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Mario Galaxy pushed to christmas 2007?

Metroid is not looking so hot for the spring anymore. Nintendo hasn't said a peep about the game in forever, it certainly won't be out in March like I was hoping. The earliest we're going to see it is probably June at this point. And on top of that Matt C is thinking we might not see it until the end of the summer.

If Mario is pushed to fall, with Metroid over the summer and Smash Bros the big holiday title.. what the hell are we supposed to be playing in the mean time? Does Nintendo think we'll be fine with just the new Sonic game and a bunch of rehashed PS2 games for the next 6 months?

I'm glad I have a 360 and a DS to go with my Wii.
 
suaveric said:
Metroid is not looking so hot for the spring anymore. Nintendo hasn't said a peep about the game in forever, it certainly won't be out in March like I was hoping. The earliest we're going to see it is probably June at this point. And on top of that Matt C is thinking we might not see it until the end of the summer.
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Well, they don't say much about anything. I expect them to still release it somewhere in May and announce it at GDC
 
ant1532 said:
Well, they don't say much about anything. I expect them to still release it somewhere in May and announce it at GDC
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Indeed, Nintendo has nothing charted out past Mario Party 8.
 
robor said:
Hey yea that's right, when was this announced again Smiles and Cries?
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He talked about having something "he could not talk about" at E3 and later in the year last year. He said it was a new IP. I'm going to sleep so you have to search IGN Gamespot or 1up they all reported something similar.
 
if mario galaxy is pushed back until the end of the year i wouldn't be surprised, but the fact we haven't heard anything about any 1st party games yet, isn't surprising either.

we all know how nintendo works, they want all the attention to be on what they currently have on offer, and since wii has had a few stumbling blocks getting to retail it's still going to be the sole focus, including wii sports, zelda, and the third party stuff.

i didn't expect to hear anything from nintendo about mp3, smash bros, mario galaxy or anything else until february at the earliest.
 
I would say Mario will come out before Nov, Why?

Simple Mario can sell much more over along period of time and does not need Christmas rush for sales. Just look at new super Mario bros. I think it will lunch in the same period as of that game. Heck New super mario gained more sale as Christmas drew near in usa and Japan.
 
So what's the point of making the Wii underpowered again? It doesn't seem like we're getting any more games or getting them any quicker. The original Wii dev kits have been out for ages and were pretty much GC hardware, so where's the hold up? If there's ANY point at which Nintendo's decision should be paying dividends it should be near the launch period. After all, by the time most next gen consoles arrive at their second year most devs have become competent enough that we start to get a steady stream of games to play.
 
Kangu said:
So what's the point of making the Wii underpowered again? It doesn't seem like we're getting any more games or getting them any quicker. The original Wii dev kits have been out for ages and were pretty much GC hardware, so where's the hold up? If there's ANY point at which Nintendo's decision should be paying dividends it should be near the launch period. After all, by the time most next gen consoles arrive at their second year most devs have become competent enough that we start to get a steady stream of games to play.
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Zelda, Wario, Wii Sports and Wii Play are selling the system. They don't anything more right now.

Nintendo have LOTS of games in development (paper mario, kirby, DK, galaxy, smash, metroid, BWii, strickers, HAMMER, disaster, brain academy and more), but they really don't need them right now.
 
Kangu said:
So what's the point of making the Wii underpowered again? It doesn't seem like we're getting any more games or getting them any quicker. The original Wii dev kits have been out for ages and were pretty much GC hardware, so where's the hold up? If there's ANY point at which Nintendo's decision should be paying dividends it should be near the launch period. After all, by the time most next gen consoles arrive at their second year most devs have become competent enough that we start to get a steady stream of games to play.
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Part of it is that I don't think a lot of companies expected this success. And when Wii turned out to be something big at and after E3, they made the decision to start re-making last gen games for the system, in order to get product on the shelves.

And this counts as Wii's second year already?
 
Epicus.Furor said:
Zelda, Wario, Wii Sports and Wii Play are selling the system. They don't anything more right now.

Nintendo have LOTS of games in development (paper mario, kirby, DK, galaxy, smash, metroid, BWii, strickers, HAMMER, disaster, brain academy and more), but they really don't need them right now.
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I'm not talking about selling the system, I'm talking about having games worth playing. And I don't know about others, but when I though of the potential benefits of having last gen hardware "releasing tech demos and port ups quicker" was pretty far down the list.

Andro said:
And this counts as Wii's second year already?
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Of course not. What I mean is that by their second year most next gen consoles can get a pretty steady stream of games coming out so that their first year droughts become non existant. One of the advantages of having outdated hardware in the wii, I thought, was that there would be less of a first year drought an it would sort of hit the ground running. Now that it appears that is not the case it leaves me wondering were the advantage really is.
 
