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Mad Men - Season 3 - Sundays on AMC

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Good episode, typically Ep. 5 is when things really start going into motion with this show and that seems to be the case.

I missed a couple of things though:

Did Dennis (the prison guard)'s wife have the baby when Don saw them in the hospital later? All I saw was the odd look he gave Don, though it could be related to the transfusion.

Also, did the birth certificate say Eugene?

I hope Francine's comment on Carla doesn't mean she's gone for good.
 
I like all the interesting one-time characters they keep introducing. The prison guard guy, that bar tender, etc.

Don is so gonna tap that school teacher.
 
a Master Ninja said:
I like all the interesting one-time characters they keep introducing. The prison guard guy, that bar tender, etc.
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He actually wasn't a bartender. The theory is that guy was supposed to be Conrad Hilton.
 
During Betty's hallucination where she was in the kitchen she saw her dad, her mom, and some guy I never remember seeing before was sitting at the table. What was that about? I seem to recall Betty's mom holding what appeared to be a bloody rag and saying something like "this is what happens to people who speak up". Some sort of reference to the Civil Rights Movement? I'm at a loss here.
 
a Master Ninja said:
During Betty's hallucination where she was in the kitchen she saw her dad, her mom, and some guy I never remember seeing before was sitting at the table. What was that about? I seem to recall Betty's mom holding what appeared to be a bloody rag and saying something like "this is what happens to people who speak up". Some sort of reference to the Civil Rights Movement? I'm at a loss here.
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In the opening scene, Sally's teacher mentioned that Sally was asking lots of questions about Medger Evers's (a civil rights activist) death. Think it was meant to be him.
 
Just saw the episode. Loved, loved, loved it. Favorite of the season (maybe show?).

The scene with Peggy and Don was especially good.
 
There were some legendary lines tonight.

"Well, if it isn't Martin Luther King!"
"I left my lunch pail on the bus...and I'm having a baby."

:lol :lol
 
a Master Ninja said:
I like all the interesting one-time characters they keep introducing. The prison guard guy, that bar tender, etc.

Don is so gonna tap that school teacher.
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He'll be giving her The Business. in no time.
 
The Peggy / Don scenes are always gold. I love how her desire for his life highlights his clawing existential angst. The only place he knows to look is into the void :lol

I also kind of loved all of the clues about Betsy's repression. January Jones does a great job with her every time. It can't be easy playing that clenched of a character ("my water NEVER breaks!").

Also, how grim was childbirth back then? I loved the portrayal of how cold, antiseptic, drugged and separated it was. Explains a lot.
 
Enjoyed this episode a lot. I especially dug the scene when Don comes into the meeting late, listens to british guy whining about pencils for a few seconds, and then just stands up and leaves without saying a word.
 
GrumpyAlien said:
Enjoyed this episode a lot. I especially dug the scene when Don comes into the meeting late, listens to british guy whining about pencils for a few seconds, and then just stands up and leaves without saying a word.
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Don has been awesome this season. His reaction to people and situations are just amazing and hilarious at the same time.
 
Draper just standing up and walking out of that expenses meetings without a word is probably my new all-time favorite Don moment of awesomeness.
 
Brian Fellows said:
Do you really care what any of these goons say about an episode you've already seen?
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For something like Mad Men, I usually read a couple of them to catch things that I missed (subtle moments, historical notes, etc...) The show is too dense to pick it all up the first time around (at least for me), and I don't typically have time to rewatch each episode. I assume some other people on here are reading the ones I post, but perhaps that's not the case.
 
If John Slattery doesn't win something this awards season for playing Sterling, I think I'm going to hope up on stage and pull a Cuntya my damn self. He hasn't had much screen time yet this season (you know that will change), but god damn if he doesn't get the best one liners.

Sepinwall is right in his review, the season feels like it's starting right now. And from the looks of next weeks preview it's only going to get better.
 
GQman2121 said:
Sepinwall is right in his review, the season feels like it's starting right now. And from the looks of next weeks preview it's only going to get better.
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It really does. While I enjoyed the first few episodes I really couldn't tell where the season was going.
 
