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[Walliwallipaloo]

But stuff could also feed their urge to hurt actual kids cause they're getting off to junk like this game. I guess my actual issue is that storefronts should start regulating stuff like this much more seriously and banning it.

I think the game must be a completely distasteful piece of trash with no artistic merit, (I wouldn't know, because I ain't looking it up) but with that being said...

Remember this statement of yours the next time you use the "attack" command in your JRPG of choice. Any dumbshit politician could use that same obtuse logic against basically anything.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

Remember this statement of yours the next time you use the "attack" command in your JRPG of choice. Any dumbshit politician could use that same obtuse logic against basically anything.

Yes.

There's also a reason why only child molestors have a significantly higher chance than anybody else to get murdered in prison by other inmates, all around the world. Think about that. Even the lowest of the low doing God's work by killing them. People do not want anyone to mess with kids. That's the red line that can't ever be crossed.

 

[poodaddy]

Gross ass game, but this is an extreme showing from my dream country to move to. It doesn't change that it's my dream land, but I do think that's a bit excessive.

 

[Tams]

Welp, almost all of us on here are mass murderers by this legal 'logic'. Not to mention the torture and humiliation we've imposed on NPCs.

I just killed over a 100 this evening in Battlefield 6.

 

[PlayStaytion]

Someone sick who has the guts to create such thing, it can't be created by a normal person. It's the same thing with romance stories with murderers, who'd create such thing let alone even thinking about it.

 

[Shifty1897]

But I thought Norway was the happiest country in the world. Did they ask this guy?

 

[coffinbirth]

This disgusting from all angles.
But this part really fucked me up.
"a visual novel about caring for a young girl who has been abused by her former owner"
JFC

 

[deriks]

Censorship with love, guys

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Let me know you're still here and doing alright.

 

[digital_ghost]

 

[Sinozen]

Well it's not surprising since people get locked up for social media posts. If you don't have free speech then this is what happens. No matter what you feel about the content, it's not real. If you want to make the argument that it has real world implications then you're essentially in the boat of video games causing violence which has been proven to be the opposite. Nobody should be in jail over fictional content.

 

[IFireflyl]

Well it's not surprising since people get locked up for social media posts. If you don't have free speech then this is what happens. No matter what you feel about the content, it's not real. If you want to make the argument that it has real world implications then you're essentially in the boat of video games causing violence which has been proven to be the opposite. Nobody should be in jail over fictional content.

Just to confirm, you think it's fine if someone makes a violent rape simulator game where all of the victims are 7 year old boys and girls because "it's just digital pixels"? I just want to make sure I understand that you don't have a line in the sand, and every obscene thing is permitted in your view.

 

[Kagoshima_Luke]

How did they find out he was playing this game? Are the ISPs reporting stuff like this to the authorities/government? Is this part of normal surveillance in socialist (sorry, social-capitalist) Norway?

 

[Icymanipulator]

But don't they invite tons of Muslim Islamists to their countries? Those people all believe, practice, and support marriage and sex with girls as young as 9 years old.

The hypocrisy of arresting this guy for a video game when Islamist Muslims do far worse in real life is astounding.

 

[Sinozen]

Just to confirm, you think it's fine if someone makes a violent rape simulator game where all of the victims are 7 year old boys and girls because "it's just digital pixels"? I just want to make sure I understand that you don't have a line in the sand, and every obscene thing is permitted in your view.

It's not about it being pixels, you can say that about real CSAM people distribute which is an issue. If something is purely of the mind (and is 100% fictional) why would you think that's appropriate using resources to jail someone when there are people committing real heinous crime against children? Europe has a huge issue with child abuse and they're doing everything they can to evade dealing with it.

 

[Hugare]

Regardless of the game being of very poor taste or not (it is), I fail to see how a fictional character can be treated as a natural person on a legal standing.

To me it's all about intention

You dont play a visual novel like this for the gameplay. Dude was using it to jerk off to little girls being abused. That's fucked up.

With that, comes the question: "does the consumption of such material affect the individual and his actions in society?". Like, chances are higher of him becoming an abuser by consuming those materials?
It's not even a fantasy of consexual sex, it's abusive. A dominance roleplay. Those people have the urge of having dominance over minors. I doubt that he wouldnt think of replicating those stuff in real life at least once.

