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Making a classic gaming computer...what OS do I go with?

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Recently upgraded my computer to something that resembles modern technology, but I hate to let my old computer go to waste. So I think I'm gonna turn it into a dedicated classic gaming computer. Gonna stick DOS and XP (mostly for some things that aren't game-related) on there, but I need an OS that old games will play in natively outside of DOS too.

So what's the best pick: Windows 95, 98, or Me?
 
dos + 98 second edition is probably the best combo. I did this a while back

..and man it's hard to return to 98 hehe

edit: I rebuilt the computer for demo scene stuff though. gus max and all :O~ not really enough stuff incompatible with newer windows' or that doesn't work with dosbox gamingwise to bother with this pain
 
Megadragon15 said:
Get Windows 98 Second Edition.
Yeah, it was actually quite stable. Of course you might have a hard time finding it legally. :( I got it years back when you could still order it but even then I probably had to use newegg or something else secondhand.
 
Y2Kev said:
Go with windows ME, it's incredibly stable and compatible with almost everything.
We should think about having those man-children again. <3

Go with 98. 2k is a bit better in terms of OSiness but I remember it having some middling issues with some games.
 
Your secondary computer would have a better use at being a router in a different room, perhaps an emulation machine (in another room, like a MAME cabinet without the.. you know... cabinet).

I use my old Pentium 4 as a Wifi signal scanner/connector from whenever my internet fails and I need some internet access (as I live near a school that has open wifi). IT doesn't even have a monitor hooked to it (i just remote desktop everything).

Depending on your computer, you could make it a DivX/XviD playing machine, and you can even play some 720p with CoreAVC, but YMMV.
 
If the games won't run in DOSBox, then use VirtualBox and set up a virtual pure MS-DOS image. VirtualBox works quite a bit better than Virtual PC, and it's free, but it's the same concept.

You're already putting XP on it, so you'll be set for native Windows games.
 
RevenantKioku said:
We should think about having those man-children again. <3

Go with 98. 2k is a bit better in terms of OSiness but I remember it having some middling issues with some games.
2000 was <3 but it is incompatible w/some games that run on DOS/win 3.1 or even 95 since it's NT based. Therefore Win 98 SE is the way to go.
 
i've never thrown anything at xp or 7 that they will not run.

in 2000 i had trouble with need for speed III, IV, Porche
 
Y2Kev said:
Go with windows ME, it's incredibly stable and compatible with almost everything.

Now that's just cruel.

Go with 98 SE.

EDIT: And while Win 2K is a great OS, it's not really all that well-suited for gaming.
 
another vote for Windows ME.

I was one of the guys where this one ran for years and Win 98 SE was "destroyed" every 2 months :(

I've a Windows ME Virtual PC running to play older games. Works great as long as they don't need graphics :)
 
Note -- Most games do work on new OSes. I have hundreds of PC games, and of the Windows ones, only a very few actually don't work on my newer, Windows Vista 32-bit PC. It's a bare handful of a large number of titles. Use compatibility mode, the other options, DOSBox... that'll get most stuff working. But there are those few stubborn games that I'm unable to get working, and for those there's DOSBox...

Which games have I been unable to get to work? Hmm... Scorched Planet works, but not correctly. Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure works, but you can only play in a window, fullscreen crashes it. Heavy Gear 2's speed is messed up so mech legs look like they're moving at hyperspeed, even while they actually aren't moving any faster than they should (maybe slower, actually?). A few games don't work at all, including Q-Bert (Hasbro's remake), Front Page Sports: Ski Racing, and Metal Gear Solid 2 Substance. There are a couple more I have which don't work, but I forget them offhand. But really, it's surprising how many do work even on Vista.

(Oh, anyone with 64-bit Windows will have a much greater need for an older PC, because any Windows 3.1 or before game will not work, and even many later games use 16-bit installers, making it impossible to install the games, even though if they were installed they'd work. 32-bit doesn't have that problem, so compatibility is much better.)

Yottamol said:
:lol

(...thinking back...Windows ME was my only OS for six years...)

Same here, WinME was my only OS for 5 1/2 years, and that old machine, over nine years old now, still works. Yeah, it crashes a lot, but it still works, and it'll play most of those games that DOSBox and Vista can't (Windows titles incompatible with XP/Vista/7, mostly, DOSBox does a good job with most DOS games; there are some that don't really work and require an older machine, though).

I'd say Win 98 SE is the better OS, but ME does work. Oh, I never cared much about the removal of easy access to real DOS mode because, first, you can use a boot disk to get to it if you want, and second, my WinME computer has a Soundblaster Live! soundcard, and with Creative's Win98 drivers installed, it's got great emulated DOS Soundblaster 16, MIDI, etc. support. (The card came with the computer, and came with two CDs of drivers, one for WinMe and one for Win98; the default ME drivers had no DOS Soundblaster support, which was pretty frustrating, until I tried installing the Win98 drivers over the ME ones. That fixed the problem, DOS emulation added. :))

Oh, and while it does crash or slow down and need a reboot a lot, as I said, that WinME machine still works, and has never had a major hardware failure, needed a reformat, or anything since I got it in late 2001. Still running on the original installation. ME's really not as bad as it's claimed. It's not great, sure, and they did some pretty stupid things with it (why was DOS mode hidden, why does System Restore not really work (I know, System Restore works fine in XP, Vista, etc, but ME... not so much), why is it less stable and crash more, etc, but they added some things too, and if you know what you're doing it'll work well enough.

Of course another option is just getting an SB16 or AWE32 or what have you.

Oh yeah, and a 3DFX card of some kind (as an addon card of course) is probably worth it... a lot of late '90s games really benefit from it, and there's nothing quite like the real thing. Even on newer machines, with the various 3DFX driver emulators that are out there, they won't work with every game like the real card will, and those emulators are unlikely to work well on an older machine anyway. I'm not sure which is the best Voodoo card though, Voodoo2 or Voodoo3?
 
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