Gunloc said:
I missed a couple of things though:

Did Dennis (the prison guard)'s wife have the baby when Don saw them in the hospital later? All I saw was the odd look he gave Don, though it could be related to the transfusion.
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I'm not sure what was going on in that exchange either.

There was no baby, though. And Dennis looked like death when I replayed it in slow motion, with deep black circles around his eyes, and the wife was kind of looking off into space with a distant look. So I'm wondering if the baby didn't make it?

That's my best guess, anyway. Maybe someone else can shed some light on it.
 
On the second scene between Hobart and Don:

Hobart and his wife were kinda smiling and such before he saw Don; I think he was embarrassed he had a moment of weakness like that in front of him. Remember, men were not as forthcoming with their emotions back then, etc, etc.
 
LocoMrPollock said:
I'm not sure what was going on in that exchange either.

There was no baby, though. And Dennis looked like death when I replayed it in slow motion, with deep black circles around his eyes, and the wife was kind of looking off into space with a distant look. So I'm wondering if the baby didn't make it?

That's my best guess, anyway. Maybe someone else can shed some light on it.
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I heard people suggest it's because he felt awkward after being so intimate with another guy in the waiting room, which makes sense.

Possibly the baby didn't make it, though. Or was born with a birth defect.
 
Those trailers are always cut to make it seem like one thing when its really another. I wouldn't worry about old' Don's place at SC.
 
hobart said:
Does anyone recall Don mentioning whether or not his father had died?
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In the Hobart scene? Or ever?

His dad died when he was young. Kicked in the face by a horse, I believe. That's part of why he feels a connection with the teacher.
 
I don't know if this has been discussed yet (will catch up on this thread after posting)

As Don went to see Betty for the first time after giving birth to his new baby, he passed the prison guard wheeling his wife down the hallway. The prison guard avoided eye contact with Don. I rewound my cable box, to see that the wife looked upset. No baby in arms. (Unless I’m wrong)

Shoot back to the pivotal scene with Peggy. She tells Don how he has everything, and I’m surprised how Don agreed with her, even saying that he may have too much.

To your point about Don not appreciating the life he’s made himself: I think Don feels he doesn’t deserve his life. I think he feels guilty for all he has. Has he reached a point where he can change? That’s his struggle. I don’t know if he knows how to.
 
Aw snap, looks like Don's moving up in the world.

The Sal's shoes were really popping in that announcement scene.:lol
 
Epic blood splatter. And leave it to good ole' Roger to make light of it during the aftermath. Loved his "foot in the door" line.
 
RE: Lawnmower

On almost any other show, that scene wouldn't be so shocking. But on a show where everything seems to be so controlled (on the surface), seeing something truly go berserk is really startling.

It was nice to see (almost) all the SC employees, featured and recurring in one episode. Though I don't know if Lois will survive this one.

I'm dying for Joan to ask for her job back. The look on her face is soul crushing.
 
Oh wow I'm still trying to process past shock at that moment. Fantastic way to throw a curveball, Mad Men.

Great episode beyond that wtf moment, though. Lots of stuff to unpack, with the repeated emphasis on light, numerous references to snakes, etc, etc. Man I can't wait to see where things go next!

EDIT: Also, man do I love Slattery. "I'm sure somewhere in this business this has happened before."
 
Ignatz Mouse said:
There's no way we're seeing Lois in the office again. This isn't Dunder Mifflin.
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I actually thought that we might not see Lois and Smitty again, but it seems like Smitty will survive.
 
Man, it's just crazy how losing your foot not only changes your life, but can totally destroy your career too. I kind feel bad, but the guy appears to be an empty suit anyways.
 
So I'm left wondering how Joan finds her way back into Sterling Cooper. She could return by being hired into another position -- maybe non-secretarial, which would rub Peggy the wrong way. We already know Joan's "more of a man" than her husband is. Hell, the quick thinking and leadership she displayed while saving the Brit's life is the complete antithesis of her husband's character. In another time, another generation, Joan would rule the business world. But Don's given Peggy a shot already, that may be his limit.

Ah, a revelation: Roger Sterling could be Joan's ticket back in.
 
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