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[genjiZERO]

This is really getting tedious.
I won't even ask if you understand that Marco Polo is an Italian being played by an Italian.

Where did I ever say I had a problem with this? My problem is specifically with the Mighty Whitey trope and the other tropes associated with it. Do you know what a trope is?

Well if it's totally fiction sure, but Marco Polo was italian. I think that's the point they are making.

But no one has said they have a problem with Marco Polo being Italian. It's the trope that's the problem.

 

[Talon]

Man, if Netflix really wanted to rival Game of Thrones, why not make one about the rise of Genghis Khan. Instead of focusing on Marco Polo and Qubilai Khan

That show would effectively be 40% murder, 60% rape.

 

[Cuphead]

Looks great!

 

[Akahige]

Cinematography and production values look ace, I'll watch it since I have Netflix atleast for the visuals.

 

[JaseMath]

Looks interesting and I'll watch.
On a side note, how did a show with such a big scope go unnoticed for so long?

 

[Akahige]

People asking for a Khan movie or show Mongol is a pretty solid movie about Khan, shows the unbarbaric side of him so maybe not what people are looking for, he doesn't destroy an entire nation or any thing like that but it was suppose to be the first in a unmade trilogy so it shows his fictionalized beginnings.

 

[GK86]

Looks interesting and I'll watch.
On a side note, how did a show with such a big scope go unnoticed for so long?

I think because its been in production hell for awhile.

 

[harSon]

Is it a cliche though if its based, at least partially, on true events? I'd agree with you about it being cliched if it was a completely new work of fiction, but Marco Polo was a real guy, who really did travel to China. Calling the show out for having an Italian protagonist is a bit like calling out Braveheart for having a Scottish hero.

I've been waiting for this show since it was announced. Can't wait to watch it in December. It may be horrible, but I'll at least give it a shot. The cinematography looks great so far.

The fact that it's true is not the issue. It's the choice of his story that's the issue. White people aren't the only one's with interesting stories, and yet their stories are chosen 90% of the time within film and television.

 

[ActuallyHulk]

The music blew but the show looks interesting enough to watch.

 

[UrbanRats]

That show would effectively be 40% murder, 60% rape.

Sounds like Game of Thrones.

 

[dvdjamm]

The lead looks nothing like Marco Polo...

 

[ChawlieTheFair]

Where did I ever say I had a problem with this? My problem is specifically with the Mighty Whitey trope and the other tropes associated with it. Do you know what a trope is?



But no one has said they have a problem with Marco Polo being Italian. It's the trope that's the problem.

Yeah the trope is a problem, but in this case, a show about a dude who was actually white, is it really a trope?

 

[REV 09]

That looks awesome. Will check it out.

 

[ezrarh]

That looks pretty sweet.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

No white guys in ROTK. Plus, there's no way they would spend the money to make a TV series based on a novel this long. At least not a Chinese novel.

Netflix could make a big expensive ROTTK series and use it to launch their service in China. Millions of subscribers over night.

 

[Cow Mengde]

Netflix could make a big expensive ROTTK series and use it to launch their service in China. Millions of subscribers over night.

I wonder if they could top the Chinese versions in budget, cause the first one did hold the world record for most expensive television show for a few years until Walking With Dinosaurs beat it.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

I wonder if they could top the Chinese versions in budget, cause the first one did hold the world record for most expensive television show for a few years until Walking With Dinosaurs beat it.

Really? That's an interesting factoid. And who knew Walking with Dinosaurs was so expensive?

 

[mdubs]

Can't have a show set in Asia without a group of exotic asian women in a smoky room groping the white guy.

Looks cool, will enjoy this with my

Spoiler

chinese

girlfriend.

 

[TripOpt55]

I watched the trailer a few more times. I seriously can't wait for this. Looks really cool.

 

[2thepoint]

The quality of the Netflix original shows is something else.

Love it so much and looking forward to this.

 

[Hrothgar]

That said, someone should absolutely fund an awesome and epic Genghis Khan production with amazing production values and distribute it to the world. They won't make any money, but it would be a damn fine thing to see.

There is. Shame the sequels haven't been made yet (and I doubt they will ever see the light of day).

 

[FleckSplat]

I'm getting tired of these haunting tracks playing over quick cuts interspersed with one-word-at-a-time-to-reveal-a-phrase "Serious television to be taken seriously" trailers.

 

[teruterubozu]

Just saw the teaser. This looks killer.

 

[Succinct Verbosity]

It looks interesting, so I will watch it. That being said, I am getting reaaaal tired of this needless nudity to makea show appear more adult than it actually is.

 

[GuitarAtomik]

Looks pretty damn amazing to me. I honestly don't know shit about Marco Polo so I had no clue what to expect lol.

 

[genjiZERO]

Yeah the trope is a problem, but in this case, a show about a dude who was actually white, is it really a trope?