I dont want to sound like an hypocrite 'cause I consume porn (not like that tho) and violent games/movies, but I'm pretty sure that there's correlation between society being safer in a time where people passed out watching Psycho and now where we are numb to porn/violence and society is as deranged and unsafe as ever.

I'm interested in psychology and I'm curious about stuff like these, but I'm too affraid of searching for it on Google and entering my government's list of individuals to be aware of or something lol

 

[Pelao]

If you're not going to be consistent in how you treat pedos, at least go after the ones who molest real children, for fuck's sake.
I don't like these kinds of games, but they're just fucking pixels.

 

[IFireflyl]

It's not about it being pixels, you can say that about real CSAM people distribute which is an issue. If something is purely of the mind (and is 100% fictional) why would you think that's appropriate using resources to jail someone when there are people committing real heinous crime against children? Europe has a huge issue with child abuse and they're doing everything they can to evade dealing with it.

Got it. Nothing is off limits to you. That's wrong on every conceivable level. Anyone defending stuff like that is screwed up in the head. This thread disgusts me. There are far too many people upset about the government rather than the content. "ThE gOvErNmEnT sHoUlDn'T bE aBlE tO tElL mE hOw To LiVe My LiFe!" As soon as everyone behaves with a proper moral compass, then we can do away with governments. Until then, we need to regulate some stuff. It's absurd that you people don't understand this.

 

[Sinozen]

Got it. Nothing is off limits to you. That's wrong on every conceivable level. Anyone defending stuff like that is screwed up in the head. This thread disgusts me. There are far too many people upset about the government rather than the content. "ThE gOvErNmEnT sHoUlDn'T bE aBlE tO tElL mE hOw To LiVe My LiFe!" As soon as everyone behaves with a proper moral compass, then we can do away with governments. Until then, we need to regulate some stuff. It's absurd that you people don't understand this.

My morality involves what happens in reality, not in a video game or someone's mind. People are mad at the government because they protect real pedophiles that hurt real kids. Playing a video game does not even remotely equate to that and if you think it does you're part of why the government gets away with doing severely unjust things.

 

[Hugare]

If you're not going to be consistent in how you treat pedos, at least go after the ones who molest real children, for fuck's sake.
I don't like these kinds of games, but they're just fucking pixels.

After googling it a bit, I found out he was actually arrested for distributing content of real women being abused (people have mentioned exactly what the abuse was, but English isnt my first language and Im not searching that)

"They are just pixels"

Anyway, in other news

Article:

The Last Us Part 2's Laura Bailey Getting Death Threats Over Abby Role

Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2020/07/05/the-last-us-part-2s-laura-bailey-getting-death-threats-over-abby-role/

Article:

This Man Married a Fictional Character. He'd Like You to Hear Him Out

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/24/business/akihiko-kondo-fictional-character-relationships.html

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Regardless of the game being of very poor taste or not (it is), I fail to see how a fictional character can be treated as a natural person on a legal standing.

Guess not everyone agrees that girl is a 5000-year old dragon.

 

[Moriarty1889]

But don't they invite tons of Muslim Islamists to their countries? Those people all believe, practice, and support marriage and sex with girls as young as 9 years old.

The hypocrisy of arresting this guy for a video game when Islamist Muslims do far worse in real life is astounding.

You make an excellent point but the crazy thing is they would rather not be called islamophobic for calling out that group with those disturbing realities. Much easier to go after this individual and make an example out of him. That is the crazy world we live in today. People being absolute cowards towards some while being completely ruthless to others for fear of being labeled in the wrong light.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Let me know you're still here and doing alright.

He is my friend

Don't bother my friends.

 

[emivita]

In Skyrim you can ehm... adopt random children and put them in your house doing services for you like cleaning. I wonder how many perverts find this amusing.

 

[Icymanipulator]

You make an excellent point but the crazy thing is they would rather not be called islamophobic for calling out that group with those disturbing realities. Much easier to go after this individual and make an example out of him. That is the crazy world we live in today. People being absolute cowards towards some while being completely ruthless to others for fear of being labeled in the wrong light.

I see this all over Europe recently. Fear of being labeled "Islamophobic" (no such thing imo) is more important than little girls being raped. SMH. It's disgusting.

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

Got it. Nothing is off limits to you. That's wrong on every conceivable level. Anyone defending stuff like that is screwed up in the head. This thread disgusts me. There are far too many people upset about the government rather than the content. "ThE gOvErNmEnT sHoUlDn'T bE aBlE tO tElL mE hOw To LiVe My LiFe!" As soon as everyone behaves with a proper moral compass, then we can do away with governments. Until then, we need to regulate some stuff. It's absurd that you people don't understand this.

