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LTTP: Hunter x Hunter 2011 animation Chimera Ant arc

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Jigorath said:
I don't think Gon's ready to really confront his actions during that arc.
Don't forget he was straight up crying as he killed Pitou. Dude's gonna need a long break.
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After a time skip when they're in their 20's Gon's going to be on a couch talking to Killua like:
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Ya'll cheering on Gon while
he suffers a complete mental breakdown, gives up his entire life because of guilt and vengeance, bashes someone's skull in, then gets his arm chopped and is happy about it because he feels so horrible about himself is some weird shit.
 
It's the best. You haven't even gotten to the point where it gets to an even higher lever. Was glued to my seat from the
palace invasion on
.
 
DerangedHermit said:
Guys, imagine if Hisoka had seen Ultimate Gon fighting Pitou. How long do you think that erec--SCHWWWWINNNNGGGGGGG would last?
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Gon would have destroyed him in about a split second as most of the Royal Guards would have probably stomped Hisoka. Hell from what Pitou is saying Gon was on the level or at least had the power to take down the king when he transformed. Hisoka would probably die of a priapism at first sight of Gon.
 
HStallion said:
Gon would have destroyed him in about a split second as most of the Royal Guards would have probably stomped Hisoka. Hell from what Pitou is saying Gon was on the level or at least had the power to take down the king when he transformed. Hisoka would probably die of a priapism at first sight of Gon.
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There's always the possibility of Hisoka going to Shizuku
and having her vacuum out the excess blood from that erection
.
Jigorath said:
Ya'll cheering on Gon while
he suffers a complete mental breakdown, gives up his entire life because of guilt and vengeance, bashes someone's skull in, then gets his arm chopped and is happy about it because he feels so horrible about himself is some weird shit.
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That's what happens when you watch HxH thinking it's strictly pandering to Shonen tropes.
That wasn't Gon going Super Saiyan. That's Gon going "fuck my life I'm checking out of it."
 
Jigorath said:
Ya'll cheering on Gon while
he suffers a complete mental breakdown, gives up his entire life because of guilt and vengeance, bashes someone's skull in, then gets his arm chopped and is happy about it because he feels so horrible about himself is some weird shit.
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We were all Gon in that moment. It was some true Spartacus shit, you wouldn't understand.

"I am Gon!"
 
StaticJam said:
Pitou still was the most sensible of the royal guard
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Eh no. Pitou was a remorseless sadist.

Youpi turned out to be the smartest of the the three, despite what initial appearances would have led us to believe (ie. he's a mass of muscles while the other two look more sophisticated). By the end it was clear that he had developed some degree of free will that transcended his purpose as a servant. We only got to see that briefly before radiation poisoning got the best of him though
 
antibolo said:
Eh no. Pitou was a remorseless sadist.

Youpi turned out to be the smartest of the the three, despite what initial appearances would have led us to believe (ie. he's a mass of muscles while the other two look more sophisticated). By the end it was clear that he had developed some degree of free will that transcended his purpose as a servant. We only got to see that briefly before radiation poisoning got the best of him though
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I'm not going to sit here and say Youpi was the smartest, but I will say he developed an honor code like that of a warrior. Think of him as Chimera Ant Whamu. Pouf was probably the smartest because of his tendencies to be crafty and sneaky like that of a human, Pitou was somewhere in the middle. She wanted to serve the will of her king just like Youpi and Pouf did, but she wasn't plotting to fuck the dude over like Pouf was. I also think Pitou's sadism is something that regressed the more she became enamored with human existence and came into contact with them, which is the same thing that happened with Youpi. The only thing is with Pitou her acts were so fucked up and savage that it became damn near impossible for the viewer to get beyond them. I can't blame a person though, like how the fuck you gonna carve some dudes head open and poke answers out of a man's brain with some fucking bug antennae? While the motherfucker is naked at that.
 
Moaradin said:
I think a lot of people look at how slow time progresses once the invasion starts and automatically assumes the pacing is bad, which I don't think is fair at all. Even though the whole invasion last like 30 minutes total, A TON of shit happens in that time. And it's never presented like Bleach or Naruto where these arcs are lasting for years in real world time but you're supposed to believe that all this shit happened during a single night, when characters are having long monologues and fighting for 40 episodes.

After the Palace Invasion, they constantly show you how quickly characters are reacting and adapting to situations, and you often didn't have long inner monologues explaining their thought process (which is why the narrator was needed here). The actual fights are QUICK. The big hyped up fights for the entire arc don't last more than a single episode.
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Yeah the "slow pacing" is just meticulously detailed bullet time breakdowns of the action. It gives weight to every step, every punch, every action.
 
I just watched that episode with Gon and Pitou yesterday and I still can't stop thinking about it. I have like 3 episodes left in the arc but I kind of just want it to get back to Gon and Killua. This arc has been absolutely amazing despite the wonky pacing.
 
antibolo said:
Hunter X Hunter is so good, it has permanently ruined all other shounen action series for me. Haven't cared about any of them ever since. They just seem shallow and dull.
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Do check out Haikyuu. I started watching it one day and ended up binging the whole show with in 2 days.
 
GaimeGuy said:
Yeah the "slow pacing" is just meticulously detailed bullet time breakdowns of the action. It gives weight to every step, every punch, every action.
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Okay. So action is slowed down to the speed of a power point presentation, while a one-note narrator is given the reins to explain to us what's happening in intricate detail. This becomes the standard storytelling device throughout the majority of the longest arc in the series. "Show, don't tell" is subverted in a fashion that can charitably be described as unique, and the ratio of character dialogue to pure exposition sinks like a stone.

