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Maddox: iPhone is a piece of shit
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BudokaiMR2
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B-Ri said:
They can't add 3G now can they!?
Can't wait to get to Japan and get a free phone with 3G that wipes ass with the iphone.
I might get an iphone once they add 3G, but no way I am paying 600 bucks for some inferior edge bullshit
SuperPac
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RiskyChris said:
I disagree, because on every new screen that pops up with the iPhone you have buttons that are clear to their functions. There's no "oh, what does the left-side, right-side or center button do when I'm on [ x ] screen?"
If I were driving and had to hand my phone to a friend that's never used the device to look something up with Google Maps there would be no question of how to get to that function. They wouldn't have to use a scrollwheel or any such thing to get to it. Same for pretty much ANYTHING on the phone. That's why the iPhone is not a regression of technology.
B-Ri said:
I think the point you seem to be missing is that some of the more fundamental, missing items (e.g., custom ringtones, copy/paste, sending one SMS to multiple people at once) are features that iPhone users shouldn't have to wait for. They should've been implemented to begin with.
If pointing out the breathtakingly obvious faults of a device is "hating," then so be it. But that means you're marching in lockstep with the Apple Defense Force.
SuperPac said:
Eh, I'm not too sure about that. Apple's great at UI, but even with their skills the iPhone interface isn't perfect. I had to poke at a few things once or twice to see what they did.
RiskyChris
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SuperPac said:
As far as I'm concerned, for the primary purpose of the iPhone, there is a regression. I'm not trying to belittle the obviously magnificent technology present, it's just that a god damn set of buttons would make things a lot more pleasant. I want to be able to, for instance, text message while not looking at my screen (to keep paying attention in lecture). These things can compliment a better interface.
Yes, B-Ri, the touchscreen only design is absolutely an attempt to keep a trendy, sleek image.
xsarien said:
oh i know the flaws, but then there is the obviously angry posts toward a phone most havent touched, with hilarious arguments that its trendy and thus sucks. It may be missing some things, but theyre simple fixes that can and will come, and its positives more then far outweigh its negatives. Its not like they forgot to put in the microphone or speaker in the phone.
Gearharaden
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RiskyChris said:
Do you even know what trendy is? It's being conforming to a trend. Where is there a touchscreen trend? Nowhere. There sure is a trend of ****-ugly phones, however.
You're a ****ing idiot, and so is anybody else that would defend a phone that lacks a microphone.
And if that's sarcasm in your post, then please leave the thread, as the only people who seem to be posting in this thread are people who would drop trou for Steve Jobs or are people who have had their dog run over by Steve Jobs, after which he set the dog on fire, peed out the flames, took the ashes and sprinkled them on a faggot sandwich and rode a huge dick to gayland. Or at least that's how people are acting.
RiskyChris
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B-Ri said:sleek, yes. Trendy? Sorry the phone is pleasing to look at, maybe i shoudl go back and ya know, get this phone.
cause ya know, it just needs to make calls.
Yeah, my phone does need to make calls. And if I'm buying one it better damn do it as well as it can.
I'm not going to sacrifice functionality for looks. Never ever. It's like using a one-button mouse because it looks better than a two-button version.
RiskyChris
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SuperPac said:
If it takes a small learning curve to use a more tactile, efficient device, so be it.
SuperPac said:
I said once or twice. Why the hell is everyone so damned defensive?
Yeah, "so much more." Outside of Visual Voicemail, the iPhone doesn't do anything more that current phones can't do just as well. The difference is in the interface.B-Ri said:
Also, for the panacea-like praise the phone's getting, people sure do gloss over the fact that the (very nice) Google Maps implementation still relies on you to tell the phone where you are. It won't be a killer app until the 2G, 3G-enabled iPhone has (presumably) a GPS chip integrated into the device.
Also: A freshman HCI student in the dead center of Syberia with no contact with the outside world could tell you that tactile feedback is very handy to have. Why the hell do you think the click-wheel on the regular iPods came back after the rather misguided (but much prettier) 3G iPod?
Gary Whitta
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Plastic tactile buttons are RIP. Face it. The haters are coming across like Luddites. The iPhone is the new Spinning Jenny, it must be smashed!
Gearharaden
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RiskyChris said:
Do you seriously think the majority of iPhone sales is based off of looks? Newsflash, the majority of iPhone sales are the cause of the ever-growing fanbase of Apple, which I don't support, but it sure is making an assload of money for Apple.
Have you even used the phone? The reason I'm interested is because once I tried it at a store, I realized that it's easily the fastest phone I've ever had the pleasure of using. The processor is very snappy and goes from app to app effortlessly, which is much more than I can say for the past 4 phones I've had, and the dozens I've sat down and played with.
Seriously, if you don't want to buy it because you don't want to be trendy, start dying your hair and slitting your wrists now, you rebel you.
RiskyChris
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Gearharaden said:
:lol
I don't want to buy it because it doesn't have buttons. That's pretty much my only beef with the product, to put it up front nice and clear.
Everything else about it is absolutely amazing.
