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Great movie, very re-watchable. I don't get the hate I've seen some display towards the movie. I think some just go out of there way to hate critically acclaimed and popular movies for some odd reason. Its like hating chocolate because 9 out of ten people you meet will say they like chocolate.

Jamesfrom818 said:
There's one thing I always wondered about. Jenny died of AIDS right? So...shouldn't both Forrests be infected as well?
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Really? I had no fucking idea. Where was this implied?
 
RumFore said:
Great movie, very re-watchable. I don't get the hate I've seen some display towards the movie. I think some just go out of there way to hate critically acclaimed and popular movies for some odd reason. Its like hating chocolate because 9 out of ten people you meet will say they like chocolate.



Really? I had no fucking idea. Where was this implied?
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Jenny said something about an incurable disease, and she used needles and stuff in the movie.
 
I can't remember where I first heard that theory, but ever since then I sort of just automatically assumed it. I think the theory stems from the era that she died, all the druggin' and sexin' she did at the time, and the nature of her sickness. Didn't the doctors not know exactly what she had?

Plus, if she did have AIDS, then that means Forrest and Son have AIDS, and that puts a whole different spin on the ending. :p
 
Cheesemeister said:
Fixed.

See above.
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That is the only reason?

demon said:
I can't remember where I first heard that theory, but ever since then I sort of just automatically assumed it. I think the theory stems from the era that she died, all the druggin' and sexin' she did at the time, and the nature of her sickness. Didn't the doctors not know exactly what she had?

Plus, if she did have AIDS, then that means Forrest and Son have AIDS, and that puts a whole different spin on the ending. :p
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She got AIDS from John Holmes.
 
FG and Back to the Future are probably tied as my favorite movie.

The part when Forrest introduces Jenny to Lt. Dan at the wedding and he sticks his chin out beaming with pride...man that gets me everytime. That's love there.
 
icarus-daedelus said:
Corny, manipulative, overdone. Like most Hollywood movies, really, except this one goes that extra mile by having its main character accidentally stumble through every important event of the 70s. (The TV show Rome did this too, but with a different era, so I have hereby named this horrid plot device Forrest Gump Syndrome.)
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Aren't like all emotional scenes in movies manipulative?
 
icarus-daedelus said:
Corny, manipulative, overdone. Like most Hollywood movies, really, except this one goes that extra mile by having its main character accidentally stumble through every important event of the 70s. (The TV show Rome did this too, but with a different era, so I have hereby named this horrid plot device Forrest Gump Syndrome.)
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Ummm it was well done. I can't see why you and other people keep taking the achievements that made this film what it is, and say that its a bad thing. Great acting, great writing, good camera work, and a remarkable score make this film terrific.
 
icarus-daedelus said:
Corny, manipulative, overdone. Like most Hollywood movies, really, except this one goes that extra mile by having its main character accidentally stumble through every important event of the 70s.
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I suppose that was nowhere near as believable as making a set of wings out of feathers and wax.
 
icarus-daedelus said:
Sure, but it goes right over the top when they have SWELLING music and shit. Seriously, all movies manipulate you, some to great effect, but Hollywood does it in a trite and condescending fashion which works for some but turns me off the second it happens.

Like, "listen, can you hear the violins? That means you're supposed to cry at this scene!"
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Come on man, "swelling music" and the very specific "and shit"? Are you really complaining about movie makers using music to strengthen the emotions in scenes? :lol

Why don't you give me a couple of examples where scenes like that are done in a, according to you, good way? What's the next step, complaining about the "manipulative" music in the Shark -- because it's there to build up tension?
 
WTF

the only reason someone should complain about the use of music in a movie is when hollywood tries to tell you to cry or feel emotional over a subject that is not worth crying about, or an issue that they are trying to force people to accept.
 
icarus-daedelus said:
I never said that. I said that PART of the reason I dislike it is the very typical, very annoying score.