An interesting shift, to be sure. I find it bizarre, though, that some people are so dismissive of the pacing issues brought up - I mean, in what world is what I described above not expected to come off as tedious to a lot of people? And not just in the "everyone has different tastes/sensitivities/etc." sense, but in the "this approach does a high-wire act in how it navigates storytelling conventions" sense. It's something that begs to be seen in light of what it achieves and the risks it takes, not as this thing that should be above reproach to reasonable people.

Personally, and I'd like to see how this changes on a second watch, I found the Chimera Ant arc fascinating, wonderful, and infuriating all at once. The narrator really, really started to get beneath my skin, and in the strangest way, that got both better and worse as the arc came to a close.
 
I'm completely fine with people not liking the style of storytelling Togashi went with. It's certainly unique and not for everyone. I will forever defend the pacing though. For how much time was literally slowed down, so much character development happened. There was constant twist and turns, and I was constantly on the edge of my seat and every episode felt like 5 minutes to me. If I watched that entire arc weekly as it came out and still felt that way, there's no way I'll ever call that bad pacing.
 
Moaradin said:
I'm completely fine with people not liking the style of storytelling Togashi went with. It's certainly unique and not for everyone. I will forever defend the pacing though. For how much time was literally slowed down, so much character development happened. There was constant twist and turns, and I was constantly on the edge of my seat and every episode felt like 5 minutes to me. If I watched that entire arc weekly as it came out and still felt that way, there's no way I'll ever call that bad pacing.
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People really need to find something new to complain about already. It's some one note nonsense at this point.
 
Can someone please tell me what's the best way to watch this show? In other words has it finished airing? Are all 148 episodes available subbed? Is the entire show available on either Crunchyroll or from VIZ on Bluray?
 
isamu said:
Can someone please tell me what's the best way to watch this show? In other words has it finished airing? Are all 148 episodes available subbed? Is the entire show available on either Crunchyroll or from VIZ on Bluray?
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All 148 episodes are on Crunchyroll and subbed. Toonami is airing the dub currently but still have a long ways to go. The manga is still ongoing but the anime ends at a satisfying spot.
 
isamu said:
Can someone please tell me what's the best way to watch this show? In other words has it finished airing? Are all 148 episodes available subbed? Is the entire show available on either Crunchyroll or from VIZ on Bluray?
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Crunchyroll has the entire series subbed but the dub is releasing weekly on Toonami and is almost to the fourth major arc. The dub is really good as well.
 
theCalamity said:
All 148 episodes are on Crunchyroll and subbed. Toonami is airing the dub currently but still have a long ways to go. The manga is still ongoing but the anime ends at a satisfying spot.
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Mr. theCalamity: Thank you kindly for the rapid response and your detailed explanation. Can't wait to watch this show!
 
HStallion said:
Crunchyroll has the entire series subbed but the dub is releasing weekly on Toonami and is almost to the fourth major arc. The dub is really good as well.
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Sounds good HStallion, thank buddy :)
 
HStallion said:
The manga is still ongoing as well but the anime finds a really good stopping point so it doesn't feel abrupt or unfinished.
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It's actually kind of amazing they didn't decide to end it on a cliffhanger designed to make you go buy the manga. Maybe the fact that only like two more volumes are out has something to do with it but it definitely adds to the fact that 2011 was a labor of love.
 
Kyuur said:
It's actually kind of amazing they didn't decide to end it on a cliffhanger designed to make you go buy the manga. Maybe the fact that only like two more volumes are out has something to do with it but it definitely adds to the fact that 2011 was a labor of love.
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Even so, I hope the new chapters get animated at some point. I want to see the creepy men beasts. I want to see THAT fight that happened last year.
 
theCalamity said:
Even so, I hope the new chapters get animated at some point. I want to see the creepy men beasts. I want to see THAT fight that happened last year.
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You are not the only one on that front. That fight needs to be animated just so it can make sense. Also yeah...the Nen Beasts need to be animated. I want to see properly animated Berserk monsters for once.
 
Tuck said:
Also,
super sayain Gon
was super fucking stupid, at least in terms of character design.
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It's appropriately shocking and perverse.
The unnatural hair. The discomfort of seeing a grown ass man wearing the clothes of what once was an innocent child. The dullness in his eyes.
 
I've always been on the other side of the fence on this arc, it wasn't bad all all means it was just okay to me; I always call it cell saga 2.0. a little drawn out and the fights other than Gon vs. Pitou and Killua vs. Youpi(although it was pretty quick and Killua didn't really "win") all the fights were pretty meh; and yes that includes Netero vs. Meruem...


i do give Togashi much respect for drawing through is illness.

I think Greed Island, Yorknew City, and even the Heavens Arena Arcs were better.
 
Man I don't get not liking the Netero Vs Meruem fight. The narrator isn't even a big part of that episode and its almost all great animation with a metric fuckton on "steaks" all on the line.
 
HStallion said:
Man I don't get not liking the Netero Vs Meruem fight. The narrator isn't even a big part of that episode and its almost all great animation with a metric fuckton on "steaks" all on the line.
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Same, I don't understand it.

"When Netero came down from the mountains... his fists were faster than sound."

and

"It was the first time the King had felt fear."

are fucking incredible, anime defining moments to me.
 
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