SolidChamp
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Measure of a Man validates season 2, for me. Also, isn't Q Who in that season?
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Measure of a Man validates season 2, for me. Also, isn't Q Who in that season?
lucebuce12
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Yup. Started out oddly but it was a VERY good episode.
Lol, just got done with episode 1 of season 3 and this is definitely noticeable.The best Star Trek
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Also so glad that Beverly Crusher's back, she was always better than Dr. Pulaski.
The writer's strike happened between the first and second seasons, that's why season 2 premiered in late November with a repurposed Star Trek Phase 2 script. The finale being a shitty clip show was not a result of the strike, the writers had been back at work for months at that point.
acheron_xl
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IIRC, the Riker clip episode is generally considered to be the single worst episode of Trek in existence.
Henchmen21
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True but the late start of season 2 affected its run*. Which is why you got the reuse of phase II scripts. They were scrambling to get the season back on track after the strike. If I'm not mistaken (trying to remember off the top of my head) but "The Outrageous Okana" was also a phase II script. It's not too much of a stretch to say that had there not been a writers strike that year, "Shades of Gray" probably wouldn't have been written.
*Yes I've read the Memory Alpha write up on Shades and in it they say that Shades was mandated by the studio to deal with the budget overrun.
acheron_xl
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Seasons 1 and 2 of DS9 aren't great next to seasons 3-6 of DS9, but compared to the worst of TNG or VOY, they're a masterpiece.
Agreed.
Sir_Crocodile
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Naaah.
Just off the top of my head, Code of Honour, Threshold, Turnabout Intruder are all worse then Shades of Grey imo, as they're actively offensive. There's probably more too.
prag16
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Best Trek. Picard == GOAT.
Not remotely happy with the direction Star Trek has been taken in recent years. It's basically not Star Trek anymore. But we'll always have TNG (and to a lesser extent imo DS9).
Hoping for some kind of black Friday deal late this year to net me the complete bluray set for around $100.
Not remotely happy with the direction Star Trek has been taken in recent years. It's basically not Star Trek anymore. But we'll always have TNG (and to a lesser extent imo DS9).
Hoping for some kind of black Friday deal late this year to net me the complete bluray set for around $100.
StopMakingSense
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Absolutely.
The Hamburglar
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Is it worth skipping series one and two I hear they are shit. I've probably seen every episode of tng just never watched it from start to finish concurrently. I'm at hide and q in series one and I'm not loving it so far although I have already seen all this episodes before.
Learned how to sit down properly from this show, good cast with a nice variety of story lines. I should watch them again.
https://youtu.be/lVIGhYMwRgs
https://youtu.be/lVIGhYMwRgs
Fata1moose
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I really enjoyed TNG (favorite episode is "The Inner Light"). I'm currently on season 6 of DS9 which I like just as much, if not more.
On the subject of bad Trek episodes, the Crusher incubus is up there, but the one where they go to a resort world with really strict rules was worse. I recall a scene that opens up to a foot massage that last far too long. The director must have been excited.
Just watch them, there's a handful of good episodes in there. I really can't skip over things though, don't understand how people are okay with missing content.
On the subject of bad Trek episodes, the Crusher incubus is up there, but the one where they go to a resort world with really strict rules was worse. I recall a scene that opens up to a foot massage that last far too long. The director must have been excited.
Just watch them, there's a handful of good episodes in there. I really can't skip over things though, don't understand how people are okay with missing content.
The Hamburglar
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I've never seen riker so smug after he brings worf and Wesley back to life.
Skipping the first two seasons is a bad idea, they are generally weaker than the later seasons but they introduce a lot of great characters and concepts i.e. Q, Lore, Guinan, the borg, Moriarty, starship separation.
Season 2 also has one of the best Star Trek episodes ever produced, "The Measure of a Man" and many other good ones. True, there are some real stinkers in there but it's still worth watching, the show needed some time to find its footing.
Despite its flaws early TNG also had a sense of wonder that the later seasons lacked.
Season 2 also has one of the best Star Trek episodes ever produced, "The Measure of a Man" and many other good ones. True, there are some real stinkers in there but it's still worth watching, the show needed some time to find its footing.
