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[Anasui Kishibe]

hey, that's a good idea!

first time I argue about it here, anyway

 

[Amir0x]

hahaha, you must be bathing in bliss right now

Being right all the time is like that.

I am loving the long fanfics that you've developed around shoving bullshit into Signs fifty mile deep plot holes, it is really fascinating how far people will go to explain shitty writing. I mean, you're right, what if they had some elaborate religious decree that demanded they send themselves to a super deadly planet with extremely evident signs of what kills them everywhere in hopes of harvesting something.

You should make that the next task in one of your threads. "Find a movie with an indefensible plot hole and create an elaborate fantasy explaining it away."

I'm writing mine right away, the subject will be Untraceable. Not even Diane Lane's supreme middle aged hotness can cover those holes up.

 

[Freshmaker]

I imagine anyone who has convinced themselves that an alien who can travel light years around the universe in a manageable time would not have learned what something as basic as water is probably needs a fucking break. I mean, we find water all over the place, but we are to believe these space traveling ALIENS are too stupid to have even experimented with the element? This is a basic fucking element, prevalent all over.

Also begs the question, how did they evolve? If water dissolves them, why would they even find an oxygen rich atmosphere desirable? (This would indicate a fundamental biological incompatibility with anything that walked or grew on the surface of the earth.) You'd think they'd need an ammonia lake or something on the planet they decided to slum around on.

 

[SpacLock]

Great movie.

 

[Mike Works]

I mean, you're right

I know.

 

[Amir0x]

Also begs the question, how did they evolve? If water dissolves them, why would they even find an oxygen rich atmosphere desirable? (This would indicate a fundamental biological incompatibility with anything that walked or grew on the surface of the earth.) You'd think they'd need an ammonia lake or something on the planet they decided to slum around on.

Well they were harvesting human flesh. You ever worn a necklace made of human flesh? It's to die for!

ho ho ho

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Being right all the time is like that.

I am loving the long fanfics that you've developed around shoving bullshit into Signs fifty mile deep plot holes, it is really fascinating how far people will go to explain shitty writing. I mean, you're right, what if they had some elaborate religious decree that demanded they send themselves to a super deadly planet with extremely evident signs of what kills them everywhere in hopes of harvesting something.

You should make that the next task in one of your threads. "Find a movie with an indefensible plot hole and create an elaborate fantasy explaining it away."

I'm writing mine right away, the subject will be Untraceable. Not even Diane Lane's supreme middle aged hotness can cover those holes up.

as much as you want to be right ami your view point really is the easy way to go... it really does not take any thinking at all to call the water thing stupid. Yet this this the kind of movie that gives you a window to think about things. I think the reaction is more to the hate meme that this director gets then anything else.


fanfic is a silly way to dismiss a person who has put some effort into thinking about something from more than a limited view point

I am dissapointed that you of all people are on this water vs. aliens plot hole pissing thing.


on well you don't like Animal Crossing so I don't have to worship you

 

[Freshmaker]

Well they were harvesting human flesh. You ever worn a necklace made of human flesh? It's to die for!

ho ho ho

They were led by Dolph Lundgren, universal soldier?

 

[Mike Works]

for the record, i am not a shyamalan apologist

i thought Sixth Sense was a great movie, Unbreakable was underrated, Signs is my favorite of his, The Village was a big letdown at the end, Lady in the Water was just god awful, and I will probably never see The Happening because it looks just terrible

 

[Amir0x]

I think Unbreakable is probably his best, it's the only one I can really sit through and even enjoy a little. It's silly but you can get where he was going with that one anyhow.

