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LTTP: Saints Row IV (People really think this is better than GTA V?)

how often do you boot up SRIV to go on a rampage and see how long you survive against cops or race or just drive around?

Not at all, but I could actually tolerate SRIV long enough to beat it. It does get a little old when it asks you to do a bunch of busywork midway through.

Running from the cops and racing in GTAV loses its luster after a couple of hours.

I haven't been able to give SR2 a real chance. It runs like crap on PC and the controls are bound weirdly (I know there's a GOG version, but I'm not sure how I feel about buying it again). I really liked SR3. It's kind of tongue in cheek/self aware with how overboard the humor is, so it doesn't rub off as try-hard so much as completely flippantly stupid.

Edit: These Crackdown comparisons are apt. It really did scratch that itch.
 
Saints Row IV is probably one of the three or four best superhero games that I've ever played. At that point, the series is just too different from GTA and really, the games shouldn't be compared. I like them both about equally, and for different reasons.

Volition nailed what it should feel like to be a superhero. Dashing up a building and then launching a super-jump off the lip of it and into the horizon is one of the best feelings in games, period. I'd compare it to Crackdown more than anything; it felt like what Crackdown 2 should have been.
 
Saints Row games have such fun coop. I played Saints Row 2 twice coop. Played 3,4 and Gat out of Hell coop. Just pure fun. Even doing all trophies isn't that bad. Only open world game before Saints Row 2,3,4 I had fun playing coop was Crackdown.
 
Not at all, but I could actually tolerate SRIV long enough to beat it. It does get a little old when it asks you to do a bunch of busywork midway through.

Running from the cops and racing in GTAV loses its luster after a couple of hours.

I haven't been able to give SR2 a real chance. It runs like crap on PC and the controls are bound weirdly (I know there's a GOG version, but I'm not sure how I feel about buying it again). I really liked SR3. It's kind of tongue in cheek/self aware with how overboard the humor is, so it doesn't rub off as try-hard so much as completely flippantly stupid.

i disagree but can't hate on it. the writing style between the two titles is pretty different and I can definitely see why SRIV resonates with people more than GTAV. i think it could be a much stronger game if its mission structure and overall design was as well designed as its story; it's why I like SRII so much. It's still surprisingly bleak at times but the universal, the missions and the activities are designed well against it. I don't understand why the POTUS in SRIV would engage in fraud or mayhem or any of the other side missions whereas with I/II, it didn't make sense either but it made a lil' more sense when considering everything else.

but i guess the completely flippantly stupid thing makes sense as the series progressed. they went for fun factor 100%. whereas GTA fluctuates between totally stupid (all fun factor) and kinda stupid but grounded (80% fun factor). I will say that switching to first person with no hud and going on a police chase in GTAV is unrivaled; nothing comes close. hopping on fences, stealing cars, hiding in an alley, running and ducking off to where the chopper's snipers can't hit you, etc. is something i can't get from any other game.

I forgot they had cops in SRIII/IV and it's so easy to level up health and powerups that most enemies aren't a threat.

I've died 3 times in Gat out of Hell and all three were for achievements. Idk if i ever died in SRIII/IV and I've died several times in GTA, but never been arrested.


to your edit: I can see the crackdown comparisons, at least with crackdown 1 where you can get so easily overpowered before the end of the game that the rest of it is easy to blow through. idk if that's because of side missions allowing upgrades with ease or what. i do know that any games with collections designed around your overall strength/ability end up having all of those collectables in really easy to find/get to spots which leads to upgrading early (agility in crackdown iirc and literally everything in saints row IV/GooH.
 
Yeah, SRIV and Gat are Kirby-easy. SR3 probably was too, but I remember dying a few times.

My problem with GTA's writing is that it's too navel-gazing. It pats itself on the back almost immediately for its character irony and sophomore jabs at capitalism whenever a character is decided to become hyper-aware. And when these quips happen they all kind of sound like Dan Houser. Upon replaying Red Dead Redemption it bugged me there too. Maybe I've just outgrown it. Many of the missions are very similar to ones we've been doing since GTA3. idk
 
Yeah, SRIV and Gat are Kirby-easy. SR3 probably was too, but I remember dying a few times.