But it's... not real. Nobody is getting hurt. Nobody is in danger. A piece of media can be gross or morally reprehensible without needing to be illegal. There's absolutely a middle ground, however tasteless the game in question might be.

 

[near]

But it's... not real. Nobody is getting hurt. Nobody is in danger. A piece of media can be gross or morally reprehensible without needing to be illegal. There's absolutely a middle ground, however tasteless the game in question might be.

The concern isn't only about harming children, it's about what this sort of content represents. Sexualised depictions of minors like this here is created for the purpose of someone indulging a scenario abusive and criminal in the real world. Drawing the line here is perfectly fine to me. It's a moral stance.

 

[Senua]

He is my friend

Don't bother my friends.

 

[kat_on_the_roof]

It's illegal in Norway. He owned and played it anyway. Now he has to face the consequences. I don't understand the fuss. There's really not much to say about the game's content, even if it only features fictional characters. It trivializes/minimizes child sexual abuse. In my opinion, it's rightly banned and should be considered a crime.

People who play it / defend it should check their moral priorities

 

[Fess]

The concern isn't only about harming children, it's about what this sort of content represents. Sexualised depictions of minors like this here is created for the purpose of someone indulging a scenario abusive and criminal in the real world. Drawing the line here is perfectly fine to me. It's a moral stance.

Yeah people seriously need to sort out their moral compass, can't hide everything behind "it's not real".

 

[kevboard]

anyone who is pro censorship of fiction is in the same boat as those idiots that tried to ban Mortal Kombat or GTA.

"moral compass" my ass. the same bullshit argument was used against the aforementioned games because they "promote violence" or turn people violent. tons of studies have shown this is nonsense. and I bet there are studies for stuff like this that show the same, as it's the exact same principle.

if you can't differentiate fiction from reality, that says more about you than anything. probably pure projection for many for those who are especially militant, which we have tons of examples for in fact.

this shit is always a slippery slope. if you are backing censorship of fiction, eventually people will censore the fiction your "moral compass" was fine with.

 

[Fahdis]

But don't they invite tons of Muslim Islamists to their countries? Those people all believe, practice, and support marriage and sex with girls as young as 9 years old.

The hypocrisy of arresting this guy for a video game when Islamist Muslims do far worse in real life is astounding.

I really wanted to ignore this post but I can't.

I'm a Muslim, why are you bringing learned right wing rhetoric on a gaming forum and some of you are saying it without saying it. No dude, we are not all the same. Islamists denotes extremism, to then which I will agree, because they are the outcasts of our society.

Most of what you said can be applied to any "past" empire of any country where culture was more apparent outside/inside the realm of theological politics. And you cannot brush us all with the same stroke of opinion that you just wrote. If your implication was moderate Muslims, no, we don't "ALL" believe or support marriage and sex with girls as young as 9 or even 17 years old. Those are pedophile's under the guise of religion in this day and age. Under your assumption, most western nobles, monarchs and other aspects of your society were in the same trenches including religion at that time. It still happens where the age of consent is 13-15 in some European countries to American States. I'll bring receipts in DM if you like.

If you want to blame someone, blame your governments, senate, lobbyists, congress and parliament or what have you for taking in unchecked individuals in an unvetted asylum system that takes in any degenerate without having interviews to know they are a good fit for your society. Most don't assimilate exactly because of people like you and may have issues due to geo-political strife that the west is directly involved with. You live on fear of differences when that's what the elite want you to believe to keep themselves in power.

Man, I love GAF but people like you make this place such an odd experience for people like me. I'm a person of color and I was raised in Canada, a multi-cultural society. Maybe diversifying your friends would help you live outside your echo-chamber.

 

[Guilty_AI]

After googling it a bit, I found out he was actually arrested for distributing content of real women being abused (people have mentioned exactly what the abuse was, but English isnt my first language and Im not searching that)

The content he shared were images of the game itself, not real content. So much so he only got 60 days. Supposedly how he got caught too.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Got it. Nothing is off limits to you. That's wrong on every conceivable level. Anyone defending stuff like that is screwed up in the head. This thread disgusts me. There are far too many people upset about the government rather than the content. "ThE gOvErNmEnT sHoUlDn'T bE aBlE tO tElL mE hOw To LiVe My LiFe!" As soon as everyone behaves with a proper moral compass, then we can do away with governments. Until then, we need to regulate some stuff. It's absurd that you people don't understand this.