 

[Anasui Kishibe]

as much as you want to be right ami your view point really is the easy way to go... it really does not take any thinking at all to call the water thing stupid. Yet this this the kind of movie that gives you a window to think about things. I think the reaction is more to the hate meme that this director gets then anything else.


fanfic is a silly way to dismiss a person who has put some effort into thinking about something from more than a limited view point

I am dissapointed that you of all people are on this water vs. aliens plot hole pissing thing.


on well you don't like Animal Crossing so I don't have to worship you

truth is, those theories pulled by pro-Signs people to justify the atrocity of the plot are as bad as the plot itself


if you want to make an open for interpretation movie just just have to make sure that everything works according to everyone's pov. it has to make sense from all angles, and from all interpretations. What do you have here? To make it work you'd have to assume a Tower of Babel of bullshit, going from aliens that don't know about Earth being 75% water to deities pushing 'em to go there for some supreme reason.

This ain't 2001, in which the explanation makes a goddamn BIG sense (at least to me) and everything works, this was Shyamalan's attempt to be subtle and not being able to make everything work in a non-bullshit way

 

[BlazingDarkness]

ive not read the GAF opinion on this
but i can happily say i love this film
the whole cinema SHIT THEMSELVES several times throughout, which erupted in laughter afterwards (seriously, everyone in the room screamed in horror, i've never seen that before in my life)
especially the scene on the camcorder, when something walks from behind a hedge
ps. GAF is pathetic for bickering about the water, eugh

 

[Smiles and Cries]

truth is, those theories pulled by pro-Signs people to justify the atrociuty of the plot are as bad as the plot itself

it is fun to have a movie like that I think... I mean this is suppose to be entertainment. Movies are storytelling... if you can do better than do so. but don't just come out and shit on someone's work without thinking about it a little. The water thing is a major set up. It really makes people look retarded because its so obvious thats what humans would say. Huh how come he did not wear pants?

I don't really like this director at all I have seen Signs, Six, and Unbreakable. I feel this guy is kinda of a hack that does not really deserve his status. But some of his work really does make you discuss things more and more after the movie is over. Thus some call parts stupid while others find a window to explore the idea being presented beyond what this dude cared about

 

[FromTheFuture]

Two of my friends were in the birthday video scene. True story.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

If I had managed to stay awake during Lady in the Water, I suspect I'd consider it better than Signs.

The buildup was OK, but the payoff was horrifically bad.

 

[effzee]

the one scene, besides the bday scene, that i also really liked was in the basement when his jaquin accidently knocks out the light. the screen remains black for a few seconds.

i remember when i was in the theater watching it ppl were really freaked out.

 

[chubigans]

for the record, i am not a shyamalan apologist

i thought Sixth Sense was a great movie, Unbreakable was underrated, Signs is my favorite of his, The Village was a big letdown at the end, Lady in the Water was just god awful, and I will probably never see The Happening because it looks just terrible

Lady in the Water was actually pretty good. The Happening made me want to run out the theater screaming, get down on my knees and scream for the minutes of my life that were sacrificed, never to be gotten again.

 

[Baraka in the White House]

Being right all the time is like that.

I am loving the long fanfics that you've developed around shoving bullshit into Signs fifty mile deep plot holes, it is really fascinating how far people will go to explain shitty writing. I mean, you're right, what if they had some elaborate religious decree that demanded they send themselves to a super deadly planet with extremely evident signs of what kills them everywhere in hopes of harvesting something.

You should make that the next task in one of your threads. "Find a movie with an indefensible plot hole and create an elaborate fantasy explaining it away."

I'm writing mine right away, the subject will be Untraceable. Not even Diane Lane's supreme middle aged hotness can cover those holes up.

Rowr.

 

[Ike]

The first 2/3 of that movie were great, but the ending just made me dislike it so much.

 

[Rapping Granny]

This movie was fucking fantastic, one of the scriest part of teen hood was the alien in the mexican party, scred the shit out od me, sorry a bit drunk tonighht.

 

[Speevy]

I wish the movie had the mist's ending.

 

[Blablurn]

Good to see that some people agree with me!

btw, found the birthday scene on youtube

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=tdEes8bndow

 

[Rorschach]

Good to see that some people agree with me!

btw, found the birthday scene on youtube

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=tdEes8bndow

Now that I re-watch it, it's not that good. Maybe it's because I knew it was coming.