My problem with GTA's writing is that it's too navel-gazing. It pats itself on the back almost immediately for its character irony and sophomore jabs at capitalism whenever a character is decided to become hyper-aware. And when these quips happen they all kind of sound like Dan Houser. Upon replaying Red Dead Redemption it bugged me there too. Maybe I've just outgrown it. Many of the missions are very similar to ones we've been doing since GTA3. idk

i feel differently but i can see that complaint. i've seen a lot of posters react negatively to the way GTA V handles satire and the like but i still think it's above and beyond 99% of games even when it's overhanded. i also disagree with the mission structure. i feel like while GTAV is less opened with how you can finish a mission, it deviates a fair amount from traditional mission structure in a few ways, be it heists or the multi-layered approaches that comes with having 3 characters to some missions. it definitely could have been done better, but this feels like something they're gonna build upon for series coming after.
 
You're certainly welcome to compare apples to oranges, but acting surprised why someone considers one better than the other is a losing battle. It's simply a matter of taste.

I can only speak for myself, but at no point of playing SR IV was I trying to compare the game to the GTA series. If you want to tell me that GTAV's open world is significantly more impressive on a technical level, sure no arguments here. But as to which game did I have more fun playing? Honestly, I enjoyed my time with both and never felt the need to tell myself one was "better" than the other. I love that GTA exists in this world. I also love that some group of people were crazy enough to put a series like Saints Row together.

Also sounds like you were playing SR IV on the consoles. I played a bit of the Xbox One version and that version runs nowhere near as good as it should (it was done by High Voltage, the same studio responsible for the initially subpar MK X PC release). It's a much smoother experience on a decent PC.
 
You're certainly welcome to compare apples to oranges, but acting surprised why someone considers one better than the other is a losing battle. It's simply a matter of taste.

I can only speak for myself, but at no point of playing SR IV was I trying to compare the game to the GTA series. If you want to tell me that GTAV's open world is significantly more impressive on a technical level, sure no arguments here. But as to which game did I have more fun playing? Honestly, I enjoyed my time with both and never felt the need to tell myself one was "better" than the other. I love that GTA exists in this world. I also love that some group of people were crazy enough to put a series like Saints Row together.

SR and GTA were direct competitors for 2 out of4 games (on the SR side). they were directly compared and that competition is probably what led to SR taking the turn it did. i think the SR/GTA comparison is a lot more fair than SR/Infamous/Prototype.

also yeah, i played on XB1 and it ran noticeably bad. mainly screen tearing with sprint
 
Because of Just Cause 2 and Saints Row 4 I wasn't sure if I could enjoy a open world without awesome travel abilities. I hope the next Saints Row is fun to get from place to place. SR3 is even good with it. I remember jumping from my high rise penthouse onto the bottom road like it was nothing, but SR4 took it to a whole new level.
 
SR4 was the most fun superhero sandbox game I've ever played.

I'd never compare it to GTA V though. The two games have very little in common.
 
I love Saints Row IV, and have played through it to 100% completion (outside of the challenges) two times. I'll probably even go back, I had so much fun with it. The superpowers like super sprint and the super jump are fantastically fun, and I enjoyed finding the orbs. (Sure, those things are similar to Crackdown, but the wingsuit stuff adds a nice change.)

Being able to listen to music while completing missions was a really nice feature. The gameplay was a lot of fun, and it really sucked me in.

I was a huge fan of Saints Row: The Third as well, and it's probably my favourite in the series. I'd also bought the other two -- SR1 at launch, after reading about it in a magazine -- which I liked quite a bit, and Saints Row II at launch, which I didn't get playing until years later, after I'd finished III.

I found Saints Row II really buggy and boring.
 
Yeah people seem to have this covered. They're different things. Unfortunately after 1 was pretty much a straight rip off off GTA at the time, its always had those comparisons. Even if 2 started to go in a different direction, 3 was something else entirely, and 4 was..... well a superhero game on crack
literally at times
. Its beats out the likes of the Infamous games, Prototypes and a few others and is probably somewhere around tied with Arkham City as my fave openworld superhero game ever.