You expect the government to have a moral compass and guide the compass of people, and you say others are screwed in the head? We call it the leviathan for a reason, its the absolute worst thing you can use to police morals.

 

[digimaster7]

Got it. Nothing is off limits to you. That's wrong on every conceivable level. Anyone defending stuff like that is screwed up in the head. This thread disgusts me. There are far too many people upset about the government rather than the content. "ThE gOvErNmEnT sHoUlDn'T bE aBlE tO tElL mE hOw To LiVe My LiFe!" As soon as everyone behaves with a proper moral compass, then we can do away with governments. Until then, we need to regulate some stuff. It's absurd that you people don't understand this.

Pixels don't have human rights, sorry if you can't understand that.

people like you are gonna be the first one to give human rights to a fucking robot because they look or act "human" enough

 

[Lambogenie]

I really wanted to ignore this post but I can't.

I'm a Muslim, why are you bringing learned right wing rhetoric on a gaming forum and some of you are saying it without saying it. No dude, we are not all the same. Islamists denotes extremism, to then which I will agree, because they are the outcasts of our society.

Most of what you said can be applied to any "past" empire of any country where culture was more apparent outside/inside the realm of theological politics. And you cannot brush us all with the same stroke of opinion that you just wrote. If your implication was moderate Muslims, no, we don't "ALL" believe or support marriage and sex with girls as young as 9 or even 17 years old. Those are pedophile's under the guise of religion in this day and age. Under your assumption, most western nobles, monarchs and other aspects of your society were in the same trenches including religion at that time. It still happens where the age of consent is 13-15 in some European countries to American States. I'll bring receipts in DM if you like.

If you want to blame someone, blame your governments, senate, lobbyists, congress and parliament or what have you for taking in unchecked individuals in an unvetted asylum system that takes in any degenerate without having interviews to know they are a good fit for your society. Most don't assimilate exactly because of people like you and may have issues due to geo-political strife that the west is directly involved with. You live on fear of differences when that's what the elite want you to believe to keep themselves in power.

Man, I love GAF but people like you make this place such an odd experience for people like me. I'm a person of color and I was raised in Canada, a multi-cultural society. Maybe diversifying your friends would help you live outside your echo-chamber.

Agreed.

 

[Peroroncino]

Wow, talk about a complete retardation.

 

[Jesb]

When did the world turn into complete brain rot. What date and time was it?

 

[Barakov]

Censorship with love, guys

 

[The Sum of Zero]

EDIT: You know what, not even going to bother.

 

[Toots]

Regardless of the game being of very poor taste or not (it is), I fail to see how a fictional character can be treated as a natural person on a legal standing.

I can see the logic behind the sentence.
Distribution of explicit material of an underage model (even if virtual) is not the same as being a filthy gooner on one's own.

 

[Toots]

Most people I know that play it treat her like a daughter and no more.

L O to the motherfucking L
They are the salt of the earth, playing their rotten pedo hentai game in such a moral way.

 

[Paasei]

Kinda silly. It's a fucking video game.

 

[wa600]

To me it's all about intention

You dont play a visual novel like this for the gameplay. Dude was using it to jerk off to little girls being abused. That's fucked up.

With that, comes the question: "does the consumption of such material affect the individual and his actions in society?". Like, chances are higher of him becoming an abuser by consuming those materials?
It's not even a fantasy of consexual sex, it's abusive. A dominance roleplay. Those people have the urge of having dominance over minors. I doubt that he wouldnt think of replicating those stuff in real life at least once.

I dont want to sound like an hypocrite 'cause I consume porn (not like that tho) and violent games/movies, but I'm pretty sure that there's correlation between society being safer in a time where people passed out watching Psycho and now where we are numb to porn/violence and society is as deranged and unsafe as ever.

I'm interested in psychology and I'm curious about stuff like these, but I'm too affraid of searching for it on Google and entering my government's list of individuals to be aware of or something lol

By this logic Japan should be a society full of pedophiles and sexual abusers.