 

[wenis]

Now that I re-watch it, it's not that good. Maybe it's because I knew it was coming.

I think you need the build up from the rest of the film to get that feeling again. granted its not the same feeling the first time you see it, but there is still that little startle you get after being in the movie for awhile.

 

[Stuggernaut]

I always thought it was something that is IN our water as opposed to the water intself.

Seemed unlikely that they are walking space traveling video game characters (seems like water kills a lot of game characters). And like Ami said, unlikely they had never encountered water, ice, etc.

So I figured...got to be IN the water...makes more sense that way and lets me get over the silly side of it.

 

[maharg]

Yeah! Everything in this movie is so retarded! Humans never go anywhere or do anything that's harmful to them by its very nature. Hell, when we go to war we suit up in massive armored robot shells. ... Right?

No, we don't dig down into the surface of the earth where the air can turn poisonous at a moment's notice. We've never sent children into smokestacks to clean them. By god we never jump into a pool without a full tank of air on our back and 3 inch thick plexiglass in front of our eyes.

Seriously, if the aliens were invading the ocean, the massive bitch fest would make sense. As it is, they invaded dry areas on the surface of the continents for an unexplained purpose that may or may not have anything to do with occupation.

I will say that anyone suggesting the aliens have never encountered water before is not doing the movie any service though

Also, why did the kryptonians live on a planet that was poisonous to them? Those dumbasses.

 

[Rorschach]

Yeah! Everything in this movie is so retarded! Humans never go anywhere or do anything that's harmful to them by its very nature. Hell, when we go to war we suit up in massive armored robot shells. ... Right?

No, but they wear armor and gas masks when appropriate. Unless you mean guerilla soldiers. I guess the aliens could have been poor, rebel aliens that couldn't afford taking protective gear to a planet that's comprised of nothing more than a few chunks of earth surrounded and covered by POISON.

No, we don't dig down into the surface of the earth where the air can turn poisonous at a moment's notice. We've never sent children into smokestacks to clean them. By god we never jump into a pool without a full tank of air on our back and 3 inch thick plexiglass in front of our eyes.

A pool? Water doesn't...hurt...us... :shifteyes

Seriously, if the aliens were invading the ocean, the massive bitch fest would make sense. As it is, they invaded dry areas on the surface of the continents for an unexplained purpose that may or may not have anything to do with occupation.

Ah, so they only took over the parts with no precipitation and very little moisture in the air. So...deserts?

Also, why did the kryptonians live on a planet that was poisonous to them? Those dumbasses.

Kryptonite did not have the same properties that it held on Krypton since it was changed in the explosion and exposure to the sun. And it's not all deadly. Superman himself changed so even he is not the same as a normal Kryptonian living on Krypton.

I think you need the build up from the rest of the film to get that feeling again. granted its not the same feeling the first time you see it, but there is still that little startle you get after being in the movie for awhile.

Yeah, there was a lot of suspense building up and a want to see the creatures at that point.

 

[Zeliard]

Yeah! Everything in this movie is so retarded! Humans never go anywhere or do anything that's harmful to them by its very nature. Hell, when we go to war we suit up in massive armored robot shells. ... Right?

No, we don't dig down into the surface of the earth where the air can turn poisonous at a moment's notice. We've never sent children into smokestacks to clean them. By god we never jump into a pool without a full tank of air on our back and 3 inch thick plexiglass in front of our eyes.

Seriously, if the aliens were invading the ocean, the massive bitch fest would make sense. As it is, they invaded dry areas on the surface of the continents for an unexplained purpose that may or may not have anything to do with occupation.

I will say that anyone suggesting the aliens have never encountered water before is not doing the movie any service though

Also, why did the kryptonians live on a planet that was poisonous to them? Those dumbasses.

I'm not sure that comparing these aliens to human stupidity is the proper way to go here. This is a species that is apparently technologically advanced and evolved enough to be able to travel through space and develop a cloaking device that hides their ships from human sight and radar (and likely more advanced tech). But they don't think to cover themselves up at all when they're clearly very organically vulnerable.

