I was just saying that the end of the ant arc felt slow, even without them. And the time off clearly didn't help him write things with a better pacing.
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I was just saying that the end of the ant arc felt slow, even without them. And the time off clearly didn't help him write things with a better pacing.
I just said they might, logically! That they didn't for the ant arc is true.
I'm just saying that for how terrible the hiatuses are, it's silly to say that they're influencing the actual content of the manga in a bad way. That's all. Okay? Is it fine now? Are we cool?
Edit:
Okay so it went like this.
1. Neon says HxH is moving fast now
2. Grimace says it'll slow down because Togashi will play DQ, which I misunderstand that he means to say it'll slow down because of hiatuses (dunno what he really meant)
3. I say the pacing isn't really hurt by hiatuses
4. Wise says he disagrees and from then something weird happens and I'm not sure what
Now that it's all fine I guess I'll go read TLR
And think, we've still got over a hundred chapters of this to go.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Kagami
Well, at least there's some actual truth to the fact that people tend to be interested in members of the opposite sex that they already know like them.
The question here is what's more shallow: that he's interested in Matsukawa because because he thinks he's more likely to score with her or that he's interested in Mao entirely because he's sexually attracted to her.
Well, at least there's some actual truth to the fact that people tend to be interested in members of the opposite sex that they already know like them.
The question here is what's more shallow: that he's interested in Matsukawa because because he thinks he's more likely to score with her or that he's interested in Mao entirely because he's sexually attracted to her.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Fairy tail
Damn, i wish for once Mashima does not put fan service in a chapter. At least fairy tail crew are training. It´s a first, and much better than pulling moves out of their ass. Erza made me laugh at letting Natsu and co join us while they were bathing. Lucy´s reaction was funny.
Damn, i wish for once Mashima does not put fan service in a chapter. At least fairy tail crew are training. It´s a first, and much better than pulling moves out of their ass. Erza made me laugh at letting Natsu and co join us while they were bathing. Lucy´s reaction was funny.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
J. K. Rowling already did it. At least they are training.
I'm like 90% sure Jinbei is joining the crew, he fits the old wise man niche the crew doesn't have yet AND he is a mayor asset to the crew with his underwater abilities. It just makes too much sense.
Or maybe Oda is just fucking with all of us and no one joins in this arc.
Shirahoshi as a SH makes absolutely zero sense to me.
Or maybe Oda is just fucking with all of us and no one joins in this arc.
Shirahoshi as a SH makes absolutely zero sense to me.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
One piece
No it does not make sense. Jimbei is already developed character. He is very powerful fighter. He has already traveled the world and had his own adventures. His MO and personality does not fit the SH. Shirohishi on the other hand has been locked in a tower for 10 years. She has never had an adventure of her, and her powers will get developed, and her character needs much development. Unlike Jimbei who is already a developed both character and power wise.
No it does not make sense. Jimbei is already developed character. He is very powerful fighter. He has already traveled the world and had his own adventures. His MO and personality does not fit the SH. Shirohishi on the other hand has been locked in a tower for 10 years. She has never had an adventure of her, and her powers will get developed, and her character needs much development. Unlike Jimbei who is already a developed both character and power wise.
Hunter X Hunter: OMFG, Illumi is fucking crazy sending a semi flying at his own family. I just can't understand how he can "love" Killua so much but be so flippant about killing Alluka. Sure, I understand her ability is a risk to pretty much everyone involved, but his attitude towards killing his a member of own family is just bizzare. And I'm seriously starting to wonder who has the upper hand in the Illumi/Hisoka relationship after that fucking psycho look he shot Hisoka. I thought Hisoka could be scary but damn, Illumi is a completely off his rocker.
In summary: Such an awesome chapter. Togashi is completely back on point with this arc!
In summary: Such an awesome chapter. Togashi is completely back on point with this arc!
octopusman
Member
NEW PUNPUN!
Say I Love You volume 6
Kai confessing to Mei had Mei react in a funny way. It was also nice all in all, given that it made Yamato realize that he needs to be more honest in regards to his feelings with Mei.
The trip to Land, with Yamato's little sister popping up with their older brother was pretty cute. She wanted to go to Land with them and found a way to force her way in.
Kai confessing to Mei had Mei react in a funny way. It was also nice all in all, given that it made Yamato realize that he needs to be more honest in regards to his feelings with Mei.