Why are we actually equating things happening in a porn game 1:1 to reality when we don't do this in any other genre? If I love running over people with a car in GTA, does this mean I love doing this in RL? Everybody knows its fiction. Is it different because its porn? I like watching mother-son incest when consuming porn. Now someone would assume thats because I have sexual phantasies about my own mother. Just typing this shit and thinking about it disgusts me though. In general I think its messed up in RL. But thats the thing. One thing is real, the other is fictional. People have all kind of Roleplays-fetishes, doesnt mean shit. If my girlfriend wants me to play a stranger during sex and "abuse" her, it does not mean she wants this actually happening to her.

Maybe someone has the numbers and rape (in general) or sexual abuse of minors is actually significantly lower in Norway compared to the rest of the world (and Japan is actually a lot higher?). I still find it ridiculous to sentence someone to 3 years in prison for something where nobody was hurt. Its kinda off-topic, but I know someone who died in a car accident. He (and another person in that car) were killed while the other driver was under the influence of alcohol and drugs and was driving at almost twice the legal speed limit. That driver was also sentenced to 3 years even though It was determined that he was solely responsible for the accident.
Sure its not Norway, but Europe as well. But in one case no one was hurt and in the other case two people were killed.
I am all for punishing real sexual abuse (especially of minors) in the harshest way possible, but this I find absurd.

 

[AeonGaidenRaiden]

Downloading now

 

[AeonGaidenRaiden]

By this logic Japan should be a society full of pedophiles and sexual abusers.

Why are we actually equating things happening in a porn game 1:1 to reality when we don't do this in any other genre? If I love running over people with a car in GTA, does this mean I love doing this in RL? Everybody knows its fiction. Is it different because its porn? I like watching mother-son incest when consuming porn. Now someone would assume thats because I have sexual phantasies about my own mother. Just typing this shit and thinking about it disgusts me though. In general I think its messed up in RL. But thats the thing. One thing is real, the other is fictional. People have all kind of Roleplays-fetishes, doesnt mean shit. If my girlfriend wants me to play a stranger during sex and "abuse" her, it does not mean she wants this actually happening to her.

Maybe someone has the numbers and rape (in general) or sexual abuse of minors is actually significantly lower in Norway compared to the rest of the world (and Japan is actually a lot higher?). I still find it ridiculous to sentence someone to 3 years in prison for something where nobody was hurt. Its kinda off-topic, but I know someone who died in a car accident. He (and another person in that car) were killed while the other driver was under the influence of alcohol and drugs and was driving at almost twice the legal speed limit. That driver was also sentenced to 3 years even though It was determined that he was solely responsible for the accident.
Sure its not Norway, but Europe as well. But in one case no one was hurt and in the other case two people were killed.
I am all for punishing real sexual abuse (especially of minors) in the harshest way possible, but this I find absurd.

Exactly. Its absolutely fine to dismember bodies in games, we applaud how gory it is yet some slideshow drawings of an imaginary girl saying something sexual, you must be a pedophile. But somehow you arent a sicko if you enjoy slitting throats and shooting off limbs one by one for your enjoyment in video games. Then you are a "hell yeah dude". Luckily, aint nobody stopping Japan:

New Japanese Policy Proposal Seeks To Defend "Creative Freedom" For Anime, Manga, And Video Games

As censorship increases around the world, the Japanese government is seeking to protect its anime, manga, and video game creators.

boundingintocomics.com

 

[AeonGaidenRaiden]

Are theses games are on Steam? If so how Steam allows games like this be on their store front?

Not just Steam both PlayStation and Nintendo has pure shit on their store which I'm wondering how the fuck it got approved by Sony and Nintendo.

Torrent websites have it. And seems like the game gets regular updates each year, Im guessing fixing the translation.

 

[Gaiff]

I wouldn't touch this game with a 10-foot pole, but you all remember Rapelay by Illusion, right? It's a rape simulator and most of us would find it moronic for people to get arrested over owning it. The same logic applies here. Should we allow games that depicts the rape of adults, but ban those that depict the abuse assault of minors?

You can't play the moral police and go "think of the children" if you support games where murder and mass killing is a core part of the gameplay.

 

[PlayStaytion]

Just to confirm, you think it's fine if someone makes a violent rape simulator game where all of the victims are 7 year old boys and girls because "it's just digital pixels"? I just want to make sure I understand that you don't have a line in the sand, and every obscene thing is permitted in your view.

It's far more unacceptable to who saw similar stuff from the real world. luckily I'm not one of these people but I completely understand their view.

 

[Jormatar]

Fucking serves him right. Check his hard drive while we are it for a few years extra.