If they've scouted the planet enough to create crop circles all over it and know the type of radar we use, it's unfathomable that they wouldn't know that water covers 70% of the Earth's surface and that they should probably protect themselves from it since it's lethal to them. If they were already familiar with water beforehand, they would have to know that they're vulnerable to it, and if they didn't, they would've had to think "well, what the fuck is this mysterious liquid that is so abundant on this planet we wish to conquer/colonize/harvest/whatever? Maybe we should test it or something."

The only way this isn't a gigantic plot hole is if the aliens are simply very stupid, and I don't see how a species that dumb at that point would be where they are technologically.

 

[Darklord]

Now that I re-watch it, it's not that good.

Watching a bad quality, small screened version on youtube might also factor towards it.

 

[maharg]

No, but they wear armor and gas masks when appropriate. Unless you mean guerilla soldiers. I guess the aliens could have been poor, rebel aliens that couldn't afford taking protective gear to a planet that's comprised of nothing more than a few chunks of earth surrounded and covered by POISON.

So historically, soldiers have in general worn substantial amounts of armor? Some of them have, sure. But certainly not most of them. Most of the people who fought in both world wars wore pretty much no armor despite being constantly shot at.

A pool? Water doesn't...hurt...us... :shifteyes

Really? So you'd be ok with, say, being dropped in the middle of the ocean with no boat or land for miles?

Ah, so they only took over the parts with no precipitation and very little moisture in the air. So...deserts?

A character in the movie actually points out all the circles are in places 'far away from water' (in fact, it's Shamalamadingdong himself) as he moves himself to near a lake.

Kryptonite did not have the same properties that it held on Krypton since it was changed in the explosion and exposure to the sun. And it's not all deadly. Superman himself changed so even he is not the same as a normal Kryptonian living on Krypton.

Blah blah blah blah blah.

I'm not sure that comparing these aliens to human stupidity is the proper way to go here. This is a species that is apparently technologically advanced and evolved enough to be able to travel through space and develop a cloaking device that hides their ships from human sight and radar (and likely more advanced tech). But they don't think to cover themselves up at all when they're clearly very organically vulnerable.

I'm actually not the one who brought up the comparison to humans. The flaw in that argument is the notion that humans never go into unsafe places unprotected. Miners have pitiful protection even today. Mine shafts collapse, the air turns noxious, and all those miners wear is a canvas suit. We're smart enough to build a space station, but we still take retarded risks all the time.

If they've scouted the planet enough to create crop circles all over it and know the type of radar we use, it's unfathomable that they wouldn't know that water covers 70% of the Earth's surface and that they should probably protect themselves from it since it's lethal to them. If they were already familiar with water beforehand, they would have to know that they're vulnerable to it, and if they didn't, they would've had to think "well, what the fuck is this mysterious liquid that is so abundant on this planet we wish to conquer/colonize/harvest/whatever? Maybe we should test it or something."

Again, what does earth having 70% ocean have to do with *anything*? We can't survive in that ocean either, but we get by ok. You're saying we would never jump into a chlorinated pool because to jump into a vat of chlorine would kill us. It's just stupid all or nothing logic.


Also, the notion of the hyperadvanced benevolent species pretty much went out the window when we broke the atom and proceeded to blow up two cities with that knowledge. With great power often comes great jerkyness.

 

[Rorschach]

So historically, soldiers have in general worn substantial amounts of armor? Some of them have, sure. But certainly not most of them. Most of the people who fought in both world wars wore pretty much no armor despite being constantly shot at.

But look at the time period... How can they not have the technology by the time they have mastered inter galactic space travel?

We didn't have flak technology completely figured out until after WWII. In WWII they were even using it for the wrong purpose. The ballistic vests that ground troops used weren't fashioned until after those wars.

Really? So you'd be ok with, say, being dropped in the middle of the ocean with no boat or land for miles?

