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LTTP: Hunter X Hunter (2011)

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It's over! 148 episodes tackled. On to the manga... I have to work in a bit, but hopefully I'll do a full write-up soon.

Ending rankings for arcs:

2nd half of Chimera Ant > Heaven's Arean > Hunter Exam > York New City > 1st half of Chimera Ant

Really, really high quality stuff.
 
It's over! 148 episodes tackled. On to the manga... I have to work in a bit, but hopefully I'll do a full write-up soon.

Ending rankings for arcs:

2nd half of Chimera Ant > Heaven's Arean > Hunter Exam > York New City > 1st half of Chimera Ant

Really, really high quality stuff.

HxH has ruined a lot of other shounen for me.
 
I'd go with
Phantom Troupe = Chimera Ant Second Half > Heaven's Arena > Dark Conteniant (so far) > Election > Chimera Ant First Half > Greed Island > Hunter Exam
 
Ranking the arcs is hard... I think the only part that actively let me down was the beginning of the Chimera Ant arc. I really wasn't feeling it.
 
The only one I didn't particularly feel that much was the very short "Zoldyck Mansion" one and most of Heaven's arena. But ultimately I'd say that the chairman election arc is the worst because I didn't like the conclusion, Alluka being able to
heal anyone without consequences
is the worst thing in the manga for me, and there's some unresolved stuff like the chimera ant eggs and whatever happened to that one dude from the trio of potential candidates that didn't get killed.

But then again, that one has Leorio punching Gin so.
 
The only one I didn't particularly feel that much was the very short "Zoldyck Mansion" one and most of Heaven's arena. But ultimately I'd say that the chairman election arc is the worst because I didn't like the conclusion, Alluka being able to
heal anyone without consequences
is the worst thing in the manga for me, and there's some unresolved stuff like the chimera ant eggs and whatever happened to that one dude from the trio of potential candidates that didn't get killed.

But then again, that one has Leorio punching Gin so.

Leorio punching Ging and Gon's recovery made that arc worth.
 
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Made me tear up
 
Genuinely surprised to see Yorknew ranked that low. I've never had an arc singlehandedly elevate my opinion of a character from "muh scarlet eyes" to "EMPEROR TIME, ARBITER OF JUDGEMENT"
 
I'll try my hand at the ranking the arcs:

Chimera Ant arc >>> Yorknew City >> Greed Island > Election arc > Heaven's Arena > Hunter Exam > Zoldyck Family arc

I love the Chimera Ant arc to death. No shonen arc touches it in my eyes. I find it too hard to rank the Dark Continent arc at this point, but the potential is there for it to be the greatest arc.
 
I'm pretty late, as well. Got about 15 eps left. This chimera ant arc has been crazy. The 2nd half at least. These last several fights are top ranking stuff. The animation quality is pretty good throughout the entire anime...

I had that thought of "this is greatness" while watching it, yesterday.
 
I'm not ranking the arcs. They were all great in their own ways.

What I'd like to do is challenge anyone to find another anime (or live action TV show for that matter) that contains as many drastically divergent arcs (complete with brand new settings) as Hunter X Hunter. I have yet to see anything compare to it.

In Hunter X Hunter, every arc could spin off into its own anime/TV show and you'd have a catalogue of shows that span a multitude of genres. What other series has accomplished something like this? I'm genuinely curious.




I can't deal with Alluka/Nanika. He's too creepy.

Come on now.
 
I've not watched too much anime but if I was able to watch 366 episodes of bleach and enjoy most of it then should I like Hunter X Hunter? Been looking for something similar for awhile but haven't enjoyed stuff like Naruto and One piece.
 
I've not watched too much anime but if I was able to watch 366 episodes of bleach and enjoy most of it then should I like Hunter X Hunter? Been looking for something similar for awhile but haven't enjoyed stuff like Naruto and One piece.

This is usually considered the king of the Shonen genre at least far as fighting Shonen go.

Edit: Also it wipes the floor with the Big 3 easily.
 
Amazing anime.

Went in after watching a clip of Meruem v Netero on YouTube (only 30 seconds worth before turning it off). Had no expectation of what to expect and was BLOWN AWAY. Absolutely adore the anime and the Manga series.

