I know some MTG Finance folks on Twitter have been cracking boxes/cases but the volume has been moderate so far. The print to demand on Conspiracy is a slower turnaround than say, Commander decks, since they have to wait for enough demand to build up and the appeal is more limited. Even if more stores/financiers start cracking product it'll be a slow burn. Boxes are around an EV of $88 now so it's really only profitable if prices move a little more or if you're able to get product for near the cost to retail. One thing to note, the floor on the EV currently is fairly high at just under $60 which is reasonable.
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Magic: the Gathering |OT10| Aether Revolt - That shit that make your Soul Burn slow
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I know some MTG Finance folks on Twitter have been cracking boxes/cases but the volume has been moderate so far. The print to demand on Conspiracy is a slower turnaround than say, Commander decks, since they have to wait for enough demand to build up and the appeal is more limited. Even if more stores/financiers start cracking product it'll be a slow burn. Boxes are around an EV of $88 now so it's really only profitable if prices move a little more or if you're able to get product for near the cost to retail. One thing to note, the floor on the EV currently is fairly high at just under $60 which is reasonable.
Yeah that's horribly generic and sort of misleading.
shrapnelmagnet
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Yeah, and the 4C decks are "Four-Colour Saheeli". Alas. Maybe future Opens will have a diff name. I suppose it is only week one.
SigmasonicX
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Wow, that's a lot of counter spells from Jim Davis.
EDIT: Confirm Suspicions went off!
EDIT: Torrential Gearhulk -> Confirm Suspicions, without even breaking any of the clues. Then concede.
EDIT: Confirm Suspicions went off!
EDIT: Torrential Gearhulk -> Confirm Suspicions, without even breaking any of the clues. Then concede.
Nah they get weird about names sometimes. I remember them pushing "Jeskai Black" real hard, despite Wizards official coverage using other names.I do like that they never bent to them calling Affinity "Robots" though. Fuck that.
His opponent was on a mull to 4, against a counters + removal deck that's real harsh.
charlequin
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With the first Conspiracy they had a slow burn with specific waves of boxes a few times during the year, this is probably similar.
keeblerdrow
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Rudy is known for using a face pace of play to throw his opponents off. This time, he made hasty decisions and it cost him. A lot. Pressuring someone with fast play when they have very few outs left to them doesn't work. They're already under pressure from the impending loss. Jim's deck just punished him the most it could.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Painful to watch. In particular taking the tracker over a Stasis Snare from Oath of Nissa.
What? It's not like Magic has a clock like chess does.
keeblerdrow
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No, but at FNM through SCG Open levels of play, you can often get your opponent to play at the same pace as you by making hurried decisions and actions. If you're at least slightly better at it than the average player, you can force mistakes from opponents by inducing them to play at a pace they're not comfortable with. I've seen it at my LGS a lot and you can see it on the SCG Tour a occasionally.
SigmasonicX
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Ooh, Winding Constrictor deck incoming?
SigmasonicX
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So the key to beating Copycat is beating them by turn 4.
Infinite Stars
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You can't take Stasis Snare from Oath of Nissa. Oath let's you dig 3 and pick either a land, creature, or planeswalker
IrrelevantAlex
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I got side tracked yesterday. Thanks for the suggestions. Tajuru fits nicely and conveniently I already had Sigarda in the deck.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
oh I mistook it for vessel of nascency. Man green ponder is way worse than I expected it to be.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Huh? You can't.
So how is Copy Cat? I'm not following the stream.
No idea, I caved in and bought when it went over $3 and now it's even higher!
No idea, I caved in and bought when it went over $3 and now it's even higher!
SigmasonicX
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It's instant win when the combo is assembled, and still pretty good when it isn't. A lot of its losses today seem to be misplays against aggro decks, since they often put down Saheeli on turn 3 and have it get destroyed by attacking creatures.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Not to mention it's control decks with limited slots going into a new meta blind.
I almost wish the bans didn't happen so you'd see the true menace the combo was in the UW tempo shell.
I almost wish the bans didn't happen so you'd see the true menace the combo was in the UW tempo shell.
SigmasonicX
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Huh, Shielded Aether Thief.
EDIT: For those who missed it, or want to see it again, play mat reactions from the SCG stream.
EDIT: For those who missed it, or want to see it again, play mat reactions from the SCG stream.
Infinite Stars
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Cedric+Patrick are amazing. Just Patrick busting a gut laughing at it.
I knew it. Super low to the ground kills the deck, which my deck is poised to exploit.
"God's Beard!"
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UB Control I've been working on today. Just keeping it as streamlined as possible for now.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Super low to the ground isn't terribly good in general though. You can win against Cat but it's not like the percentages are super high especially post board.
Agreed. The thing is getting banned in March.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The judge at my store kept complaining about how much Tezzeret sucks but I personally find the card really fun. His ultimate looks bad on paper but when you build a deck around him it's actually very good and it's pretty easy to actually get.
It's my belief that it was intentional but they will deny the shit out of it.
divisionbyzorro
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No way. Flicker creatures have always been safe (Glimmerpoint Stag, Flickerwisp) as long as there aren't ways to put them out at instant speed. The mistake they made was in having the flicker happen immediately instead of at end step; they did this almost certainly for Limited so that the cat could make the Revolt creatures retrigger themselves. I'm guessing nobody even thought to test it with everything else in standard.
shrapnelmagnet
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Don't mean to be super negative nor direct this entirely at you, but I feel like your stance on the SCG players is really unfair.
Are the SCG players the absolute best in the world every turn of every game? Of course not. They are players. Playing. "You can't watch" opinions are absurdly dismissive. Do mistakes bother you? Sure. That's reasonable. However, unless you are on that circuit, your dismissive opinion bothers me.
I'm glad you are so good at the game that you can have knowledge of both players' hands and boards and, from your chair, know the perfect play.
I do understand your position, though. I hate watching a deck I like misplay and lose to a deck it should otherwise beat, but I don't and won't turn my back on the whole thing because a player didn't do what I wanted.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I mean, Marshall is really good at limited, he's just trying to keep it entertaining.
"God's Beard!"
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Marshall is really good at understanding limited, but he ignores his own advice a lot when he drafts for his VODs.
Owen Turtenwald and Ben Stark are the only people you should be watching for consistently high level play and commentary.
Ben Stark has the best commentary of any player I've ever seen in limited, and Owen talks like he's from the FGC which I love. "I AM PLAYING AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL AND YOUR MULLIGANS PLEASE ME"
Owen Turtenwald and Ben Stark are the only people you should be watching for consistently high level play and commentary.
Ben Stark has the best commentary of any player I've ever seen in limited, and Owen talks like he's from the FGC which I love. "I AM PLAYING AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL AND YOUR MULLIGANS PLEASE ME"
SigmasonicX
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Well, only three Copycat decks, I guess it isn't a problem!
For those actually thinking that, Copycat is extremely adaptable. You can plug that combo into any deck that runs those colors, so you can easily change the cards around it to handle the metagame. Plus, a lot of the players didn't play their decks very skillfully.
SigmasonicX
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Copycat is out of the top 4.
Imperfected
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I was thinking of making a Winding Constrictor deck, but I was afraid everyone would think it was too simple/dumb, like my Red/White Human Aggro deck during Eldritch Moon.
I guess Copycat made it cool to be square.
I guess Copycat made it cool to be square.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
The downside of the GB aggro decks is that they are pretty boring to watch.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It's fine in the right deck. Just don't expect to dump it on Turn 2 in every random deck the way Hangarback Walker could be played.
it's spiked to $20 on tcgplayer.
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