So much stupid fun, and some of the best musical queues in all of gaming. My only real gripe was
Zimo didn't make it :(

Oh, and I loved GTAV as well, but for totally different reasons
 
Setting aside for the moment that the two really are very different games and probably suffer by being compared to one another directly: I definitely enjoyed SR4 more than GTA V and given the choice to replay one or the other, I'd very likely pick Saints Row despite it being a much leaner game in terms of content and production values. Part of it is that I find GTA V's cast of characters largely repellent, and I don't really care that that's the point, it's not a nice place to spend hours of your time. Part of it is that GTA V emphasized realism in a lot of ways, which led to a certain amount of annoyance, whereas Saints Row prioritized streamlining the things people generally disliked in open-world games (getting around the world, for example) and emphasizing the fun stuff (causing mayhem, shooting everything with ridiculous weapons, flying). And part of it is that Saints Row has a goofy dance sequence and lampoons Mass Effect a lot, while GTA V makes homosexual rape jokes and makes hamfisted points about the inefficacy of torture, mostly just so they could have you torture a dude without overtly making torture porn.

I watched a lot of GTA V streams recently, and I think as a world with stuff to do in it that's not necessarily tied to its story and characters, it's a fantastic achievement. I remember playing GTA V at a friend's place months after I beat it, discovering that the game is actually so much more fun when you forget to do all the missions and just go hunting for hidden packages and letting the spontaneous dumb/hilarious shit that happens in Los Santos wash over you. And despite all my harsh words, I did enjoy my time with GTA V quite a bit. But in terms of an experience I'd want to revisit first, the answer is Saints Row IV, no question.
 
I haven't played GTAV, but SR3&4 are easily better than any other GTA game.

The Saints Row games are actually fun, unlike nearly all of what Rockstar releases.
 
Saints Row games have such fun coop. I played Saints Row 2 twice coop. Played 3,4 and Gat out of Hell coop. Just pure fun. Even doing all trophies isn't that bad. Only open world game before Saints Row 2,3,4 I had fun playing coop was Crackdown.

Yea, SR4 was a lot of fun in coop, the powers just add even more to it.
 
Saints Row is like the polar opposite of what GTA does today. GTA takes the stupid and goes all serious with it. SR takes the stupid and ramps it up to 11, never taking itself seriously. The only thing they have in common is open world city games. That was not always the case, but SR defined itself in that way through choice, so as to not be a GTA clone.
 
god i loved this game when i got it. the superpowers were so fun. flying was just amazing.

i really liked the glitch collecting sidetask, just flying around from rooftop to rooftop collecting these shimmering lights. really reminded me of dreams i've had....

i've beaten this game twice whereas i gave up on GTAIV and GTAV after a few hours. i think it's way more fun.

the health insurance scam minigame is amazing and fun and really hilarious in a surreal way.
 
Saints Row IV is just plain fun, GTA V bored me. Maybe its because i didnt like any GTA game aside from Vice City and arguably San Andreas, but i couldn´t get into it.
 
Saints Row IV was a lot of fun and made traversing an open-world a breeze. Having the ability to jump skyscrapers and basically fly eliminated the need for cars but who cares? Driving in open-world games is tedious. Loved that game.
 
Saints Row IV was such a disappointment, silly to be silly and not particularly funny either not to mention the emptiness of the city as well as the poor gameplay and performance issues.

Sainst Row 2 remains the pinacle of the franchise.
 
The multiplayer of the original saints row was the bread and butter
and yes...the avatar of my neogaf account is in fact my character I created in saints row multiplayer lol
 
I'd take Saint's Row writing and characters any day over Dan Houser's cynical and regressive South Park imitation yeesh.

I think you just made me want a South Park open world game that's more like Saints Row than GTA. I didn't like the combat controls in that South Park RPG. I doubt a open world SP would work though, especially if it's 3D. SR was funny, and is probably my top funny game series. Those games have me cracking up quite often.

Saints Row IV was by far the best game to be released in 2013.

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This is now a Saints Row appreciation thread isn't it?
 
God I hated how they called whatever button LB was the "cool shit" button or whatever in 3.

It's like, 4 canned animations of hitting people in the nards. Yes people getting hit in the junk is hysterical, the first 10 times. Then it's just stupidly tedious having to watch it every time I want to do a takedown. IT STOPS BEING COOL SHIT AFTER I NEED TO DO IT 100000000x

But it has a dubstep gun!!!!!!!!!!!??!!!!
 