Edit: To be clear, again, my desire to not purchase an iPhone has nothing to do with whether it is or is not trendy nor whether I do or do not want to be labeled trendy.
Gearharaden
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RiskyChris said:
Too bad you felt the need to point out, several times, that you disliked the fact that it was trendy.
And if you don't want tactile buttons, fine, but please, take your flamebait elsewhere.
And OP, go kill yourself. The last thing NeoFAQs needs is more flamebait from a washed up piece of dogshit.
RiskyChris
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Gearharaden said:
I pointed out that the lack of buttons is an obvious design choice to keep a sleek finish, paying no heed to what functionality such a decision would remove.
If I mentioned that I dislike that it's trendy, I apologize. That is not my intention and my brain is a little on the fritz from staying up the past 2 days reading this FOUR HUNDRED AND THIRTY PAGE REFERENCE MANUAL @ http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/39632c.pdf
SuperPac
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xsarien said:
I meant to add a
to that. Oops. Anyway, RiskyChris said:
And if it takes an extra button press and looking at the screen to use what I think is a more efficient device, so be it. Different strokes for different folks. That the front of the iPhone can turn into any button layout the current application logically needs is simply too much of an attraction for me.
Gearharaden
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RiskyChris said:
I can't really agree that the choice to go all touchscreen was influenced completely by the desire to make a sleek phone. Alot of phones look great and feature a full set of buttons. The Blackberry Curve for instance is a great looking phone and features a QWERTY keyboard. I think a part of it is definitely design choice, but I think another part is just trying something new. The multi-touch technology is very experimental and Apple took a risk by putting it into a phone of all devices. However, the lack of tactile feedback hasn't stopped the iPhone from selling like hotcakes, so it seems that the risk wasn't a big one.
RiskyChris
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Gearharaden said:
And therein lies my pent-up beef. It sucks being in the minority =(
Gary Whitta
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Totally. If this isn't apparent to the Ned Ludds of this generation yet, it will become so over the next couple of years.SuperPac said:
For those interested, here's a quick article on the best-selling cell phone of all time. Note its features.
You keep using the word "Luddite."
I'm not entirely sure it means what you think it means.
Gary Whitta said:
You keep using the word "Luddite."
I'm not entirely sure it means what you think it means.
Gearharaden
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RiskyChris said:
Yeah but the minority includes every major phone company. Nobody is going to follow Apple's model until years from now when people don't have a withdrawal problem. Think about it, Apple has been making CPU+monitor combos since ****ing forever, and rarely ever do we see PCs that combine the monitor and CPU.
The iPhone selling alot doesn't mean it's the new hot tech that every phone will start using, it just means Apple is doing things the Apple way, just like always.
Since when did sales of anything relate to the quality of a product? McDonalds is one of the richest food businesses in the market, if not the richest, and it's the shittiest food in the entire universe.
RiskyChris
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Gearharaden said:
I don't fear for the phone market in the least
I'm just sad that such an awesome phone has my adoption stymied by such a trivial design decision.
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2153824,00.asp
Tactile feedback on a touchscreen, okay? Now can well stuff an iSock in it and sing Kum Ba Yah or some shit?
Tactile feedback on a touchscreen, okay? Now can well stuff an iSock in it and sing Kum Ba Yah or some shit?
Gearharaden
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White Man said:
After reading this, I made a comparison, it seems like buying the iPhone or not is like a PC vs. Console FPS gaming. It's whatever you prefer. Some people require rumble and are much more comfortable with analog sticks while other people enjoy the accuracy and freedom of KB+M.
It's not entirely surprising that it boils down to personal choice on whether or not you want to spend 600 dollars.
SuperPac
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RiskyChris said:
I really don't understand that, especially if you think it's an "awesome phone" otherwise. That's like saying you don't wanna buy a DS because you don't like having to look at two screens. Or you don't want to give up the typewriter for a computer because you like the purposeful "clack" of the keys on your Smith-Corona.
RiskyChris
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SuperPac said:
The DS and computer don't remove features that I've come to expect from the previous versions of said technology. I want to be able to feel my keys and dial without looking at a screen. Period. It's a damn phone, first and foremost for me.
SuperPac said:
You get the impression of pressing the keys whether you're on an IBM typewriter (SC IS TEH SUX!) or whatever OEM shit is packed with a Dell.
You get the same feeling of pressing a button on a Treo as you do on Moto Q. You can't say the same about the iPhone; I'd argue that touch-typing is substantially more difficult on a purely touchscreen device, but that's not something I can actively study unless I get an iPhone.
(Hell, now that I think about it, I can text on a 1-0 keypad on a "normal" phone without looking thanks to predictive text entry.)
chinmonster
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Isn't this true of most phones, just to get you to buy more ringtones through whatever provider for $1.99 or whatever?Thoren said:
Gary Whitta
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Yeah that must be why no-one's buying it.Jak140 said:
Gary Whitta
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Inferior technology, LOL. I guess you dont count UI design and implementation as technology.
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BudokaiMR2
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Gary Whitta said:
Just out of curiousity...Have you used a 3G phone? Anyone I know that has had the experience of using it has trouble going back.
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