Well, you said pool. If it was the ocean, I'd ask for a boat or something. We don't generally do that to someone we don't want dead.

A character in the movie actually points out all the circles are in places 'far away from water' (in fact, it's Shamalamadingdong himself) as he moves himself near a lake.

...but they had a lake nearby and the Aliens were landing in places where there was water. How can there be no water in places where there are enough CROPS to make those huge circles. Bet they prayed it didn't rain. And, btw, they're still breathing in the air that's also got water in it...

Blah blah blah blah blah.

:shrug

 

[LiveFromKyoto]

This movie is an IQ test.

 

[maharg]

But look at the time period... How can they not have the technology by the time they have mastered inter galactic space travel?

We didn't have flak technology completely figured out until after WWII. In WWII they were even using it for the wrong purpose. The ballistic vests that ground troops used weren't fashioned until after those wars.

Just because the technology is there doesn't mean everyone uses it. Infantry are often poorly protected, even now.

Well, you said pool. If it was the ocean, I'd ask for a boat or something. We don't generally do that to someone we don't want dead.

...but they had a lake nearby and the Aliens were landing in places where there was water. How can there be no water in places where there are enough CROPS to make those huge circles. Bet they prayed it didn't rain. And, btw, they're still breathing in the air that's also got water in it...

I like how these two quotes go together. You're ok being in a pool, but not the ocean. Still, the aliens can't go in the air because they'd die in the ocean or a lake. How often does it have to be said that water vapour the air is not even comparable to concentrated liquid water? Very similar to how chlorine suspended in a pool is nothing like concentrated chlorine in its impact on a person.

Also, apparently your arguments rest heavily on them being technologically advanced enough to do all sorts of things, but not have rudimentary weather prediction. Even we pathetic non-interstellar can tell you whether or not it's going to rain today. Never mind that they had massive ships sitting above the areas they invaded.

 

[Freshmaker]

Yeah! Everything in this movie is so retarded! Humans never go anywhere or do anything that's harmful to them by its very nature. Hell, when we go to war we suit up in massive armored robot shells. ... Right?

We did figure out how to make space suits before we went into orbit. They were also by virtue of being air tight, waterproof. You'd think a space faring civilization would have some use for equipment to protect them from the elements/space should they ever have to exit their ship in a dangerous environment.

The alternative, that they're just like explorers tossing around in wooden sailing ships (even then, those folks wore swords, took precautions etc) is too absurd to be believable.

 

[Night_Trekker]

The only way to really enjoy Signs is to ignore the massive plot hole and just accept that the aliens are inhuman monsters.

I'm getting really, really sick of Shyamalan's seeming inability to just make a film that doesn't rely on a big plot twist. I think he's a pretty talented director and he's made some great stuff (The Sixth Sense, Unbreakable), but he just keeps leaning on that crutch and it's hurting him.

 

[Crab Shaker]

This movie is an IQ test.

No it's a "how tight does your pair of underwear fit you" test.

 

[Count Dookkake]

The funniest thing about Signs is how Shyamalan revels in playing god.

Gibson loses faith in god because of Shyamalan's character's interference. The character killed his wife, but the writer/director is what really did it.

Gibson is allowed to capture an alien due to the interference of Shyamalan's character. Of course we don't see how Shyamalan captured the alien, but it's okay because he's the writer. Faith restored.

 

[spyshagg]

good movie.

The music alone brings good memories

 

[jamesinclair]

Bit of a contradiction seeing as air contains water vapor. They should have died / had a reaction as soon as they took their first breath on earth. Amirox is right, the water thing is beyond retarded.

Air has carbon dioxide. It doesnt kill us. Put a person in a room full of it, and they die.

 

[Freshmaker]

Air has carbon dioxide. It doesnt kill us. Put a person in a room full of it, and they die.

