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[Shins]

I'm angry that there are people who sympathize with someone who, in his mind, was willingly transmitting a disease that he knew would kill the victim. Any decent fucking human being would be.

RAWR

 

[dark steve]

Has the general IQ of GAF dropped steeply in the last 24 hours? Anyone with any hint of reading comprehension would be able to pick out the correlation between "angry" and the following sentence. If that was troubling for you, your only true excuse would be found in the possibility of English being your second language instead of your first.

Considering your clueless responses pertaining to this case and the way that intent is handled during sentencing, I'm not surprised.

Listen, I'm a native English speaker of no minor literary experience. If a mistake was made, it was in the writing, not the reading. I can't help it if your mistakes taint my reaction, however distasteful I may find that.

 

[SUPREME1]

Listen, I'm a native English speaker of no minor literary experience. If a mistake was made, it was in the writing, not the reading. I can't help it if your mistakes taint my reaction, however distasteful I may find that.

Lulz. Both of you stfu. Acting like some bicchhhezzzz.

:lol

 

[WickedAngel]

Listen, I'm a native English speaker of no minor literary experience. If a mistake was made, it was in the writing, not the reading. I can't help it if your mistakes taint my reaction, however distasteful I may find that.

I don't consider a fifth grade education in linguistics to be any significant indication of literary experience so perhaps you'll be so kind as to remove yourself from these types of discussions and frequent a board that is more suited to your skill level (Perhaps Gamefaqs).

 

[SUPREME1]

^^^Sh*t just got real.

 

[WickedAngel]

^^^Sh*t just got real.

Instigator Part Deux

 

[SUPREME1]

Instigator Part Deux

Forgive me, I've got a mad sugar high going.

 

[Andokuky]

Who is to say the bum didn't KNOW he wouldn't be able to pass on the virus by just spitting on someone? He has the disease himself, he probably knows a bit about it.

 

[SnakeswithLasers]

Who is to say the bum didn't KNOW he wouldn't be able to pass on the virus by just spitting on someone? He has the disease himself, he probably knows a bit about it.

That would explain why Wicked Angel knows so much about genital herpes...

Spoiler

OMG KIDDING, EVERYONE JUST NEEDS TO SETTLE DOWN!

 

[WickedAngel]

That would explain why Wicked Angel knows so much about genital herpes...

Spoiler

OMG KIDDING, EVERYONE JUST NEEDS TO SETTLE DOWN!

You told me you had acne, sailor.

 

[SnakeswithLasers]

You told me you had acne, sailor.

I swear, I didn't know I was contagious. =/

 

[dark steve]

I don't consider a fifth grade education in linguistics to be any significant indication of literary experience so perhaps you'll be so kind as to remove yourself from these types of discussions and frequent a board that is more suited to your skill level (Perhaps Gamefaqs).

You seem unable to let this issue go or post without attempting to define me. Are you perhaps seeking a relationship?

 

[Diablos]

A bit intense.

 

[nestea]

Who is to say the bum didn't KNOW he wouldn't be able to pass on the virus by just spitting on someone? He has the disease himself, he probably knows a bit about it.

This doesn't seem like the type of guy who knows that HIV can't travel through saliva. Mind you, he was intoxicated during the incident as well.

Mr. Henrichs added that his client had been indicted under a habitual-offender statute that increased the penalty in his case to a minimum of 25 years in prison, because he had been convicted of attacking two other officers in a similar manner and biting two inmates, as well as more than two dozen other offenses.

“You can see why we thought that we needed to get this guy off the streets,” said Jenni Morse, who prosecuted the current case.

None of the three officers attacked by Mr. Campbell contracted H.I.V., Ms. Morse said.

After Mr. Campbell was convicted by a jury, he shouted at the prosecutor and police officers, calling them liars and telling them to “rot in hell” for “railroading an innocent man.” He was forced to listen to the rest of sentencing from a holding cell.

Mr. Campbell waived his right to appeal and is awaiting transfer from the Dallas jail to prison.

 

[HolyStar]

Wow, you guys don't know what you are talking about. If you TRY to kill someone, but end up not hurting a soul, should that mean you get off the hook? Hell no, you get 25-to-life for doing that. Look, even if it can't transmit, he can easily bite the inside of his mouth so that there is blood in his spit and then bam. Spit won't transmit it, but even if he didn't have HIV, that is still 5-10 at least. I swear, some of you guys don't know shit.

 

[Andokuky]

This doesn't seem like the type of guy who knows that HIV can't travel through saliva. Mind you, he was intoxicated during the incident as well.