The trip to Land, with Yamato's little sister popping up with their older brother was pretty cute. She wanted to go to Land with them and found a way to force her way in.
Fidelis Hodie
Infidelis Cras
Not once in this entire arc has there been any indication that Shirohishi would even be considered to become a crew member. It seems much more likely that she's now ready to take over her responsibilities as princess on the island itself, protecting it and beginning to take over fishman relations with humans.
I'm not really any more sold on Jinbei joining but he definitely seems like he fits with the crew more to me. I don't get the feeling he is too strong and will overpower them. Pre-timeskip, yeah. But now? Not at all. In fact, I feel the exact opposite. he seems like he's on par with all of them, even though there's not exactly a true enemy to gauge that strength yet.
I get really good gristly, war hero, seen it all, old man type, without being to old to do anything about it.
And not to mention the fact that he had his own "VS." panel.
You're in Italy right Lain? Is this licensed over there?
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
HXH
One of the best chapters in any manga I've read ever, HXH has been so awesome lately, I fear we are going into a 10 year hiatus...
Let's see how Illumi/Hizoka can counter the light speed thing Killua does.
One of the best chapters in any manga I've read ever, HXH has been so awesome lately, I fear we are going into a 10 year hiatus...
Let's see how Illumi/Hizoka can counter the light speed thing Killua does.
Infinite Justice
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Crash Station
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He doesn't need them to party, he needs them to be goofy and we already got an eye popping reaction from him. He also has chemistry with the crew, so I'd be surprised if he didn't join at this point based on all the evidence.
brotkasten
Member
Jinbei is fat, ugly and overrated. I don't want him to join the crew, They don't need more crappy members.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Unlike a useless 200 foot tall mermaid.
brotkasten
Member
Never said she should join instead of him, but least she got boobs for some nice fan service.
I love that gif. Never reached that point in the anime, though.
e: I'll never get used to multi quote.
One Piece:
Oda's not "fucking with" anyone. Other than Robin, Oda has had a very systematic way of showing when a character would be joining the crew or not over the years and it is silly how people keep ignoring this formula to entertain their "shipping ideas" (probably expecting too much of the fans).
The only actual hint we've even gotten about Jinbei joining in this arc (which is almost over) is the vs panel he received (coins and manga covers do not count) and even Vivi received more than that. Otherwise the Jinbei theories and anyone else joining the crew is just pure fan speculation and if anyone gets disappointed by someone not joining then you only have yourselves to blame (just like Boa, Margaret, Perona, Mr. 2, etc...).
Oda's not "fucking with" anyone. Other than Robin, Oda has had a very systematic way of showing when a character would be joining the crew or not over the years and it is silly how people keep ignoring this formula to entertain their "shipping ideas" (probably expecting too much of the fans).
The only actual hint we've even gotten about Jinbei joining in this arc (which is almost over) is the vs panel he received (coins and manga covers do not count) and even Vivi received more than that. Otherwise the Jinbei theories and anyone else joining the crew is just pure fan speculation and if anyone gets disappointed by someone not joining then you only have yourselves to blame (just like Boa, Margaret, Perona, Mr. 2, etc...).
What? Vivi was never ever in any versus panel.
You also have to remember that Vivi WAS a part of the crew for a short time. She was considered to be canon Strawhat by the anime throughout the Alabasta arc and was constantly featured in color pages in the manga.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It's not in a magazine that even does ratings. He does fanservice because he can.
I highly anticipate boobs to somehow be more relevant to the crew in the future. Somehow.
He actually doesn't have chemistry with the crew aside from fighting, and Oda tends to pay attention to stuff like the group dynamic. He's a pretty static character, and so when he's not fighting he's just standing around giving information about fishmen.
Ultimately I think Jinbei is a fine character, and if this was any other manga he would join the team. But I honestly don't think Oda likes to work with this type of characters. It's the same reason why he didn't choose Paulie. The guy prefers imagination over cool, and variance over normalcy.
If he doesn't pick Shirahoshi in this arc, then you can safely predict the next crew member to be the one that varies the most from the rest of the existing members. Maybe someone really slow, or someone really tiny and agile, or perhaps an extremely old man with a wild side...
Stealth Editor
Member
Even ignoring everything else, Jinbe has a mandate from Ace to watch over Luffy. He did leave him after they went back to Marineford, but that was with the knowledge that Luffy was planning on training solo for two years and that his next stop was Fishman Island. Everything so far suggests that, despite his initial resistance to Ace's request, Jinbe's respect for Luffy between Marineford and Fishman Island has grown such that he has since taken that request to heart.
