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[Zeouterlimits]

Both games are vastly mediocre. The first being alright and the second damn near unplayable. Overall Insomniac is overrated. Ratchet, despite being good, has been the same old shit, every year, since 2002. Still, I have some hope for R3 and their new IP.

Very glad I'm not the only one to think this. I really tried to enjoy Fall of Man & RC:Tools of Destruction, but they felt so... middling to me.

 

[Stallion Free]

Can someone explain this screenshot to me please?

Rather than making a ground texture themselves, they thought they could get away with using a Google maps image of the area for the ground instead. Not only does it look horrible, it also still has the Google watermarks all over it. Fucking shameful.

 

[Callibretto]

I don't understand why people like you need to force yourself into a thread where the OP says it isn't good to say what you just posted.

It was a terrible sequel that failed on many fronts.

I actually think the movement and aiming feel much better than Resistance 1, environment have more variety and the atmosphere can be pretty damn good/creepy. and I enjoy the story and universe with the hidden document you collect. too bad that 2 weapon system, questionable AI, and shallow boss battles make repeat playthrough quickly lose it's impact. but for my first playthrough. I had a lot of fun. beat it in a weekend.

R1 is a great game. R2 is flawed and average, but nowhere near horrible or bad. I've played a lot worse fps than R2.

I do understand people disappointed by it, I'm disappointed too with R2, I can only hope longer development time can make R3 great again.

 

[jax (old)]

It's mediocre because it was incredibly generic and by the numbers. The AI wasn't anything to be impressed by and the reasons the standards were lower back then were because you had nothing else to compare to on the platform.

A good FPS can overcome "today's standards" and hold up well. See: Doom 1/2.

I really liked resistance 1.

weapon wheel.

distinctive different atmosphere/world. sort of scary

vehicular bits worked

scifiy weapons made it very different playing.


I enjoyed it.



R2 is garbage.

 

[Anticitizen One]

That's kind of why the first game still holds up. It's a different experience from most FPS titles on the market these days. R2 attempted to become Halo and failed miserably while the first game was created much more in the mold of older PC fps titles.

Resistance 1 seemed like Sony went to insomniac and asked them to make a game like Halo. The vehicular combat in the game felt so forced.

 

[Garjon]

I also enjoyed Resistance 1 partly because I had nothing else to play but also because it was actually good fun and devlishly hard in places. The weapons helped to add a surprising amount of depth as it meant that there were many ways to approach each situation. R2 was disappointing because they took away the health system and weapon wheel in favour of set-pieces and highly scripted battles, which took away a lot of the depth and choice. And that's before you get to what they did to the game's multiplayer - obnoxious spawning, glitches, map chokepoints and fewer modes than the original. It was still okay overall though, mainly because of the insanely addictive co-op mode.

I'm definitely eager for R3 though. Insomniac will have no doubt taken on board the complaints of the second iteration; this plus the extra time they're taking on development should lead to a much better game.

 

[Square Triangle]

I loved Resistance 2's multiplayer but yeah the SP was horrid, one of this gens biggest disappointments. =/ Hopefully Insomniac is really considering everything the fan's issues.

 

[Infinity]

It felt like a shooter on training wheels. I didn't care for the story, the final boss battle was a joke. And as for the screenshot that was posted: /agree it was bad.

I went into it thinking I would like it. :lol

 

[Dirtyshubb]

I don't understand why people like you need to force yourself into a thread where the OP says it isn't good to say what you just posted.

It was a terrible sequel that failed on many fronts.

:lol

I could understand your response if I came into the thread saying that anyone who thought the game was crap was an idiot or something but all I was doing was stating my legitimate lack of understanding for the hatred the game gets, and its not like majority of people who hate the game come out with a list of examples and their reasoning behind it they just tend to slag it off as if it ate their baby or something.

 

[Gong]

This will probably only make sense to UK GAF, but this is how I remember Resistance 2:

 

[dark10x]

Resistance 1 seemed like Sony went to insomniac and asked them to make a game like Halo. The vehicular combat in the game felt so forced.

...and aspects of it were like Halo, but it definitely had its own identity. I prefer Halo for sure, but Resistance is a very fun little game with a bit of an old school vibe. Resistance 2 actually tried to emulate all facets of Halo and ended up failing as a result.

 

[Cornbread78]

Damn haters. Yes, we can all admit it had some errors/issues but damn, I had so many hours of fun playing R1 and R2 with my buddies online, Co-opp was mindless but fun, $hit even my wife really got into playing co-opp. I can't wait for R3, hopefully the support for the game is much better this time!