Nothing in any article I have read states as such. (I mean the whole "not the type of guy" thing)

Wow, you guys don't know what you are talking about. If you TRY to kill someone, but end up not hurting a soul, should that mean you get off the hook? Hell no, you get 25-to-life for doing that. Look, even if it can't transmit, he can easily bite the inside of his mouth so that there is blood in his spit and then bam. Spit won't transmit it, but even if he didn't have HIV, that is still 5-10 at least. I swear, some of you guys don't know shit.

He didn't bite the inside of his mouth and spit blood though, he spit 100% harmless saliva. If I shoot a cop with a water gun I guess I'm going to prison? :lol

 

[thekad]

I think the ones who "don't know shit" are the ones comparing an unloaded gun to saliva.

But that's just me.

 

[itsinmyveins]

nestea:

Doesn't that quote imply that he should know that it's not contagious via saliva? I mean, if he's been in similar situations before and have been tried for them?

 

[Anasui Kishibe]

I need to visit that state like I need to watch Transformers 2

 

[mugwhump]

Oh, Texas. -_-

 

[MrToughPants]

-3 meals a day
-daily showers
-clean bed sheets
-work for money in the prison
-free sex
-free education
-certain luxuries like TV, cigarettes, drugs

Why would a homeless person not want to go to prison?

 

[nestea]

nestea:

Doesn't that quote imply that he should know that it's not contagious via saliva? I mean, if he's been in similar situations before and have been tried for them?

Similar manner doesn't mean spat on their faces and taunted them saying they would contract HIV. Similar manner could just mean drunk and confrontational. I meant at face value, he seems like the type of violent uneducated individual that would try something like this.

 

[Hitman]

Free room & board for 35 years with meals...good deal for a homeless man.

Having no freedom and being ass raped in prison for 35 years. i'd rather be homeless.

 

[WickedAngel]

I think the ones who "don't know shit" are the ones comparing an unloaded gun to saliva.

But that's just me.

Or perhaps we're the only ones who are aware that an open sore or bleeding gums in his mouth could have been in the saliva that was spit.

Saliva doesn't transmit HIV. The complete opposite is true of blood in the saliva.

*Edit*

And that isn't even important anyways. The homeless man thought he could transmit HIV via spitting and intended to give HIV to the officer, guaranteeing untimely death. It isn't terribly hard to understand.

 

[itsinmyveins]

Similar manner doesn't mean spat on their faces and taunted them saying they would contract HIV. Similar manner could just mean drunk and confrontational. I meant at face value, he seems like the type of violent uneducated individual that would try something like this.

Yeah, maybe. Or he just knew that it'd pretty much freak anyone out.

The homeless man thought he could transmit HIV via spitting and intended to give HIV to the officer, guaranteeing untimely death. It isn't terribly hard to understand.

He thought that?

 

[WickedAngel]

He thought that?

Apparently he did; otherwise, his defense attorney would have been arguing that point instead of making the assertion that he didn't spit in the first place.

 

[itsinmyveins]

Apparently he did; otherwise, his defense attorney would have been arguing that point instead of making the assertion that he didn't spit in the first place.

Couldn't they argue for that even if they know that he doesn't?

 

[WickedAngel]

Couldn't they argue for that even if they know that he doesn't?

Why not argue for both?

 

[itsinmyveins]

Why not argue for both?

Yeah, you gotta ask his lawyer about that. A lawyer, I assume, who was appointed to the case since the man himself hardly could pay for one.

 

[The Faceless Master]

hrm, repeat offender, tries to infect an officer with HIV via spit (while not actually possible, it's that he thinks it is that matters) yeah i can see how he would get 35 years.

it only looks ridiculous if you don't analyze it.

 

[WickedAngel]

Yeah, you gotta ask his lawyer about that. A lawyer, I assume, who was appointed to the case since the man himself hardly could pay for one.

He should have considered that before breaking the law.

 

[dark steve]

Or perhaps we're the only ones who are aware that an open sore or bleeding gums in his mouth could have been in the saliva that was spit.

could have been in the saliva that was spit.

could have been

could have

could

could

could

Well, hmm. That's pretty damn convincing!

 

[itsinmyveins]

He should have considered that before breaking the law.

And that's beside the point.

I'm not saying they should have just let him off, but 35 years sound like a lot.

 

[WickedAngel]

And that's beside the point.

Not really. At the end of the day, there are multiple angles of this story that all come together to make this man seem deserving of his fate (Attack on a police officer, knowing he was HIV+, the possibility of blood being in the saliva). He may or may not have known that his spit couldn't transmit HIV but that isn't supported by his defense or his statements during the attack. Even if one angle falls away, the others still justify the harsh punishment.

 

[Fun Factor]

lol when I saw the thread title, I KNEW it would be in Texas & it would be a black man.
So far 1 out of 2 right.