Oda hasn't been at all subtle about Jinbe's joining throughout this entire arc. Jinbe has natural storylines and dynamics with several crew members, has been given a more dynamic personality and "Straw Hat-like" spit takes that had never previously existed for him, and he has been practically a full on crew member for the last few months, much the way Franky was at Enies Lobby. It's hard to see Jinbe not joining. Unlike other past possible members, Jinbe is not royalty (Vivi, Hancock, Shirahoshi) nor is he someone like Paulie whose presence at home is extremely vital to the success of his homeland. Jinbe has already been a pirate, he's spent years away from Fishman Island, and even now he had removed himself from the people of the island even before Luffy had arrived. There's nothing tying him to Fishman Island, no reason for him to stay. It will be far more helpful to the cause of the fishmen as a whole to have Jinbe travel with a human crew as an ambassador for the species on the seas above than it would be for him to stay at home.
I don't see any reason at all why Jinbe wouldn't join other than "I don't like this character enough, waaah!"
Oda hasn't been at all subtle about Jinbe's joining throughout this entire arc. Jinbe has natural storylines and dynamics with several crew members, has been given a more dynamic personality and "Straw Hat-like" spit takes that had never previously existed for him, and he has been practically a full on crew member for the last few months, much the way Franky was at Enies Lobby. It's hard to see Jinbe not joining. Unlike other past possible members, Jinbe is not royalty (Vivi, Hancock, Shirahoshi) nor is he someone like Paulie whose presence at home is extremely vital to the success of his homeland. Jinbe has already been a pirate, he's spent years away from Fishman Island, and even now he had removed himself from the people of the island even before Luffy had arrived. There's nothing tying him to Fishman Island, no reason for him to stay. It will be far more helpful to the cause of the fishmen as a whole to have Jinbe travel with a human crew as an ambassador for the species on the seas above than it would be for him to stay at home.
I don't see any reason at all why Jinbe wouldn't join other than "I don't like this character enough, waaah!"
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
The only real problem Jimbei presents is his role's already kinda covered with Zoro and Sanji. I suppose he'd be the only fighter with a brain, but still.
Stealth Editor
Member
Fishing out Devil Fruit users?
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
I was thinking more they already have two broken fighters not counting Luffy. How many more do they really need?
People bring it up a lot but it's not really a job that needs to be fulfilled more than it already is. It's 100% chance of Devil Fruit users being rescued once someone jumps in to save them as long as he can swim. The only problems are being allowed to jump in (by the enemy), and being healthy enough to rescue someone (as in, it's a bit of a problem if you're bleeding from 10 holes), and those aren't covered by being a Fishman.
Edit: wait, did you mean that fishing out DF users is a job he can fulfill, or that it's a job of Sanji and Zoro? I replied to the former
Urban Scholar
Member
Ok...what's the consensus are we hoping fishman bro won't be a straw hat & someone else will be?
One Piece:
Ace was watching over Luffy before he got captured by Blackbeard. Jinbei doesn't have to join Luffy's crew to fulfill that request.
Spit take? You mean when he popped his eyes out of his head like Enel and Perona (another so called Straw Hat candidate)?
And what about Mr. 2, Iva, and Margaret and all the other characters that were "hard to see" not joining in their respective arcs? The only reason you're excluding characters like Boa and others now is because of hindsight.
1) Unlike Chopper, Zoro, Nami, Sanji, Franky, Ussop, etc... the Straw Hats are not looking for the role everyone keeps claiming Jinbei would fill (Helmsman/Race relations expert/water rescue/old wise man/etc...). When Franky joined they needed someone to repair/make them a ship, when Chopper joined they needed a doctor, etc... The only two crew members that didn't follow this pattern were Robin (who was given a function at the time she joined) and Brooke who role Luffy had been looking for through most of the series and just finally showed up.
2) Why the hell would Jinbei continue being a pirate if he wanted to be an "ambassador" for the Fishman? I really don't understand why people keep pushing this "he can help Fishmen by being a pirate" theory around as Jinbei's motivation for joining the crew. Being a pirate is NOT POSITIVE. Being affiliated with Luffy is NOT POSITIVE. Jinbei sailing with Luffy is not going to help him be an ambassador or help make Fishmen look good. Hell at least as a Shichibukai he had a position in the military and was recognized by the World Government. The queen's actions before she died with the signed petitions were WAY more helpful than this theory. Wouldn't it be more helpful to the Fishmen if Jinbei was visiting places where discrimination against Fishmen is more abundant like say...Sabaody Archipelago and Mariejois, the main two (and probably only) locations where Fishmen slavery still happens and exists in the world of One Piece since the government officially outlaws it everywhere else?