 

[ElyrionX]

If it was multiplatform, R1 and R2 wouldn't have got 90% of the praise they did. I can see the appeal of KZ2 (though I don't like it personally) but R1 and R2 are the most generic and bland shooters I've played this gen. Admittedly, I've kept myself to the AAA rated stuff this gen but R1 and R2 are not even in the league of the first Halo which was released 10 years ago. And I even think Halo as a series is massively overrated but Resistance even more so.

 

[snap0212]

The only thing that kept me from finishing R2 was the fact that no matter how many of your team mates are on screen, enemies will only attack you. I hope this gets fixed in the next game.

 

[War Machine]

Why would you force yourself to play a video game?

 

[Sanic]

http://www.vertigogaming.net/HUD/resistance2pic3.jpg[IMG]

never forget.[/QUOTE]

Wow.

 

[To Far Away Times]

Resistance manages to be more generic than the average FPS game, and that's a pretty big accomplishment.

 

[Stallion Free]

If it was multiplatform, R1 and R2 wouldn't have got 90% of the praise they did.

That is completely true.

 

[_Alkaline_]

Holy shit is that screenshot real? :lol

I've gotta play this game now.

 

[BobsRevenge]

Now force yourself to play the horrible versus mode and then play the sup-par, but decent co-op mode.

Both of those modes were actually awesome.

 

[Dipswitch]

I just finished the first Resistance a few weeks back and was shocked at how mediocre it was. It was an utter chore to play, from start to finish.

And based upon the consensus that the second game sucked compared to the first, I think I'm all done with the series. Shame really - the idea had promise.

 

[MrPliskin]

Never before in the history of a thread has my ignore list grown so rapidly. Thanks for making the thread OP :lol

 

[Relix]

I forced myself and stopped. Its full of BS and not entertaining at later levels. It was fine, and fun, up until the Leviathan battle. After that? Total. Shitfest.

Never before in the history of a thread has my ignore list grown so rapidly. Thanks for making the thread OP :lol

Hey look, people have differing opinions from me. Let me block them so I don't have to use my mind and look for a counter argument!

 

[electroshockwave]

Rather than making a ground texture themselves, they thought they could get away with using a Google maps image of the area for the ground instead. Not only does it look horrible, it also still has the Google watermarks all over it. Fucking shameful.

I have only played a few levels from Resistance 2, and I didn't play this level, but I'm certain that the Google logos are photoshopped in. Have you even played R2? Or the first game for that matter, considering you're spewing so much hate towards it?

 

[Relix]

I have only played a few level from Resistance 2, and I didn't play this level, but I'm certain that the Google logos are photoshopped in. Have you even played R2? Or the first game for that matter, considering you're spewing so much hate towards it?

I don't remember seeing watermarks at that level. And I did look carefully because I had seen pictures in GAF of that level :lol :lol Awful boss battle too

 

[MrPliskin]

I forced myself and stopped. Its full of BS and not entertaining at later levels. It was fine, and fun, up until the Leviathan battle. After that? Total. Shitfest.



Hey look, people have differing opinions from me. Let me block them so I don't have to use my mind and look for a counter argument!

Why exactly would I want to argue anything with someone of a different opinion? Minds don't change :lol I enjoyed the game, other people didn't. I'm not going to ruin my GAF experience by reading the thoughts of people who are obviously trolling, using hyperbole, or just flat out elitist. There are legit complaints in the game, but many people here are just here to troll and have fun, so they go on my ignore list. Simple as

Edit: And before anyone twists my words, I'm not talking about everyone. The only folks who went on my list (as if anyone truly gives a shit) were the folks who I feel don't warrant discussion / replies. Obviously not everyone here is a troll etc.

 

[Relix]

Why exactly would I want to argue anything with someone of a different opinion? Minds don't change :lol I enjoyed the game, other people didn't. I'm not going to ruin my GAF experience by reading the thoughts of people who are obviously trolling, using hyperbole, or just flat out elitist. There are legit complaints in the game, but many people here are just here to troll and have fun, so they go on my ignore list. Simple as

*looks at Avatar* You are R2 biased =P. I really liked the shooting mechanics since it was fast paced and it had so much potential I think, but hit the that town level which I absolutely forgot the name and the game just... Aaaargh. All that awesomeness, thrown out of the window. I still plan on beating it someday (I got so disappointed I just stopped playing) but for now, meh.

MP is fun as hell though

 

[BriareosGAF]

Why would you force yourself to play a video game?

Because you work in the industry and it's your job to see what the competition is up to? Currently forcing myself to play the abysmally awful SP campaign in Halo: Reach for the same reason.

That said, I enjoyed R2's co-op mode a bunch, it was great fun when you managed to force back a huge swarm of goldies and what not with a bunch of your buddies working in tight coordination. Some of the levels could have used a few more passes to improve their readability/flow, but it was still pretty fun. Couldn't get past the first few levels of the SP, though.