Kangu said:
I'm not talking about selling the system, I'm talking about having games worth playing. And I don't know about others, but when I though of the potential benefits of having last gen hardware "releasing tech demos and port ups quicker" was pretty far down the list.
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I have Zelda, Wii Sports, MonkeyBall, Trauma Center, Metal Slug Anthology and Elebits and have barely had the time to play half of them. I can also think of a good 3 or 4 games i'd like to try that I don't have yet which are already out. Perhaps you can't find anything you want to play on the system but that certainly doesn't mean there's no good games available.

It's tracking far better than gamecube was already, and considering Nintendo are coming off of the poor success of Gamecube the libraries growing quite well. I certainly see a ton more games on Wii that interest me than PS3. the 360, however, clobbers them both, but it's also been out for a year

One of the advantages of having outdated hardware in the wii, I thought, was that there would be less of a first year drought an it would sort of hit the ground running. Now that it appears that is not the case it leaves me wondering were the advantage really is.
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I think in nintendo's case the advantage was that it will get people to make games for them period. Developing a game for Wii would be much harder than the other systems if all things were equal, due to the complex controls. Less focus on graphics offers some trade off. Nintendo had no friends when the gamecube cycle was coming to an end so asking devs to learn a whole new development system for the Wii would have crippled their library. The strategies working, considering Wii's already got the shovelware. It will still take some time for good original stuff to finish development, but wii specific versions of Madden, SSX, and others from companies that generally just port lazy are obvious indications things are going well
 
Pud said:
Actually, since Nintendo's online infrastructure for the Wii wasn't ready for Pokemon, it used the DS Nintendo WFC network (hence the separate friend code - the Wii has its own system code). There are certainly rumours that the Network is now fully in place (for online gaming, I mean - the basics were in place at launch) in North America, Europe and Japan for the Wii, however I don't think any developers have taken advantage of it yet - aside from the basic stuff in Elebits.
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Yeah, I've seen people say this before, and it seems pretty baseless to me. P:BR is a Wii game that's online, just because it uses friends codes doesn't mean it useless some sort of "DS" network. Unless there is some quote from Nintendo on this matter I'm missing.
 
I should make my own unknown gaming site so I can pull rumors out of my ass and get them posted at NeoGAF to piss off deluded Mario fans.

Acclaim basically doesn't exist anymore; Midway is and always has been in charge of Mortal Kombat. Retro Studios said at E3 last year that they want to use the Wii's online features but not for the kind of multiplayer in Echoes, so downloadable content is more likely.
 
Kangu said:
Of course not. What I mean is that by their second year most next gen consoles can get a pretty steady stream of games coming out so that their first year droughts become non existant. One of the advantages of having outdated hardware in the wii, I thought, was that there would be less of a first year drought an it would sort of hit the ground running. Now that it appears that is not the case it leaves me wondering were the advantage really is.
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I thought so, but I just wanted to clarify. I honestly think it is because many developers were taken by surprise. Hopefully. Apparently IGN knows of some new IPs coming from Konami and EA, respectively, and there's always that Inafune game. Hopefully this is just the start of many announcements.
 
Pfft..
The fact that the info says that "Mortal Kombat Armageddon" is being made by Acclaim...and that they are "secretly working on it"..just confirms that info is fake.

1. Mortal Kombat has always being from Midway (Acclaim just handled the console ports back in the 16-bit "era") [also, Acclaim went bankrupt a few years ago]

2. Armageddon was one of the first third party games announced for the Wii...last year..

3. Midway released a press released last week announcing the release date of Armageddon for the Wii, for April 2007.

So no secret..and apparently the game is not online neither...but who knows.
 
Epicus.Furor said:
Zelda, Wario, Wii Sports and Wii Play are selling the system. They don't anything more right now.

Nintendo have LOTS of games in development (paper mario, kirby, DK, galaxy, smash, metroid, BWii, strickers, HAMMER, disaster, brain academy and more), but they really don't need them right now.
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Yea we'll see about Super Paper Mario...It was ready for release for all intensive purposes and now it is gone of the radar...Pennant Chase anyone?
 
I have no problems waiting, just as long as it delivers (or surpasses) what I'm expecting. Zelda TP far surpassed what I was expecting, so hopefully they're going to sexify Galaxy even further over the next year.

Kobun Heat said:
no
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AndoCalrissian said:
I thought so, but I just wanted to clarify. I honestly think it is because many developers were taken by surprise. Hopefully. Apparently IGN knows of some new IPs coming from Konami and EA, respectively, and there's always that Inafune game. Hopefully this is just the start of many announcements.
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Yeah, probably the biggest reason why so many developers were saying "Oh yeah we'll support the Wii!" and there aren't many games out now is because they only recently started their projects. Before E3 everyone was rooting for the 360 and PS3, but now that's changed.
 
