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Boss Doggie

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I've seen the first as a kid and adored it. I missed the second however, and barely caught up with it in its home video showings.

So I watched GB1 a few months ago and I felt it still held up to this day. It was pretty good, and now fully appreciate it because I can get it now.

But I haven't seen GB2.

I can see why people don't like it as much as the first. It had a nice first half but somewhere down there they redid the whole plot of the first film with just a few changes. I kinda wish they handled a bit more of the GB-being-finished arc, and the transition from goners to "back in business" was rather fast in transition.

With that said, it has moments better than GB1. I really love the tunnel scene. Those severed heads and ghost train antic was so hilarious. The ghosts are for the most part better, like the fur coat. And while I nag about New York being mean it does paint a nice picture you don't usually see in sequels back then about "happily ever after".

And I was kinda hoping Janise and Egon were a thing here.
 
Its weird - as a movie collectively, I think it failed but as a collection of individual scene, theres so much that works and is memorable / quotable to me. Equally with Vigo, he was a great villain that was blown in terms of how he was used.

The toaster scene. Vigos painting. The Titanic scene. The court scene. Egon testing relationship therapy. Wiring up the Statue Of Liberty and covering it in happy goo to make it walk to dance music. Vekeman hosting the psychic show. The runaway train. The river of slime. Theres a fuck tonne of iconic imagery in it and I can quote half the move despite not having seen it in a few years.

It was the weaker sequel and people calling it lazy I wouldn't disagree with but...I dunno, I can't put my finger on it. Its a great movie putting on a cheap front.

Seriously think a few minor tweaks and it could have been far better looked upon historically other than 'the lesser sequel'
 
liquidtmd said:
Its weird - as a movie collectively, I think it failed but as a collection of individual scene, theres so much that works and is memorable / quotable to me. Equally with Vigo, he was a great villain that was blown in terms of how he was used.

The toaster scene. Vigos painting. The Titanic scene. The court scene. Egon testing relationship therapy. Wiring up the Statue Of Liberty and covering it in happy goo to make it walk to dance music. Vekeman hosting the psychic show. The runaway train. The river of slime. Theres a fuck tonne of iconic imagery in it and I can quote half the move despite not having seen it in a few years.

It was the weaker sequel and people calling it lazy I wouldn't disagree with but...I dunno, I can't put my finger on it. Its a great movie putting on a cheap front.

Seriously think a few minor tweaks and it could have been far better looked upon historically other than 'the lesser sequel'
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That's really the best way to put it. As individual scenes, they all feel like a better crafted movie. Even some of the spookier shit is legitimately kinda freaky in a way Ghostbusters I kinda wasn't. Vigo peering out, watching Dana. The railroad sequence. The creepy ghost nanny with its red glowing eyes taking the baby. The hands reaching for Ray as he dangles helplessly over a river of slime. Vigo's very malevolence slowly locking the door before a fire starts and Ray and Egon are trapped.

There's great stuff, great creepy shit, great jokes. Just when you pull back and see it as a whole, it's just "...oh this is literally just Ghostbusters I but with a baby" that it's kinda upsetting.
 
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Such a great little neurotic performance, hit the horror / comedy line perfectly as a side character
 
Ghostbusters is my favorite movie of all time. I enjoy Ghostbusters 2. You can tell they copies the plot of the movie a little bit too much but it still has some great jokes, some great scenes it's great to get another of couple of hours with the characters from the first film.
 
Shaanyboi said:
That's really the best way to put it. As individual scenes, they all feel like a better crafted movie. Even some of the spookier shit is legitimately kinda freaky in a way Ghostbusters I kinda wasn't. Vigo peering out, watching Dana. The railroad sequence. The creepy ghost nanny with its red glowing eyes taking the baby. The hands reaching for Ray as he dangles helplessly over a river of slime. Vigo's very malevolence slowly locking the door before a fire starts and Ray and Egon are trapped.

There's great stuff, great creepy shit, great jokes. Just when you pull back and see it as a whole, it's just "...oh this is literally just Ghostbusters I but with a baby" that it's kinda upsetting.
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Yeah, it's not a good film but it has moments that are great and kind of redeem it.

"Doe!"

"Ray!"

"Egon!"
 
I liked it when it came out, and I still like it. Certainly not as good as the first for me, but I don't really get the hatred for it.
 
Ray being easily possessed was sorta out of nowhere though. Even with the foreshadowing it felt kinda... weird.
 
Saw GB2 for the first time very recently. It's definitely the less memorable of the two. It's also a fair bit goofier than the 1st. Which wasn't a subtle or mature movie to begin with. This one feels more "Disney Channel" if that makes sense. There's also the business of the plot being almost entirely the same in essence.

Still having said all that It's not a bad movie at all and after seeing it I possibly liked it more than GB1. There's better character interaction in the sequel. Everyone gets to be funny together instead of mostly just Bill Murray like in the first movie. Also I always found the ending of GB1 anti climactic. They kind of just stand there. Hijacking the statue of liberty and crashing it through an art museum is way cooler. A bizarre moment for sure. But much cooler.