Legit tears during Meruem and Komugi's final scene and the last 10 minutes off the final episode.

Enjoy the detours in life brehs. It's there you'll truly find what you love (paraphrasing).

Gon's reunion with Ging was also just fantastic.

And the ant daughter's reunion with her mother.

God I love this anime.
 
I've not watched too much anime but if I was able to watch 366 episodes of bleach and enjoy most of it then should I like Hunter X Hunter? Been looking for something similar for awhile but haven't enjoyed stuff like Naruto and One piece.

The answer is a resounding yes! Better than all three of those shows combined!
 
I just watched all of this recently too, I really liked it. Tons of great characters and moments. I liked how unique the abilities were, which helped a lot of characters stand out. It sucks that the show ended where it did (just because I wanted more), but I think the ending is actually really good. My only real complaint is that there wasn't enough Leorio, I really liked him, but felt like he got shortchanged a bit compared to the others. Though he does have that amazing scene in the final arc that kind of makes up for it lol.
 
This is usually considered the king of the Shonen genre at least far as fighting Shonen go.

Edit: Also it wipes the floor with the Big 3 easily.
The answer is a resounding yes! Better than all three of those shows combined!
I vehemently disagree, most people who say this couldn't even give me a basic run down of Bellamy's character compelxieties/development, how it ties into Doflamingo/Luffys characters, and what it means for the themes of Dressrosa and One Piece as a whole.
Most people who say this couldn't even write me a paragraph on the non-surface level ways Arlong Park handled racism and the subtext within Arlongs character.
Most people who say this couldn't write me a post describing the three themes in Skypiea/Jaya, how they tie together, the sublties with how Oda explores them, and how he uses three specific characters and the climax of the arc to tie them together.
Most people who say this couldn't give me a run down of Gin's character, the differences between Bellamy and him, as well as how Oda dismantles Don Kreig in Baratie.
Most people who say this get fooled by Togashis wordy dialog, dark tone, and "trope" subverting to the point where they totally write off other Shonen and don't recognize the flaws within the series itself.
Oda can go toe to toe with Togashi any day, he's practically perfected storytelling in manga, the way he uses art/symbolism/panelling in conjunction with the story/dialogue is nothing short of beautiful.
Don't get thrown off by the cartoony look and tone of the series to the point where you don't even begin to give it legitimate thought.
 
Put it at the end the only good stuff was Leorio + Gon



Leorio punching Ging was better payoff than actually seeing Gon meet Ging.



Yep, time to embrace Hiatus x Hiatus
I prefer the way it flows in the manga, gets right to the point so the punch is a shock rather than the unnaturally long build up and misplaced music in the anime, took way to long for Leorio to punch the desk for the punch to get to Ging, and the actual punching was waaaay to slow.
At least in my opinion.
What's funny is Leorio literally hadn't been in the manga for a decade aside for a volume page asking "when will it be my turn", so when the spoilers dropped people thought this was fake.
Edit:sorry I accidentally double posted.
 
I vehemently disagree, most people who say this couldn't even give me a basic run down of Bellamy's character compelxieties/development, how it ties into Doflamingo/Luffys characters, and what it means for the themes of Dressrosa and One Piece as a whole.
Most people who say this couldn't even write me a paragraph on the non-surface level ways Arlong Park handled racism and the subtext within Arlongs character.
Most people who say this couldn't write me a post describing the three themes in Skypiea/Jaya, how they tie together, the sublties with how Oda explores them, and how he uses three specific characters and the climax of the arc to tie them together.
Most people who say this couldn't give me a run down of Gin's character, the differences between Bellamy and him, as well as how Oda dismantles Don Kreig in Baratie.
Most people who say this get fooled by Togashis wordy dialog, dark tone, and "trope" subverting to the point where they totally write off other Shonen and don't recognize the flaws within the series itself.
Oda can go toe to toe with Togashi any day, he's practically perfected storytelling in manga, the way he uses art/symbolism/panelling in conjunction with the story/dialogue is nothing short of beautiful.
Don't get thrown off by the cartoony look and tone of the series to the point where you don't even begin to give it legitimate thought.