Also, ItsInMyVeins, I misinterpreted your request for well-done emotional scenes that don't use shitty Hollywood music. How about the end of Do The Right Thing - it uses Public Enemy's "Fight the Power," hardly a sad song, in such an effective way that - I shit you not - I cried the first time. Hell, it still feels like a punch in the gut when I rewatch it.
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How the fuck....?
 
icarus-daedelus said:
Yes, I am, because it has been done in EVERY MOVIE EVER. Is it so much to demand working outside the norm, even just a little bit?
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So you're saying that any movie that doesn't go outside of the norm is automatically bad? And how do you work outside the norm when it comes to putting music to a scene. Either you add music or you don't. Both have been done a lot of times?

icarus-daedelus said:
To be perfectly honest, it's been a few years since I've seen Forrest Gump, and it's not like I remember every scene in every film I dislike. And, I don't know what "the Shark" is, so I can't comment there.

:lol
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Oh, fuck, I did a little tripping over that one. Jaws is called (when directly translated) The Shark over here. Anyways, the point still stands.

icarus-daedelus said:
Also, ItsInMyVeins, I misinterpreted your request for well-done emotional scenes that don't use shitty Hollywood music. How about the end of Do The Right Thing - it uses Public Enemy's "Fight the Power," hardly a sad song, in such an effective way that - I shit you not - I cried the first time. Hell, it still feels like a punch in the gut when I rewatch it.
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Yeah, using contrasts to make a scene more powerful is such a new thing! :O
 
pewye said:
WTF

the only reason someone should complain about the use of music in a movie is when hollywood tries to tell you to cry or feel emotional over a subject that is not worth crying about, or an issue that they are trying to force people to accept.
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oh I'm no stranger to complainign about music in movies. There's nothing I hate more than the movie that plays generic orchestral music over EVERY FUCKING SCENE in an effort to distract you from noticing how vapid the scenes are and make you think htat what your'e watching is worth being emointionally invested in.


ahh fucking drunken spelling.
 
icarus-daedelus said:
Wow, lots to respond to here.
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i'm not understanding you, The songs like "go your own way" and "running on empty" and other songs in the film was used to describe the era and situation Gump was going through. What is your angle here?
 
When the movie released, I was in middle school. I used to tell one of my black friends that I was born with big gums. In hindsight he probably thought I was an idiot.
 
i can't dislike this movie, no matter how hard i try. it falls under the same category as jerry maguire for me.

is it manipulative? yes. is it saccharine? oh god, yes. but it touches my soft side, has actors i like, and--so far as my pretty pedestrian film tastes are concerned--is decently well-made. i guess if i sat down with a checklist i could name tons of things that are wrong with forrest gump, and things it shouldn't be allowed to get away with, but in the end what really matters is that i watch the flick, i smile, sometimes i get a little torn up, and i never regret it after.
 
icarus-daedelus said:
It's the kind of music that's the problem, not the fact that there's music there. There's more than one way to add music to a movie; not every movie has to have violins playing during a sad scene.
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I agree, but that's not true for Forrest Gump. Each of those scenes whould have been powerful without the music too, even though it definitely adds on it because the music's so good.
 
icarus-daedelus said:
I guess we'd just have to agree to disagree on both those counts, then.
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OK.

But I'm still waiting for you to start wailing about the manipulative theme to Jaws, or how Morricones theme to The Untouchables destroyed that movie too. I mean, that one even got like trumpets in it man, trumpets :O
 
icarus-daedelus said:
I guess we'd just have to agree to disagree on both those counts, then.
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I still don't get it, how can someone dislikes the songs in the movie, it so sounds like nitpicking if i ever heard of it. :lol
 
icarus-daedelus said:
Different taste? :P
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how the hell is that in the taste category? Disliking a film just because of songs (that have meanings by the way for the film) have nothing to do with taste.
 
Absinthe said:
It's sentimental pap that tried to pull heart strings but ended up annoying the piss out of me.
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It's sentimental awesomeness. It's the feelgood movie of the century, both this and the last one :O
 
icarus-daedelus said:
Have you never had anyone disagree with you before, or something? You are taking this whole "some people hate Forrest Gump" thing pretty hard, and I'm not really sure why.
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i just don't get why you dislike the entire film because of the music. Anyway, what films do you like that have the music just right?
 