Thats kinda where I stand on Ghostbusters 2. It's a good movie but inessential. If I had to pick one to exist it'd definitely be the original Ghostbusters. But right now and almost any day of the week I'd rather watch Ghostbusters 2.
 
I never liked the rendition of the GB theme in this movie though, I must admit.

Did they imply Ray and Egon lived in the firehouse even without GB calls?
 
I love Ghostbusters 2. Ghostbusters 1 is the best movie of all time, so it's hard to live up to that standard...but the sequel is still excellent
 
Jon Armdog said:
I love Ghostbusters 2. Ghostbusters 1 is the best movie of all time, so it's hard to live up to that standard...but the sequel is still excellent
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This is basically how I feel.

Without GBII we wouldn't have "Where you think this is coming from, THE SKY?!?!" which is one of the lines that always gets me to laugh. It's absolutely just a copy of the first movie but it still has so much good in it.
 
The soundtrack absolutely took away from the tone of this movie. The first movie easily switched between lighthearted, fun music and then serious, scary stuff. The second one sucked in that regard. Plus, nowhere near enough of the original theme.
 
I really hope the third movie won't push Slimer hard. What I love about GB1 and 2 is that he's nonexistent (as in, barely any presence).
 
People hate on this movie and while it pales in comparison to the original (and arguably the cartoon), it's still a fun ride. Plus that Bobby Brown track. 👊🏻
 
The comment about individual scenes is spot on. The parts are greater than the sum. I love the Birthday Party as the opening, when Peter and the gang goes to Dana's apartment and he meets Oscar, everything in the tunnels....if only they could've weaved a consistent story through all this but it jumps around too much and it's easy to lose track.

I suppose it's that the movie is just a collection of great character moments, and I'm fine with that. MacNicol steals the show every scene he's in.
 
I think a major failing they had was they had great individual scenes, but tried to ram them in to a structure that was near a carbon copy of the first

Down on their luck and discredited, pick up an investigation, get nowhere, become successful again in the meantime, initial investigation turns out to be big bad, they get arrested / committed, get broken out, big Stay Puft / Liberty walks through Manhattan, destroy big bad, end.

Its amazing how relatively good and comparatively unique apart the scenes are from the first, yet they pale because the structure is identical so as an audience member you felt it wasn't as good overall since it positivitely (spiritually hovering above te bed) cock teases you to compare the two. It dares you, it double dares you as a movie

As I said above, a few tweaks to this and I feel the benefits would have been great.
 
I love this film, and never really understand why it seems to have such a bad rap. Yes it's not as good as the first one, but then there are few films that are.

It's a bit too similar in structure, but Vigo was awesome - when I was a kid he and his river of slime creeped me right out, the statue of liberty scene is great, everything that Peter MacNicol does is hilarious and/or creepy as hell, and the courtroom scene is INCREDIBLE.

THE SCOLERI BROTHERS.

TRIED 'EM FOR MURDER! GAVE'EM THE CHAIR
 
One thing it makes me wonder though is how all of the happenings on the first film were forgetten, especially what with the witnesses and such.
 
Boss Doggie said:
He was just like in two or three scenes I think and you can ignore all of them and not miss anything.
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I tune ignoring his scenes in the first movie would be a huge mistake seeing as he's the first ghost they test their gear on and successfully capture.

You're right about the second movie though, his cameo is all he needs. His use in the IDW comics is very similar - instead of being their friend like in RGB they keep him in a special tank and occasionally run tests on him.
 
The sequel never sat right with me, having watched the first movie in the cinema and the second on a pirate VHS I didn't feel like I'd missed out on anything with GB2. The characters were there but the movie was like a cheap knock off of the original. It felt smaller, cheaper and less of an event.
 
WordAssassin said:
I tune ignoring his scenes in the first movie would be a huge mistake seeing as he's the first ghost they test their gear on and successfully capture.

You're right about the second movie though, his cameo is all he needs. His use in the IDW comics is very similar - instead of being their friend like in RGB they keep him in a special tank and occasionally run tests on him.
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yeah that's what i meant, was referring to this movie specifically about that

I just feel that I like him being treated like that unlike in RGB and EB where he is like the team pet (through merchandising).
 
Boss Doggie said:
yeah that's what i meant, was referring to this movie specifically about that

I just feel that I like him being treated like that unlike in RGB and EB where he is like the team pet (through merchandising).
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Agreed, as much as I love Ghostbusters, Slimer annoyed the shit out of me in the cartoons. He's best in small doses IMO so sometimes his goofy antics fucking shit up for the GB's was just frusterating instead of funny.

I do really like the idea of the GB's having like.. essentially a gas canary to test things out on. There were a few episodes where they'd only know what was going on because of how Slimer was reacting to the environment or they sent him somewhere they couldn't go (like inside the Containment Unit). The people who did the IDW comics did such an outstanding job.
 
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