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Manhunt 2 Rated Adults Only by ESRB
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Hollywood_mIRC
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Rockstar may have intended this. I mean the game probably isn't going to sell a ton in the first place - so they just take this game and create a huge amount of buzz by making it AO and pushing the limits. Chances are its probably not even deserving of this rating, and even if it was, Hostel and shit on DVD is probably sold to 12 year olds at stores. Movies and videogames have a ridiculous double standard.
HylianScribe
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leroy hacker said:
My network here at work is banned from Nintendo's server, both IP and DNS, so I need somebody to go to Nintendo.com -> Corporate or "Parents" at the bottom, and search for RATINGS information. I am not making this up, it's ap age with the ratings emblems, and it shows A/O, and it says "Nintendo doesn't license or make games for this rating" or something.
I also e-mailed them to double check. Unless they JUST changed it recently, it's been accurate since the ESRB came into formation.
Also, as pointed out, I doubt any mainstream stores will sell it.
titiklabingapat
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Jackson said:
You make sure your kid's friends aren't like that or hope that you thought your kids well enough to understand what is acceptable and what isn't.
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Deleted member 284
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Shenmue DC and Shenmue 2 XBOX say "Hi!"yoopoo said:
so essentially it's G, PG, PG-13, R, and unrated? ;o i guess it technically means the same thing, but unrated gives the message of "so bad it's off the charts," rather than NC-17's saying "R, only seriously."Matt said:
it guess it's just the way they labelled the ratings makes no sense and would probably be confusing to someone who isn't familiar with the rating system. technically, mature should be the "adults only" and AO should be "extremely offensive due to its content and anyone with a soul and a set of morals should stay away" or something 3;
Ghengis Cohen
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Nintendo doesn't license AO games, neither does Sony or Microsoft if I recall correctly.
Right there is the problem with the ESRB. "M" Rated is an absolute joke and everyone knows it.Awntawn said:
You see the industry kick, bite, claw, and cry everytime someone tries to give M-Ratings any sort of teeth (such as penalties against retailers who sell them to minors) precisely because they know that a significant portion of the audience for these games is underage.
It's Joe Camel all over again.
So the AO rating, as I see it, is nothing more than a way for the industry to stop the whole house of cards from tumbling down. It's the invisible line in the sand which they know, if crossed, would light the match that would explode the bullshit and lies of a completely farsical ratings system that's as open and exploitable as they can possibly manage to keep it.
It's a way of seperating out the content that is so graphic, so extreme, that no one could possibly be in favor of allowing children access to, and as such, it gets austracized and punished to set an example for others that may follow.
Because if a game like Manhunt 2 was unleashed into the current M-Rated environment, children across the country would be playing it within days, and suddenly everyone would realize exactly how hypocritical this entire industry's feeble attempts at self-regulation have become. The ESRB would be doing nothing more than signing it's own extinction.
Cosmonaut X
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Take2/Rockstar ****ed up, IMO. They're getting the game refused certification/banned/given a blacklist rating in multiple territories - and not because it's on the Wii, as the PS2 version is getting the same treatment.
They pushed too damn far in terms of acceptable content & now they're going to get hit hard. Unless this is a very elaborate - and stupid - ploy for cheap publicity and they have a toned-down version of the game ready to go, they have spent a lot of money and time on a game they may not see any significant return on, at least not without major changes/cuts.
They pushed too damn far in terms of acceptable content & now they're going to get hit hard. Unless this is a very elaborate - and stupid - ploy for cheap publicity and they have a toned-down version of the game ready to go, they have spent a lot of money and time on a game they may not see any significant return on, at least not without major changes/cuts.
zoh oh
http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/buyers_guide.jsp
*Please note that Nintendo does not sell or license games that carry the ESRB rating "AO" (Adults Only).
http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/buyers_guide.jsp
*Please note that Nintendo does not sell or license games that carry the ESRB rating "AO" (Adults Only).
Greenpanda
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I mixed up the top two thread titles and read this as "Megaman 2 Rated Adults Only by ESRB."
Thought maybe they were really cracking down on the Virtual Console.
Thought maybe they were really cracking down on the Virtual Console.
TSA said:
Nintendo.com said:
Though, we have to remember that there hasn't been AO games on consoles..as far as I remember, so technically they don't sell them..because there aren't any.
Plus Nintendo was the only one that allowed the uncensored version of BMX XXX..
And they also published Conker's Bad Fur Day (the Xbox version was censored).