I've read all 3 and honestly I regret wasting my time. Naruto was terrible after the time skip for GIGANTIC stretches. Bleach was terrible after the Soul Society and I'll be honest I never liked One Piece and after 500 episodes or so I gave up. So yeah I won't be able to mention every characters back story or minor details but that's because I gave up on One Piece and thought Bleach and Naruto were really crappy after their promising starts.
 
I've read all 3 and honestly I regret. Naruto was terrible after the time skip. Bleach was terrible after the Soul Society and I'll be honest. I never liked One Piece and after 500 episodes or so I gave up. So yeah I won't be able to mention every characters back story or minor details but that's because I gave up on the tripe.
Watched?
How about you try to read it?
I mean it certainly has it's flaws and I can certainly see why someone wouldn't enjoy it, Oda isn't for everyone.
Hell, I'm of the opinion One Piece has been downhill since the end of Dressrosa,but I'd say it's worth a chance in the source material.
 
Watched?
How about you try to read it?
I mean it certainly has it's flaws and I can certainly see why someone wouldn't enjoy it, Oda isn't for everyone.
Hell, I'm of the opinion One Piece has been downhill since the end of Dressrosa,but I'd say it's worth a chance in the source material.

I've read all 3. Naruto the entire stupid fucking thing. Bleach I read for probably two/thirds before realizing the story was just fucking nonsense and One Piece I was never a huge fan of. I stuck with it just because I enjoyed some of the characters like Zoro but I felt like Naruto and the rest it just got too be too much. I like long ass mangas but the content wasn't nearly enough to justify the length. Even Hajime No Ippo which I much prefer to all those has serious issues with this at times. One thing I appreciate about HxH is that each arc is like its own series as others have mentioned. I didn't think I'd ever watch another series about a card game again and here I am in Greed Island not only doing that but enjoying it. The dodgeball helped as well.

Edit: I'm also probably being a bit too hard here but I was enamored by both Naruto and Bleach at the start but man did they go down so fast that I'm a bit bitter, then the authors just dragged it out forever. I may give One Piece a reread from the beginning and give it another chance but I have spoiled a lot of the later events for myself when I checked back in on the series now and again.
 
I've read all 3. Naruto the entire stupid fucking thing. Bleach I read for probably two/thirds before realizing the story was just fucking nonsense and One Piece I was never a huge fan of. I stuck with it just because I enjoyed some of the characters like Zoro but I felt like Naruto and the rest it just got too be too much. I like long ass mangas but the content wasn't nearly enough to justify the length. Even Hajime No Ippo which I much prefer to all those has serious issues with this at times. One thing I appreciate about HxH is that each arc is like its own series as others have mentioned. I didn't think I'd ever watch another series about a card game again and here I am in Greed Island not only doing that but enjoying it. The dodgeball helped as well.

Edit: I'm also probably being a bit too hard here but I was enamored by both Naruto and Bleach at the start but man did they go down so fast that I'm a bit bitter, then the authors just dragged it out forever. I may give One Piece a reread from the beginning and give it another chance but I have spoiled a lot of the later events for myself when I checked back in on the series now and again.
Oh man Greed Island is one of my least favorite arcs in fiction, there's a fine line between using an inventive concept and making sure to go through it with methodical detail, and what Togashi did with Greed Island imo, I've never been so bored reading a manga as then.
And none of the characters compelled me, the best part of it for me, was the dark place Togashi was willing to push the common Shonen protagonists willingness to wreck their body for their cause.
But otherwise the arc was essentially solitary confinement.
 
The Election Arc was so good, but it helps that Pariston is one of the greatest characters of all time.

I didn't like him at first but what he did in the end was hilarious. Poor Cheadle.

I've not watched too much anime but if I was able to watch 366 episodes of bleach and enjoy most of it then should I like Hunter X Hunter? Been looking for something similar for awhile but haven't enjoyed stuff like Naruto and One piece.

Bleach etc are really poor compared to Hunter x Hunter, in my opinion. Togashi actually knows how to write meaningful characters.
 
I didn't like him at first but what he did in the end was hilarious. Poor Cheadle.