Yeah, but CO2 doesn't make your cells dissolve instantly. It just interferes with oxygen exchange. Water reacted like an intensely powerful acid when it hit the alien. Even vaporized water (Especially around a lake) should've been a major irritant for the aliens at the very least. Burned their eyes, made it difficult to breathe etc. (Think vaporized sulfuric acid for a human equivalent.)

 

[Snowman Prophet of Doom]

I personally take the view that they were harmed by liquid water because it was so highly concentrated, while water vapor in the air is dispersed enough that it doesn't do appreciable harm to them.

This movie is okay. Not great, but it has its moments and scared me a couple of times.

 

[Deleted member 22576]

I still feel that people grossly misinterpreted my argument that all assumptions about the aliens are pointless because we know nothing about them except for some reason, at that moment, one of them had an extreme reaction to water.

I actually do quite like Signs, but not for it's tight screenplay or great acting and directing.
I like it because when I saw it for the first time back in 9th grade, it scared the shit out of me.

I just want to make it clear that I was never defending Shyamalan or the quality of Signs' story.
Still though, I'm surprised at Amir0x. I don't really cruise OT that much so maybe yesterday was a bad day for him, but he acted incredibly immature and inappropriate.
I'm actually not even sure he was reading anyone's posts. In each reply he would just circle back to how shitty M. Night is as a writer, make fun of his name, and be extremely condescending to everyone who wasn't hating on the film.

 

[Amir0x]

Still though, I'm surprised at Amir0x. I don't really cruise OT that much so maybe yesterday was a bad day for him, but he acted incredibly immature and inappropriate.
I'm actually not even sure he was reading anyone's posts. In each reply he would just circle back to how shitty M. Night is as a writer, make fun of his name, and be extremely condescending to everyone who wasn't hating on the film.

I personally don't make a habit of coddling something that is stupid. If someone wants to make an elaborate story about some reason the aliens weren't retarded, that's your right - but I'm going to treat it like it's something it isn't. Also I read everyone's posts in detail. I think you're under the impression that this is supposed to somehow make me more open minded to the idea that Signs wasn't written by a hack, and therefore my responses should be less pointed. lol?

It's nothing personal though: it's just a debate about a shitty movie, after all.

 

[Freshmaker]

I still feel that people grossly misinterpreted my argument that all assumptions about the aliens are pointless because we know nothing about them except for some reason, at that moment, one of them had an extreme reaction to water.

"Hey send in Andy. He's the one allergic to water, and I'm sick of his whining. Everything we cook, it's 'Does it have water in it? 'Cause I'm allergic." Oh, wah wah..."

 

[Deleted member 22576]

I personally don't make a habit of coddling something that is stupid. If someone wants to make an elaborate story about some reason the aliens weren't retarded, that's your right - but I'm going to treat it like it's something it isn't. Also I read everyone's posts in detail.

I was never coddling together some retarded story to make Signs somehow make sense. My point was that we KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE ALIENS, so any argument against the movie made on that point doesn't make sense to me. You're hating something based on assumptions, there is nothing in the movie to confirm or deny that speculation. My "coddled together stories" were merely illustrating this fact. If you took them to somehow mean that I believed them, or that I was saying M. Night is some sort of genius with his subtext, then I'm not really sure you were reading my posts as thoroughly as you remember.

I'm also not trying to make you more open minded an accept Signs or think anymore of Shyamalan than you do.

I think you're under the impression that this is supposed to somehow make me more open minded to the idea that Signs wasn't written by a hack, and therefore my responses should be less pointed. lol?

That's what I was getting at in that post I just made. You STILL somehow think I'm defending Signs and Shyamalan!
My point has always been against the idea of hating something based purely on speculation.

 

[Deleted member 22576]

"Hey send in Andy. He's the one allergic to water, and I'm sick of his whining. Everything we cook, it's 'Does it have water in it? 'Cause I'm allergic." Oh, wah wah..."

I don't get it.

 

[Totz]

This movie was fucking fantastic, one of the scriest part of teen hood was the alien in the mexican party, scred the shit out od me, sorry a bit drunk tonighht.