Despite its flaws early TNG also had a sense of wonder that the later seasons lacked.
Static Veins
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I too am finally jumping on the TNG train since all of Trek was added to Netflix here in the UK. Just finished season 2 tonight and apart from a few questionable episodes here and there I've really enjoyed it. The fact season 3 onwards is regarded as the start of the really great stuff, I'm excited to keep on going.
Three of my biggest takeaways so far:
- Data could well become my favourite sci-fi character ever. He's brilliant. As is the whole crew really; great chemistry.
- The penultimate episode of the first season is the biggest curveball for a series I have ever seen. Was not expecting anything as...outlandishly graphic...as that.
- Some episodes make me wonder if the show should have been called "Commander Riker's Pussy Patrol" instead. Dude is like a dog on heat.
Three of my biggest takeaways so far:
- Data could well become my favourite sci-fi character ever. He's brilliant. As is the whole crew really; great chemistry.
- The penultimate episode of the first season is the biggest curveball for a series I have ever seen. Was not expecting anything as...outlandishly graphic...as that.
- Some episodes make me wonder if the show should have been called "Commander Riker's Pussy Patrol" instead. Dude is like a dog on heat.
Currently on a tear through TNG up to "Chain of Command: Part 2" in season 6. I thought the show had been coasting for a while, despite some intermittent highs like season 5's "Inner Light" or "I, Borg". I feel like at this point I can expect one or two standout episodes per season post-season 4 for the rest of the series run.
Chain of Command is pretty spectacular.
I hate all Q-related episodes.
Data plz.
No more Guinan.
How many more times will Troi be invaded/assaulted/possessed......ugh
Chain of Command is pretty spectacular.
I hate all Q-related episodes.
Data plz.
No more Guinan.
How many more times will Troi be invaded/assaulted/possessed......ugh
Just bought the Bluray boxset a couple of days ago. This show used to be one of my 'comfort' shows - it was always on when I came home from College many years ago.
Have only watched Encounter at Farpoint, The Naked Now ("not now Doctor"!!!) and Code of Honour thus far, so much more to look forward to.
Wesley is already SUPER annoying.
Have only watched Encounter at Farpoint, The Naked Now ("not now Doctor"!!!) and Code of Honour thus far, so much more to look forward to.
Wesley is already SUPER annoying.
That would be threshold, an episode so truly awful it was retroactively removed from canon and continuity. If only it could be removed from our minds as easily...
milkham
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He was just compensating for geordi's low performance in that area.
choco-fish
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Even Data got more action than Geordi!
Geordi had that one time with the holo-deck chick, not only did he get to first base with her, he recorded the whole thing, so the real person she was based on could stumble across it for maximum lulz.
Teren_Kanan
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Just started Watching this myself.
Into Season 3 atm, without skipping an episode.
I don't get the hate on Wesley at all.
There are some weak episodes occasionally, but I haven't outright disliked very many.
I was recently very annoyed with a season 3 episode "The Vengeance Factor". Just seemed out of character for Riker to delete that chick at the end. They are very anti killing in the federation, have amazing technowledgy, yet they played the scene like he had no other choice but to set phazer to maximum and straight up vaporize her. Seems like he coulda stunned her, on a higher setting, or for longer. He could have had the guy move away as he stunned her, they could have beamed either of them away. Hell he could have physically stopped her from reaching him. But nope, 2 stuns, and straight up disintegration.
Into Season 3 atm, without skipping an episode.
I don't get the hate on Wesley at all.
There are some weak episodes occasionally, but I haven't outright disliked very many.
I was recently very annoyed with a season 3 episode "The Vengeance Factor". Just seemed out of character for Riker to delete that chick at the end. They are very anti killing in the federation, have amazing technowledgy, yet they played the scene like he had no other choice but to set phazer to maximum and straight up vaporize her. Seems like he coulda stunned her, on a higher setting, or for longer. He could have had the guy move away as he stunned her, they could have beamed either of them away. Hell he could have physically stopped her from reaching him. But nope, 2 stuns, and straight up disintegration.
davidwhangchoi
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all i like in season 3 are the uniforms have collars =)
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