ItsInMyVeins said:
It's sentimental awesomeness. It's the feelgood movie of the century, both this and the last one :O
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When I feel like I'm being manipulated it is impossible for me to feel good. That's the whole problem with the movie. The character is an underdog and mentally handicapped. That's fine, but do not throw unbelievable situation after unbelievable situation at me and expect me to applaud such petty tactics. It's too tidy and it comes across as some idealistic fairy tale.
 
Absinthe said:
When I feel like I'm being manipulated it is impossible for me to feel good. That's the whole problem with the movie. The character is an underdog and mentally handicapped. That's fine, but do not throw unbelievable situation after unbelievable situation at me and expect me to applaud such petty tactics. It's too tidy and it comes across as some idealistic fairy tale.
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Now this is an actual complaint.
 
Absinthe said:
When I feel like I'm being manipulated it is impossible for me to feel good. That's the whole problem with the movie. The character is an underdog and mentally handicapped. That's fine, but do not throw unbelievable situation after unbelievable situation at me and expect me to applaud such petty tactics. It's too tidy and it comes across as some idealistic fairy tale.
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It is an idealistic fairy tale and it is spectacular and that's the whole point of the movie. It's not a documentary, you know.
 
ItsInMyVeins said:
It is an idealistic fairy tale and it is spectacular and and that's the whole point of the movie. It's not a documentary, you know.
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Well, I don't go to a movie to be bombarded with that kind of thing. Spielberg is guilty of doing that in nearly all of his films so I shouldn't have been surprised.
 
ItsInMyVeins said:
It is an idealistic fairy tale and it is spectacular and that's the whole point of the movie. It's not a documentary, you know.
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exactly, i don't understand that part of his post. surely he must have known the movie was fictional and was meant to take us through era through era.
 
Absinthe said:
Well, I don't go to a movie to be bombarded with that kind of thing. Spielberg is guilty of doing that in nearly all of his films so I shouldn't have been surprised.
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And yet he's probably one of most important directors to date. But it wasn't Spielberg who directed Forrest Gump.
 
ItsInMyVeins said:
And yet he's probably one of most important directors to date. But it wasn't Spielberg who directed Forrest Gump.
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My fault, I was thinking of the wrong film. What I said still stands though. They tried to make the end of the movie tragic, but I'm not going to feel sympathy for some asshole that has had every lucky break in the world.
 
Absinthe said:
Well, I don't go to a movie to be bombarded with that kind of thing. Spielberg is guilty of doing that in nearly all of his films so I shouldn't have been surprised.
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bombarded with what thing? You disliked the era to era device in the movie?

Absinthe said:
My fault, I was thinking of the wrong film. What I said still stands though. They tried to make the end of the movie tragic, but I'm not going to feel sympathy for some asshole that has had every lucky break in the world.
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I think it was the total opposite, he had a smart healthy boy and he finally could let go of jenny. it wasn't aiming to be tragic at the end. But if you didn't smile at the end, well, i'm sorry.
 
Absinthe said:
My fault, I was thinking of the wrong film. What I said still stands though. They tried to make the end of the movie tragic, but I'm not going to feel sympathy for some asshole that has had every lucky break in the world.
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Uh? The ending is pretty happy, all in all?
 
ari said:
bombarded with what thing? You disliked the era to era device in the movie? gtfo.
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Listen, I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you. Nothing you say is going to magically make me like the character or the film. And vice versa. I didn't post into this thread to argue the merits or lack thereof of the film.
 
Absinthe said:
Listen, I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you. Nothing you say is going to magically make me like the character or the film. And vice versa. I didn't post into this thread to argue the merits or lack thereof of the film.
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You went out your way to defend your buddy icarus in a heated argument. :p

i fail to see how you not knew this would happen.
 
Can't say I liked the movie all that much. Nothing in particular I didn't like: the acting was good, cinematography was great, as was the score. Just overall it felt like the movies motto was "lets make America feel really good about itself" and I found that to be a little repulsive.
 
I'm just going to say that a whole lot of you need better taste, but on a board where anime is widely watched that probably goes without saying.
 
Triumph said:
I'm just going to say that a whole lot of you need better taste, but on a board where anime is widely watched that probably goes without saying.
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you hated the movie??? You have no soul
 
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