Ghengis Cohen
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You're confusing Nintendo's previous stance about ingame content with the fact that they simply won't license AO games.ManaByte said:
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Wollan said:
Basically
HylianScribe
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alr1ghtstart said:
Thank you - I knew I wasn't imagining this. So as I said, Nintendo will either break it's "family-friendly" policy which has been a staple (which they will not do for this game, sorry Take-Two), or they will strong-arm Take-Two into altering the game, along with everyone else, which is going to happen.
Expect this to be wrapped up by month's end unless Take-Two really wants to drive itself further into financial oblivion.
leroy hacker
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TSA said:
Wow. My apologies, I just went to the website and you're totally right.
Dark Ninja
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Awesome!
Day One!
Day One!
HylianScribe
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Who said there was a pre-E3 drought of news...Go-Go Game Industry DRAMU!
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Snaku said:
Damn, far cry from the Nintendo of old.
VultureDude
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do any retailers in Canada even carry AO rated games?
ShockingAlberto
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We just don't see AO games because retailers don't carry them. That could give the illusion of companies restricting them, but it's mostly a sales issue. Same reason studios cut apart movies that initially get NC-17 movies.
speculawyer
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I wonder if they should try releasing it as AO? It certainly would get a lot of hype. Would EBgames carry it?
Which outlets beside Wal*Mart would refuse to carry it? Best Buy? Circuit City? Target?
Which outlets beside Wal*Mart would refuse to carry it? Best Buy? Circuit City? Target?
SolidSnakex
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Cosmonaut X said:
No they aren't, they'll just remove enough content to get it down to an M rating. They know just like all of us that they can't get away with releasing a game with that type of rating because alot of retail chains won't carry it.
Ghengis Cohen
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All of them?speculawyer said:
speculawyer
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Conspiracy theory: I wonder if they created two games: a normal game and an extra-super violent version. Then they have the super-violent one reviewed and banned . . . . hype galore. Then they hand over the normal version to get an 'M' rating.
PhoenixDark
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speculawyer said:
Or maybe the super violent version's code will be hidden on the M rated version :shhh
EternalGamer
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I don't really care much for the content of this game, but I really believe there should be a viable Adults Only rating and there needs to be a game that proves a AO game is still economically viable. This way developers actually have an option to leave their games untouched if they so choose.
I don't really care about Manhunt 2, but if it carries through on the AO rating, I will buy it out of principle.
I don't really care about Manhunt 2, but if it carries through on the AO rating, I will buy it out of principle.
Pokeylongo
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This is all for headlines. The game wouldn't make much of a splash if it just came out as an M game. So either they're releasing it as an AO game hoping that places like Best Buy will carry it, or they're making it AO first so they can get some exposure about how violent it is, then they're toning it down to an M rating.
Actually yeah, that's similar to what Speculawyer said.
Actually yeah, that's similar to what Speculawyer said.
Cosmonaut X
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SolidSnakex said:
Just as an FYI, the BBFC - the British rating board - have refused it certification, but with no recommendations for cuts. This basically seems to mean that they believe there are no cuts that could be made to the game in its current state that would enable them to grant it a certificate. Perhaps the ESRB will be more lenient, but it does seem that the game may have stepped far over the line and Punisher-style trims may not be enough here.
Wait & see, I suppose - and of course, as suggested upthread there may be an alt. version of the game ready to go. It would be in line with Rockstar/Take2's stupid "baiting for publicity" approach, after all.
Also, in most cases the ESRB doesn't play games..fully..
They rate games in most cases based on trailers created by the devs or someone else playing them for a few minutes/hours..
That was the whole debate about the censored Ocarina of Time with the changed music and the green blood...at the end..
Considering that they have been more "strict" with the ratings, that's probably why the game received an AO rating..probably the game in general is as violent as the first one, but they are afraid now to rate it the same..because it may disturb ..the kids...our future!!!
They rate games in most cases based on trailers created by the devs or someone else playing them for a few minutes/hours..
That was the whole debate about the censored Ocarina of Time with the changed music and the green blood...at the end..
Considering that they have been more "strict" with the ratings, that's probably why the game received an AO rating..probably the game in general is as violent as the first one, but they are afraid now to rate it the same..because it may disturb ..the kids...our future!!!
TheKingsCrown
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Actually the game has been getting rave reviews on the Wii, at the very least for its realism. Beyond that, is anyone's guess.Defcon said:
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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alr1ghtstart said:
oh boy......