 

[MrPliskin]

*looks at Avatar* You are R2 biased =P. I really liked the shooting mechanics since it was fast paced and it had so much potential I think, but hit the that town level which I absolutely forgot the name and the game just... Aaaargh. All that awesomeness, thrown out of the window. I still plan on beating it someday (I got so disappointed I just stopped playing) but for now, meh.

MP is fun as hell though

I am, and I certainly won't pretend that I'm not :lol If ever I could be called a fanboy, it would be for the Resistance franchise. I'm not saying R2 was perfect, but I've said my peace, there's no need for me to reply to each and every R2 shitfest hate thread that pops up. It's borderline childish, IMO.

Whenever I see threads like this harping on a game year after year, I can't help but think of 40 year old comic junkies sitting in their basement writing fan fiction to correct the wrongs of some publisher :lol

No offense to anyone in the thread, btw (though most will obviously take some, which is understandable, it's a jerk thing to say).

 

[Erasus]

I ordered this (and mini ninjas) yesterday because I like RE1 and RE2 got good reviews. Sounds like I am up for dissapointment :S Also I completed KZ2 for a 2nd time today, wich is one of the best fps games I have played.

 

[Pandaman]

You can't be serious

Those google logos are photoshopped right?:lol

I have seen that screenshot a few times but only now just noticed the google watermarks :lol how the hell did that pass into the game for retail?

Are the google watermarks real? Bloody hell.

Besides that, I thought the game was fine when I played it.

Wow, those watermarks were in the game? I never noticed that :lol thats really bad. You know someone got fired for that.

Rather than making a ground texture themselves, they thought they could get away with using a Google maps image of the area for the ground instead. Not only does it look horrible, it also still has the Google watermarks all over it. Fucking shameful.

Wow.

Holy shit is that screenshot real? :lol

I've gotta play this game now.

and this is how it starts. :lol
smh gaf, those logos are an obvious shop.
plus i remember the thread where the image was posted.

 

[Edeuinu]

Huge FPS fan, didn't like either. 0 hype for R3.

 

[Stallion Free]

I have only played a few levels from Resistance 2, and I didn't play this level, but I'm certain that the Google logos are photoshopped in. Have you even played R2? Or the first game for that matter, considering you're spewing so much hate towards it?

I have played Resistance 1 twice and and am half way through 2 at the moment.

 

[Mr. B Natural]

That is completely true.

I think it's more developer pedigree then being on the ps3. You see it all the time. Games get passes because it's made by ______, and ______ doesn't make bad games. We like ______. We're excited to play _____'s new game. So excited (hype) that we create a self-fulfilled prophecy about the quality of _____'s game. Then the tons of commercials and media about _____'s game influences us more as we are already susceptible to _____'s charm.

I think i've posted this 100 times now but it needs to be said again -

The formula for being overrated/can't get lower than a 7 and working up from there with reviewers and most hardcore gamers is:

1. Hype/marketing (money)
2. Developer pedigree (nostalgia)
3. Production value (money)
4. Being a well known IP (nostalgia)

Resistence didn't have number 4, but they had the rest going for them in spades. It's the same reason why Doom 3 didn't get shat on, which was on PC and had better games going for it 10 years ago. I'm playing Alan Wake right now and what is that game doing with a 80+ metacritic? Oh wait, the game had hype, it's got pedigree, it's got production values (supposedly).

I can predict game scores very easily and anyone can. All you have to do is rate the hype. If the hype is low, chances the score is low or at least varies wildly. Hype is high - score is high. Resistance 2's hype was in the 8's and 9's at release day and thus that's where it stands. I guess you can argue that the hype was pushed up a notch because it was a ps3 exclusive, BUT I can kinda argue that it could have been diminished just as easily by the majority that had no ps3 and thus no interest in the game and diminished by the negative rap the ps3 had at the time. It can go both ways when you talk exclusives to the system that was in last place and generally unpopular in the console warz. There are more common and powerful factors involved when it comes to getting people to think a game is great before they even put it in the disc tray.

 

[Cornbread78]

Because you work in the industry and it's your job to see what the competition is up to? Currently forcing myself to play the abysmally awful SP campaign in Halo: Reach for the same reason.

That said, I enjoyed R2's co-op mode a bunch, it was great fun when you managed to force back a huge swarm of goldies and what not with a bunch of your buddies working in tight coordination. Some of the levels could have used a few more passes to improve their readability/flow, but it was still pretty fun. Couldn't get past the first few levels of the SP, though.

as I said before, Co-Opp was a great way to break up long MP grinds. We had some of our best laughs in Co-Opp, strickly because the group I played with had many guys on top of the leadersboards and they worked so hard to be one of the most competative clans out there, that it was needed to have a little fun and not have to stratagize. I wish that Insomniac supported the Co-Opp with moe DLC or just straight missions though...