3) How is getting One Piece/sailing all of the Grand Line helpful to Jinbei in any way? For all the rest of the Straw Hats, sailing to the end of the Grandline with Luffy helps them with some goal/dream. What does Jinbei gain for trying to reach the Grandline/get One Piece?
Ace was watching over Luffy before he got captured by Blackbeard. Jinbei doesn't have to join Luffy's crew to fulfill that request.
Spit take? You mean when he popped his eyes out of his head like Enel and Perona (another so called Straw Hat candidate)?
And what about Mr. 2, Iva, and Margaret and all the other characters that were "hard to see" not joining in their respective arcs? The only reason you're excluding characters like Boa and others now is because of hindsight.
1) Unlike Chopper, Zoro, Nami, Sanji, Franky, Ussop, etc... the Straw Hats are not looking for the role everyone keeps claiming Jinbei would fill (Helmsman/Race relations expert/water rescue/old wise man/etc...). When Franky joined they needed someone to repair/make them a ship, when Chopper joined they needed a doctor, etc... The only two crew members that didn't follow this pattern were Robin (who was given a function at the time she joined) and Brooke who role Luffy had been looking for through most of the series and just finally showed up.
2) Why the hell would Jinbei continue being a pirate if he wanted to be an "ambassador" for the Fishman? I really don't understand why people keep pushing this "he can help Fishmen by being a pirate" theory around as Jinbei's motivation for joining the crew. Being a pirate is NOT POSITIVE. Being affiliated with Luffy is NOT POSITIVE. Jinbei sailing with Luffy is not going to help him be an ambassador or help make Fishmen look good. Hell at least as a Shichibukai he had a position in the military and was recognized by the World Government. The queen's actions before she died with the signed petitions were WAY more helpful than this theory. Wouldn't it be more helpful to the Fishmen if Jinbei was visiting places where discrimination against Fishmen is more abundant like say...Sabaody Archipelago and Mariejois, the main two (and probably only) locations where Fishmen slavery still happens and exists in the world of One Piece since the government officially outlaws it everywhere else?
3) How is getting One Piece/sailing all of the Grand Line helpful to Jinbei in any way? For all the rest of the Straw Hats, sailing to the end of the Grandline with Luffy helps them with some goal/dream. What does Jinbei gain for trying to reach the Grandline/get One Piece?
I think as far as talking about the next member, Robin should be immediately excluded from every argument. She's an exception for everything and that was the point when she joined. There's no way anyone else will join in a way similar to Robin since the whole point to her joining was that it was unexpected/an exception.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
You're probably all just trolling yourselves and nobody is joining.
Fidelis Hodie
Infidelis Cras
This is the most likely.
That's probably most likely, although I've always wanted a fishman or mermaid to reside in the water tank on the Thousand Sunny.
flintstryker
Banned
at this point I would love Jimbei to be the new member just to see Kreed's reaction..I mean come on man you're taking this thing way too serious settle down.
One Piece:
1) Don't confuse my posting style/word usage as being excited or hyped up.
2) I wouldn't have a negative reaction to Jinbei joining. While I am in the camp that thinks Jinbei would be dull/wouldn't add much I'm not "against" him joining the crew or believe he absolutely can't join the Straw Hats.
My "issue" is that ever since the CP9 arc, there is always some character that people just want to join the Straw Hats with very little rhyme or reason based on what Oda has established. And it's annoying when you see 99% of the One Piece discussion in the thread ignoring this and posting images of Jinbei coins.
1) Don't confuse my posting style/word usage as being excited or hyped up.
2) I wouldn't have a negative reaction to Jinbei joining. While I am in the camp that thinks Jinbei would be dull/wouldn't add much I'm not "against" him joining the crew or believe he absolutely can't join the Straw Hats.
My "issue" is that ever since the CP9 arc, there is always some character that people just want to join the Straw Hats with very little rhyme or reason based on what Oda has established. And it's annoying when you see 99% of the One Piece discussion in the thread ignoring this and posting images of Jinbei coins.
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