Bleach etc are really poor compared to Hunter x Hunter, in my opinion. Togashi actually knows how to write meaningful characters.
Ichigo is one of the worst protagonist's in history, he's literally nothing, any foundation and possibly avenues Kubo layed for Ichigo at the beginning of the series were erased.
Not to mention how Kubo kept bringing up Ichigos lack of ambition/goals and how it conflicted with his talent throughout the series as if it would actually go somewhere development wise but never actually did anything with it for some inexplicable reason.
So now we've reached the end of the series and there's literally nothing to look forward to for Ichigos end, and he had no real stakes in the arcs resolution.
At least Naruto had becoming Hokage, even the biggest haters such as myself had some modicum of care for that.
 
The answer is a resounding yes! Better than all three of those shows combined!

Lol. This is good but the fighting aspect is so secundary, it can't possibly compete with OP for example, even though the nen system is so layered and rich.

I mean, chimera ant could be the best shonen arc, but the fighting aspect is so lackluster. I really want to read someone defending the king vs netero as a good shonen fight, because it was just... Nothing? No emotional stakes in play, no real purpose, we just learned Meruem is too intelligent. I mean, it didn't even use nen in clever ways, useless.
 
I've not watched too much anime but if I was able to watch 366 episodes of bleach and enjoy most of it then should I like Hunter X Hunter? Been looking for something similar for awhile but haven't enjoyed stuff like Naruto and One piece.

Not only is it better than those shows, but its also better than Dragon Ball, Yu Yu Hakusho and is probably on par with JoJo (though JoJo is on a whole new level of its own).
 
It's over! 148 episodes tackled. On to the manga... I have to work in a bit, but hopefully I'll do a full write-up soon.

Ending rankings for arcs:

2nd half of Chimera Ant > Heaven's Arean > Hunter Exam > York New City > 1st half of Chimera Ant

Really, really high quality stuff.

Greed Island so bad it's not even in your ranking, lmao.
 
I vehemently disagree, most people who say this couldn't even give me a basic run down of Bellamy's character compelxieties/development, how it ties into Doflamingo/Luffys characters, and what it means for the themes of Dressrosa and One Piece as a whole.
Most people who say this couldn't even write me a paragraph on the non-surface level ways Arlong Park handled racism and the subtext within Arlongs character.
Most people who say this couldn't write me a post describing the three themes in Skypiea/Jaya, how they tie together, the sublties with how Oda explores them, and how he uses three specific characters and the climax of the arc to tie them together.
Most people who say this couldn't give me a run down of Gin's character, the differences between Bellamy and him, as well as how Oda dismantles Don Kreig in Baratie.
Most people who say this get fooled by Togashis wordy dialog, dark tone, and "trope" subverting to the point where they totally write off other Shonen and don't recognize the flaws within the series itself.
Oda can go toe to toe with Togashi any day, he's practically perfected storytelling in manga, the way he uses art/symbolism/panelling in conjunction with the story/dialogue is nothing short of beautiful.
Don't get thrown off by the cartoony look and tone of the series to the point where you don't even begin to give it legitimate thought.

I don't think anyone's being 'fooled' by anything. I know this may come as a shock to you, but some people may simply just prefer Togashi's style of storytelling and world building. No need for some deep analysis as if there were some objectively right or wrong way to tell a story.

I went ahead and watched the first couple episodes on crunchyroll and I'm already enjoying it.

I'm glad that you're enjoying it from the beginning, but I encourage you to stick with it because the story continues to drastically evolve over time.
 
Story, pacing, fight scenes, animation, character designs, thematic and emotional resonance, it's smarter both in how the characters make their decisions, and the points Togashi makes when writing, I could go on.
What story?
Individual arcs or overarching because Togashi doesn't have a real overarching story, just individual arcs we want to see play out.
Anyways I'd definitely take One Piece's overall story over Hunter X Hunter, but when we get into individual arcs it gets a little trickier.

Fight scenes?
Undeniably from a strategy sense, so I won't blame anyone for preferring them, but I prefer the more fist to fist style Oda has and love his art/coregraphy, I'll take the ideological conflict with emotional high points a Kreig vs Luffy over much of Hunter and day,it's romantic.