Yeah sure. The characters in both Shogun and The Last Samurai were both historically white. They were still Mighty Whitey tropes.

Actually, my real concern isn't that it'll be a Mighty Whitey trope (I actually think they will avoid that criticism by making him decidedly not mighty), but that it will be a television version of that Jason Derulo song Dirty Talk. Personally, I think orientalism and exotification are much worse cliches.

Anyway, we'll see. It's just a trailer after all. But it's mainstream media so I'm not hopeful.

There is. Shame the sequels haven't been made yet (and I doubt they will ever see the light of day).

I really liked that movie. I loved the irony that

Spoiler

none of his children were actually his

. I'll say it was overly romantic though, and that in real life, he was almost certainly the butcher he's been made out to be.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

It looks interesting, so I will watch it. That being said, I am getting reaaaal tired of this needless nudity to makea show appear more adult than it actually is.

Who says the nudity is needless? We haven't seen it yet, so maybe it serves a purpose.

 

[Mr_eX]

I will watch this

 

[gosox333]

I swear to God if everybody has British accents...

 

[WrenchNinja]

Who says the nudity is needless? We haven't seen it yet, so maybe it serves a purpose.

Do you honestly believe that??

 

[fallengorn]

Can't have a show set in Asia without a group of exotic asian women in a smoky room groping the white guy.

This made me groan.

Looks like the show has great production values but... ugh...

 

[Ingueferroque]

White male hero in a foreign land [check]. Over-sexualised Asian females [check]. It's Great White Messiah the tv show!

What's wrong with white people in foreign lands? What does that even mean? God, some of you. I'd hate to hear you critique Game of Thrones.

 

[harSon]

What's wrong with white people in foreign lands? What does that even mean? God, some of you. I'd hate to hear you critique Game of Thrones.

According to movies and television, history doesn't exist until White people arrive.

 

[Anton Sugar]

What's wrong with white people in foreign lands? What does that even mean? God, some of you. I'd hate to hear you critique Game of Thrones.

He's critiquing an overused and familiar trope, not saying that white people were never in foreign lands, nor that white people in foreign lands is a bad thing.

Kinda like how Dany freeing a bunch of slaves isn't a bad thing, but the image of a bunch of brown people praising/being saved by a white person can be problematic.

 

[teruterubozu]

Marco Polo was basically the genesis of Orientalism. So yeah, not sure how they're going to get away from that.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

Do you honestly believe that??

I'm an optimist.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Looks great, with some surprisingly high looking production values. I'll definitely be checking it out.

 

[Mdk7]

Will definitely watch.

 

[Kinyou]

Also, I can't help but feel like we wouldn't have gotten that scene if the series hadn't been in development at Starz for so long, so: Thanks Starz!

It was a starz show? That explains all the tits. No going to expect historical accuracy.

 

[GK86]

It was a starz show? That explains all the tits. No going to expect historical accuracy.

It was back in 2012. They dropped it because of production issues (filming locations and whatnot).

 

[Mifune]

It's totally fucking absurd to complain that a show called MARCO POLO is about a white dude in a foreign land.

Now if he saves the Asian heathens from themselves and introduces them to the sophistication of Western culture, have at it. But to complain about the concept is just silly.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

It was a starz show?

For a while, yeah. Most of the season was already written when Netflix picked it up.

That explains all the tits.

No going to expect historical accuracy.

Good, because I don't think it's aiming for historical accuracy. I think it's going to be along the lines of DaVinci's Demons.

 

[NolbertoS]

The series trailer has captivated me. Without Marco Polo's books the Americas would've been undiscovered and the age of exploration not happened, as well as the age of exploitation and colonization too, but thats another debate.

 

[TheContact]

This looks really cool actually I'm excited for this release

 

[Cornballer]

- Marco Polo - Main Trailer

"All my life, I've waited for the great adventurer to offer me a place at his side." -- Marco Polo

Watch the first official trailer for the new Netflix original series MARCO POLO and discover the little-known beginnings of the legendary explorer, whose life of adventure began as a ward of the powerful 13th century Mongol emperor Kublai Khan.

 

[GK86]

Really looking forward to it after watching the main trailer.

 

[berzeli]

- Marco Polo - Main Trailer

Holy shit, the productions values are insane...

Really glad that this trailer is less problematic with regards to exoticism which makes me hopeful for the series as a whole.

 

[Alpende]

Damn, that looks amazing. Can't wait!

 

[kiunchbb]

Netflix just made a show set in China better than 95% of the TV show made in China. I haven't see this much production value in a TV show since the old romance of the three kingdom.

 

[vinnygambini]

Netflix just made a show set in China* better than 95% of the TV show made in China. I haven't see this much production value in a TV show since the old romance of the three kingdom.

*Mongol Empire