It's not really though is it.

Nah. I've learned to ignore the people saying this series and GTA aren't comparable since it still manages to have more in common with GTA than Infamous or Prototype.


Random thing because idk how many people here are in the preview program with clubs and all of that, but does anyone with a XB1 copy of Gat out of Hell or IV wanna do some co-op? All finished in IV but I wanna get done co-op achievements. Same for GooH
 
I should look up how GTA5's mod scene is now. I'm still waiting to get the PC version when it's dirt cheap and they have awesome mods like San Andreas flying cars and jetpacks codes. I always summoned the jet pack, or harrier jet when I needed to travel a good enough distance.

So looking forward to seeing what we can do with the drones in Watch Dogs 2. And now I need to also look up what people were able to mod in WD1 to see if I should jump in on WD2 early or wait for a good price. I'm in no rush to play it but with it's awesome online modes I may just go ahead.
 
I have no interest at all in any modern GTA games, or most any single-player open world sandboxes really.

I enjoyed Saint's Row 3 and 4 very much though as highly entertaining, silly co-op romps, and I'd certainly buy a new iteration of it for the same purpose if they keep that focus.
 
I have no interest at all in any modern GTA games, or most any single-player open world sandboxes really.

I enjoyed Saint's Row 3 and 4 very much though as highly entertaining, silly co-op romps, and I'd certainly buy a new iteration of it for the same purpose if they keep that focus.

what's your issue with GTA? I have an idea off your posts, but still.

are you interested in agents of mayhem?
 
I'm with those that enjoyed saints row 1 and loved saints row 2 but hated anything after that.

2 was the perfect blend for me and was much more enjoyable overall than GTA IV
 
I enjoyed SR3 more than GTA4, but SR4 was a ridiculous disappointment.
You could REALLY tell it was an expansion pack fluffed up into a "full" title.

The game almost instantly trivializes itself by making Super Jump/Glide and Super Speed the very first powers you unlock, making ever getting in a vehicle again entirely pointless unless it's required for a mission objective.
 
I fail to understand why people call saints row a gta clone. Saints Row 1/2 is about the rise of a street gang gaining power, what Gta game is like that? Infact what other Gta game even has a story with gangsters involved (Other than San Andreas)

Saints Row 4 is definitely not it's own game like you say the series now is. If anything it's now more of a clone of crackdown with collecting the orbs and all that.

oh please.. Saint's Row 1 demo - press Y to steal car. They even aped the GTA control scheme.
 
No PS4 game I've played so far has crashed as much as SRIV. But when it wasn't crashing, I liked the game. I even earned the Platinum.

Gat outta hell however... Didn't like it. Dropped it in under 2 hours. I'll give it another shot someday.
 
No PS4 game I've played so far has crashed as much as SRIV. But when it wasn't crashing, I liked the game. I even earned the Platinum.

Gat outta hell however... Didn't like it. Dropped it in under 2 hours. I'll give it another shot someday.

It's the worst running game on my XB1 so I'm not surprised it runs shitty on PS4. Low quality port.

Luckily the expansion is pretty short. If you wanna get some achievements and you like the series a lot then it's worth it. Basically pointless to everyone else.
 
I'm happy I got the PC version of SR4, it runs so good and it can only get better with time and upgrades.

As for worst xbox one game, performance wise, it has to run better than APB right? Right!!?
(APB = All Points Bulletin).
 
Hated how they changed the assassination side mission in 4 it was so mindless and boring. Go to place a, kill everything with a target. Was one of my favorite things in the previous games and the setup was often fun.

The control was sooooo good. Maybe the best one ever in a open world game felt like you could do almost everything once you had all the superpowers upgrades. Don't think i ever used a vehicle outside mission you was forced into them. Kind of hated it at first because i like to customize cars in the previous games but ended up not even caring about them after a while.
 
Saints Row games have such fun coop. I played Saints Row 2 twice coop. Played 3,4 and Gat out of Hell coop. Just pure fun. Even doing all trophies isn't that bad. Only open world game before Saints Row 2,3,4 I had fun playing coop was Crackdown.

This...

The co-op aspect of these games are just fucking awesome..
 
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