 

[VGChampion]

I'm still surprised so many people don't like this game. I thought it was a huge step forward compared to the first game. Reminded me a lot like Halo CE.

 

[Alex Connolly]

I've got it coming in via mail, very intrigued to see what the backlash was all about. I found the first game quite unique, perhaps simply due to it being well-outside the zeitgeist of what console shooters had become when it dropped. It was much faster than I was expecting, which was a pleasant surprise. It had this somewhat arcade sensibility.

I'm not picky in the graphical department, and if the game has some interesting features, I'm sure I'll have a good time with R2. It might be some sort of underdog defense reaction, but the fact that a lot of people rag on it automatically made it more interesting for me. :lol

 

[luxarific]

I enjoyed R2 more than R1. Here's hoping the dull narrator in R1 stays away from R3 as well.

 

[Cornbread78]

I've got it coming in via mail, very intrigued to see what the backlash was all about. I found the first game quite unique, perhaps simply due to it being well-outside the zeitgeist of what console shooters had become when it dropped. It was much faster than I was expecting, which was a pleasant surprise. It had this somewhat arcade sensibility.

I'm not picky in the graphical department, and if the game has some interesting features, I'm sure I'll have a good time with R2. It might be some sort of underdog defense reaction, but the fact that a lot of people rag on it automatically made it more interesting for me. :lol

First thing you'll notice the CoD & Halo'esque gameplay, then everything else is different, it wasn't R1 anymore, that was the root of everyone's complaints: It wasn't R1....

 

[Alex Connolly]

First thing you'll notice the CoD & Halo'esque gameplay, then everything else is different, it wasn't R1 anymore, that was the root of everyone's complaints: It wasn't R1....

You make me even more curious, sir!

I quite like the Resistance universe, so if it retains the ambience in some way, I'll be happy...but it's such a constant source of GAF's consternation that I've got to do my own research to see where hearts were broken and big pitchers of disappointment were guzzled.

 

[Kittonwy]

U guyz stop trollin teh game, don't get so much hate on R2, lookee my ignore list its GROWIN.
<3 u Ted Price. ~_~ ~_~ ~_~
Comata tortondo buy me beer jstevenson!
IB4 kittonwy w/ ur hdr self-shadowin ssao.
etc, etc.


Seriously we all need to move past the anger stage at some point, the game was released 2 yrs ago.

 

[Tomasooie]

Every time I enter a Resistance hate thread people comments get stupider and stupider.

He said almost pre-Half-Life, and I agree. Played through the demo a while ago and it is just embarrassingly mediocre. Not to knock on Half-Life -- it's still excellent.

 

[Cornbread78]

U guyz stop trollin teh game, don't get so much hate on R2, lookee my ignore list its GROWIN.
<3 u Ted Price. ~_~ ~_~ ~_~
Comata tortondo buy me beer jstevenson!
IB4 kittonwy w/ ur hdr self-shadowin ssao.
etc, etc.


Seriously we all need to move past the anger stage at some point, the game was released 2 yrs ago.

Good luck with that one sir. Too many irrationals...:lol

 

[scitek]

Play it on easy and it's a blast in single player. True story. I had a lot of fun with it, but I totally see where peoples' complaints lie. There are quite a few improvements that could have been made.

 

[MrPliskin]

U guyz stop trollin teh game, don't get so much hate on R2, lookee my ignore list its GROWIN.
<3 u Ted Price. ~_~ ~_~ ~_~
Comata tortondo buy me beer jstevenson!
IB4 kittonwy w/ ur hdr self-shadowin ssao.
etc, etc.


Seriously we all need to move past the anger stage at some point, the game was released 2 yrs ago.

You should lead by example then :lol

 

[Felix Lighter]

Was Resistance 2 the catalyst for the end of the Insomniac "1 game a year policy"?

 

[msdstc]

Come on now. I definitely wasn't a huge fan of the game especially the online, which was lazy... clearly just tacked on. That being said, besides the utter dissapointment, the game was tolerable, just didn't live up to the first one in any respect.

 

[Cornbread78]

Was Resistance 2 the catalyst for the end of the Insomniac "1 game a year policy"?

From all indications, YES! R2 could have really used some polish.

 

[jax (old)]

R2's problem wasn't just technical


oh wait. you're in lousiana in a house

then you're in chicago

then you're somewhere else - google earth map olkaholma?

then you're in a swamp

then you're in a forest

then you're in a spaceship


Just a bad game, made all the worse by multiple factors. And not just polish. I don't see how anyone can defend it.

the narrative didn't even support the criss crossing of the USA. At least the UK campaign sort of made sense.

 

[Windom Earle]

I didn't even make it beyond the first 30 minutes. You're a brave man!