 

[OpinionatedCyborg]

lol when I saw the thread title, I KNEW it would be in Texas & it would be a black man.
So far 1 out of 2 right.

You're saying blacks are more likely to spit at people? Racist piece of shit.

 

[Freestyler]

35 years is a tad extreme, I would have gone for 5 or so.

But to those of you defending the guy who blatantly thought he could infect someone by spitting on them - wow, just wow. You must have very little regard for human life, especially the life of a Police officer who spends his days actually helping the community.

This would be like shooting a Policeman with a pistol, but somehow the bullet splits in the chamber and it doesn't end up hurting the Policeman - but fact of the matter is, you intended to cause grievous bodily harm or kill him.

 

[Freestyler]

lol when I saw the thread title, I KNEW it would be in Texas & it would be a black man.
So far 1 out of 2 right.

I actually thought of Singapore straight away, with all their laws against spitting & gum etc.

 

[nestea]

You're saying blacks are more likely to spit at people? Racist piece of shit.

I would just like mention, on the record, I've never been spat at by a black person.

 

[FunkyMunkey]

You can't get it from saliva generally, but if the homeless guy had ANY small cuts in his mouth, along his gum line, teeth, etc. then it is VERY possible to get it.

And it sounds to me like his intent was to transmit the HIV, which is assault. Good sentence.

 

[Timedog]

So wait a sec, If I "try" to kill someone by eating some cheerios for breakfast, and it can be proven that I actually intended to kill that person with my action, I could go to prison?

 

[nestea]

So wait a sec, If I "try" to kill someone by eating some cheerios for breakfast, and it can be proven that I actually intended to kill that person with my action, I could go to prison?

Of course? If you commit an action with the intention of murder it's attempted murder. Unfortunately since HIV doesn't kill right away it wouldn't be considered attempted murder, but damn close.

 

[WickedAngel]

So wait a sec, If I "try" to kill someone by eating some cheerios for breakfast, and it can be proven that I actually intended to kill that person with my action, I could go to prison?

This is the worst comparison that I've ever seen made on GAF. How could your consumption of Cheerios possibly be construed as an attempt on someones life?

 

[Timedog]

Of course? If you commit an action with the intention of murder it's attempted murder. Unfortunately since HIV doesn't kill right away it wouldn't be considered attempted murder, but damn close.

Welp, call the cops on me. I'm going to attempt to murder someone tomorrow morning by eating some cheerios. I might even try it later tonight. I'm gonna try and murder someone by falling asleep. I believe it will work.

This is my confession. Goodbye GAF. Hopefully Jake Gyllenhall is able to finish his next movie after I fall asleep tonight/eat some cheerios. I'm so sorry <3.

How could your consumption of Cheerios possibly be construed as an attempt on someones life?

If intent is all that is looked at......

 

[way more]

Of course? If you commit an action with the intention of murder it's attempted murder. Unfortunately since HIV doesn't kill right away it wouldn't be considered attempted murder, but damn close.

It's not attempted murder because you can't infect anyone with HIV through saliva.

 

[WickedAngel]

Welp, call the cops on me. I'm going to attempt to murder someone tomorrow morning by eating some cheerios. I might even try it later tonight. I'm gonna try and murder someone by falling asleep. I believe it will work.

This is my confession. Goodbye GAF. Hopefully Jake Gyllenhall is able to finish his next movie after I fall asleep tonight/eat some cheerios. I'm so sorry <3.



If intent is all that is looked at......

Please state a single instance where any of us stated that intent was all that is looked at.

It's not attempted murder because you can't infect anyone with HIV through saliva.

Any blood in that saliva can, and will, transmit HIV. This has already been covered. We're all aware that saliva itself can't transmit the virus.

 

[nestea]

Welp, call the cops on me. I'm going to attempt to murder someone tomorrow morning by eating some cheerios. I might even try it later tonight. I'm gonna try and murder someone by falling asleep. I believe it will work.

This is my confession. Goodbye GAF. Hopefully Jake Gyllenhall is able to finish his next movie after I fall asleep tonight/eat some cheerios. I'm so sorry <3.

Want to explain how you intend to murder someone by eating a bowl of cheerios in the first place? I'm curious.

 

[Timedog]

Please state a single instance where any of us stated that intent was all that is looked at.

Of course? If you commit an action with the intention of murder it's attempted murder. Unfortunately since HIV doesn't kill right away it wouldn't be considered attempted murder, but damn close.

.

 

[Rorschach]

Looks like this thread sparked its own little bum fight arena.

 

[WickedAngel]

.

He meant a crime, not an action. You're being facetious (And doing a poor job of it).

*Edit*

We've been talking about criminal acts this entire time. There is no real reason why he should have had to describe it as such since people should be referring to the context of the subject we're speaking of.