Yeah, Mexico and Brazil are quite similar to one another.

That scene is still awesome. The money... not so much.

 

[Amir0x]

I was never coddling together some retarded story to make Signs somehow make sense. My point was that we KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE ALIENS, so any argument against the movie made on that point doesn't make sense to me. You're hating something based on assumptions, there is nothing in the movie to confirm or deny that speculation. My "coddled together stories" were merely illustrating this fact. If you took them to somehow mean that I believed them, or that I was saying M. Night is some sort of genius with his subtext, then I'm not really sure you were reading my posts as thoroughly as you remember.

I was generalizing in the sense of this thread, about how the best any defender of the movie had so far was these elaborate bullshit stories about why the aliens could conceivably have such low I.Q.'s. You included, since you invented some stories up. Whatever your intent may be to illustrate it's "speculation", the reality is it's just giving M. Night an excuse for his terrible writing.

That's what I was getting at in that post I just made. You STILL somehow think I'm defending Signs and Shyamalan!
My point has always been against the idea of hating something based purely on speculation.

And my point is there is enough information within the world of Signs to know that the person who wrote it is an undeniable hack and is not near intelligent enough to actually think up any of these elaborate schemes surrounding why the aliens would not, in fact, be retards.

your speculation merely is "whatever not enough info" while you go on liking Signs, my speculation is simply "there's an abundant amount of information which proves that this is an awful writer and therefore simply got stuck in the plot hole of aliens who were killed by water."

One needs only see one of his other films, like Happening or Lady in the Water or The Village to know this is true. I submit that this proves I have the best of the evidence available on my side.

 

[Freshmaker]

I don't get it.

They simply sent in the one alien how happened to be 1) named Andy, and 2) was allergic to water. Thusly, the water vulnerability isn't an alien issue per se, it's an Andy issue. (It's a heck of a twist.)

 

[RagnarokX]

I still feel that people grossly misinterpreted my argument that all assumptions about the aliens are pointless because we know nothing about them except for some reason, at that moment, one of them had an extreme reaction to water.

I actually do quite like Signs, but not for it's tight screenplay or great acting and directing.
I like it because when I saw it for the first time back in 9th grade, it scared the shit out of me.

I just want to make it clear that I was never defending Shyamalan or the quality of Signs' story.
Still though, I'm surprised at Amir0x. I don't really cruise OT that much so maybe yesterday was a bad day for him, but he acted incredibly immature and inappropriate.
I'm actually not even sure he was reading anyone's posts. In each reply he would just circle back to how shitty M. Night is as a writer, make fun of his name, and be extremely condescending to everyone who wasn't hating on the film.

Here is what we know about the aliens:

1. They have been visiting the Earth for over 50 years.
2. They were avoiding places with large bodies of water.
3. It's assumed they have ships capable of interstellar travel (although we never see these ships, how else could they have gotten here and made crop circles; plus UFO phenomenon is tied to crop circles).
4. They can run extremely fast and jump great heights.
5. They cannot break down a wooden door.
6. Water burns them like sulfuric acid would a human.
7. They are apparently hardcore nudists.
8. They are poisonous.

Now, you would think that in 50 years of scouting our planet that water is deadly to them, and that the planet is over 70% water. Also, in that time, it should have been easy to devise a way to keep themselves from getting wet. If they had some kind of belief system that forbade wearing clothing, then perhaps invading Earth was a very bad idea. I mean, they spend 50 years plotting this invasion, and they give it up after a couple of days on the offensive. What a waste of alien-hours. You could say that they didn't develop weapons because they were over reliant on their poison attacks, but they observed us for 50 years and didn't realize that that was inadequate? You could say they knew the dangers but attacked us anyway because they were desperate. If they were so desperate then why did they give up the fight so fast? It's just a huge plot hole.

And it's not like the people criticizing this film only hate it because of this one issue. As Amir0x and others have pointed out, the rest of the film is pretty terrible too. This is just the most glaring failure of the film.