Character designs?
Overall I'm taking OP character designs, Oda hasn't put out anything I consider as abysmal as the Zodiacs designs, and a large portion of his side characters designs bore me, which isn't to say they need to be wacky to interest me, they just don't hit me.

Thematic and emotional resonance, emotional resonance is definitely the more subjective of the two.
Themes? Eh, the only way I could see someone saying this is if they haven't grasped the overall themes of One Piece and the individual arcs, Oda's a master of bringing themes home with a single point and he does it arc after arc imo, like with the ringing of the bell in Skypiea and how it ties up the three overarching themes.
Write about what you consider it to be in Hunter and I'll respond with an analysis in One Piece so we could compare the two.

Smarter? It's certainly the more detailed of the two as to thought processes and strategy, but where I can see One Piece relying on vase character traits and impulse too much, I can see Togashi getting stuck in his head and making the characters seem too cold/detached, as well as forgetting he's working with a visual medium so everything doesn't have to be a novel, and that there's such a thing as too much detail.
In all honesty I see them both striking a fair balance.

What points that Togashi makes while writing?
I don't think anyone's being 'fooled' by anything. I know this may come as a shock to you, but some people may simply just prefer Togashi's style of storytelling and world building. No need for some deep analysis as if there were some objectively right or wrong way to tell a story.



I'm glad that you're enjoying it from the beginning, but I encourage you to stick with it because the story continues to drastically evolve over time.
I'm not saying there isn't much to prefer in Hunter X Hunter over One Piece, and I don't believe One Piece is a better series and vice versa, but through my experience, as my post wasn't necessarily aimed at you, Hunter X Hunter comes off as much more "intelligent" and "deep" on the surface in contrast with the much more traditionally Shonen goofy One Piece so certain groups don't actually give it real thought, which becomes clear in discussions with them on the two series.
 
Lol. This is good but the fighting aspect is so secundary, it can't possibly compete with OP for example, even though the nen system is so layered and rich.

I mean, chimera ant could be the best shonen arc, but the fighting aspect is so lackluster. I really want to read someone defending the king vs netero as a good shonen fight, because it was just... Nothing? No emotional stakes in play, no real purpose, we just learned Meruem is too intelligent. I mean, it didn't even use nen in clever ways, useless.

Fighting being secondary doesn't make Hunter X Hunter inferior to One Piece, it helps it in being more cerebral and engaging, imo. I like knowing the thought processes and overall atmosphere of a given moment more than always having fight scenes.

As for Netero vs Meruem, my response to your criticism is that it's not always what you show/tell but how you show/tell it that can make a scene compelling. I enjoyed their fight because it was presented in a way where you fully understood the degree of power these characters were capable of wielding against each other. Even a single action from both characters carried a ton of weight due understanding their potential. This would not be possible if the level of detail regarding these characters had not been as great as it was.

I'm not saying there isn't much to prefer in Hunter X Hunter over One Piece, and I don't believe One Piece is a better series and vice versa, but through my experience, as my post wasn't necessarily aimed at you, Hunter X Hunter comes off as much more "intelligent" and "deep" on the surface in contrast with the much more traditionally Shonen goofy One Piece so certain groups don't actually give it real thought, which becomes clear in discussions with them on the two series.

Ah, OK. I understand.

Anyway, I prefer Togashi's heavy narration. It gives you the kind of detailed story telling that typically only happens in books. It's the best of both worlds.
 
This post has made me want to jump in. At episode five on Crunchy roll. After that is there more elsewhere for me to watch?
 
I'm glad that you're enjoying it from the beginning, but I encourage you to stick with it because the story continues to drastically evolve over time.

I'm eleven episodes in now and loving it. I'd heard the early stuff wasn't that great and it gets better twenty something episodes in but If I'm already enjoying it now I can't wait to see what comes later. I also took the time to look at the 99 version since it's on youtube. I really like the style of the old one. Seems a bit more atmospheric than the 2011 version. I might watch it after I finish this version. It seems episode 16 of the original lines up with what I just finished. It was interesting to see two different versions of the same scenario.

This post has made me want to jump in. At episode five on Crunchy roll. After that is there more elsewhere for me to watch?

The whole thing is on crunchyroll as far as I can tell. Seems the show has 148 episodes.
 
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