine.
ElectricBlue187
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ZephyrFate said:
Kino No Tabi, Noir and Planetes not worth a shit? whut!?
Obviously there's no slam dunk Cowboy Bebop on that list but they're mostly competent shows and worth watching.
Imm0rt4l said:
I'd disagree with that. In most cases, hearing a Japanese voice in, say, London, is really odd. Something like Hellsing makes much more sense in English than in Japanese.
The only show I prefer to watch in Japanese (and not due to a lack of effort or talent), is Samurai Champloo. Everyone's really good, but I have the same sort of problem. It's a Japanese show set when not a lot of Japanese people spoke English.
It definitely has the best theme
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-TAxm00jOg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-TAxm00jOg
Great Rumbler
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ElectricBlue187 said:
Personally, I'd probably put Kino's Journey and Cromartie High School above Cowboy Bebop, as crazy as that sounds. But, then again, my tastes defy all reasonable logic at times.
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