Wait, wait, people actually believe this? Lol. MP3 isn't gonna be online and Nintendo has repeatedly said that Battalion Wars 2 is gonna be the first online game. This is BS
 
gutter_trash said:
Nintendo

I'm not surprised at all anyway, all about the $$$$$$$ in the end and not about us.

Miyamoto said at the E3 that we would have SMG within the first 6 months after launch.
Looks the people upstairs who care more about holiday $$$ didn't care what Miyamoto said and just went ahead with their Q4 2007 make more money strategy
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Did you even think before you posted this?

And do you believe that Nintendo would have made more profit if they had delayed NSMB from May to November? NSMB was one of the main reasons that the DS sold so well. This in turn helped other software sell better - which made Nintendo more profit.

It´s a very similar situation with Galaxy. Nintendo will release it as soon as it´s ready, becaue that´s what´s most profitable.

Seriously, you´re talking as if Super f´ing Mario is some no name game that will stop selling two months after its release.
 
Zoramon089 said:
Wait, wait, people actually believe this? Lol. MP3 isn't gonna be online and Nintendo has repeatedly said that Battalion Wars 2 is gonna be the first online game. This is BS
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Where did Nintendo say that BWii would be the first online game, out of curiousity? Looking past the fact that Pokemon Battle Revolution is already out in Japan with online support.
 
Testicular Sound Express said:
the thing i hate most about nintendo is how they constantly delay games or push them to the holidays to make money.
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Everyone does that, not just Nintendo. Besides, they can use the time to make the games better. It's not like the game is finished and they're just farting around waiting for the Holidays to ship it.
 
PhoenixDark said:
It's Nintendo's biggest gun, and it'll be going up against even bigger ones this holiday season considering Halo 3, GTA, and MGS4 will be ready between Oct-Dec 2007.
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SSBB is imo BigN Biggest Gun for 07....
 
Mario in December seems like something Nintendo would do however being someone who bought a Wii at launch it's not something I want to hear.
 
Bungalow Bob said:
Did you even think before you posted this?

And do you believe that Nintendo would have made more profit if they had delayed NSMB from May to November? NSMB was one of the main reasons that the DS sold so well. This in turn helped other software sell better - which made Nintendo more profit.

It´s a very similar situation with Galaxy. Nintendo will release it as soon as it´s ready, becaue that´s what´s most profitable.

Seriously, you´re talking as if Super f´ing Mario is some no name game that will stop selling two months after its release.
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don't compare Handhelds to Home Consoles ever again, I don't like this compairasson and it doesn't hold water.

Home Consoles are more traditional beasts, and my post stands. Nintendo always spaces out their titles to give you the impression of constant flow of software. Always

Super Mario Galaxy could be going gold by march and Nintendo will still sit on it and release it in November for the big bucks

Did I mention not to compare Handhelds to Home Consoles?
 
mario galaxy will be a huge, huge title. not to impugne smash brothers but this will have nothing on galaxy. its pretty clear this is going supposed to do what mario 64 did, and then some

december release
 
AndoCalrissian said:
Where did Nintendo say that BWii would be the first online game, out of curiousity? Looking past the fact that Pokemon Battle Revolution is already out in Japan with online support.
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Didn't Nintendo told us that Zelda would be GC only?
They said to have an "Online Smash bros!" for launch, and Metroid Prime 3 was definitely a launch title...
 
gutter_trash said:
don't compare Handhelds to Home Consoles ever again, I don't like this compairasson and it doesn't hold water.

Home Consoles are more traditional beasts, and my post stands. Nintendo always spaces out their titles to give you the impression of constant flow of software. Always

Super Mario Galaxy could be going gold by march and Nintendo will still sit on it and release it in November for the big bucks

Did I mention not to compare Handhelds to Home Consoles?
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nothing wrong with comparing like business strategies, nor using historical pretence for the series. Nintendo launched a high profile Mario game for the DS in March, they also launched Sunshine in August I believe, which is hardly whoring it for the christmas season.

his main point stands. nintendo will make more money releasing a Mario game ASAP than holding it for winter. Mario sales don't trail off after a month like other titles. Mario will truck through to the holidays no matter when it comes out, so they may as well drop it at a time the system needs hype. Only reason to save it for winter is if they have nothing else, which is likely not the case (SSBB)

I don't see why anyone should be surprised if this is a later year launch. no indications that it was close to being done at E3 were given aside from Miyamoto's 6 month promise, and those never hold water. The game was a surprise at E3 for a reason. It was just starting. No one expected it on the show floor, playable, and Nintendo didn't put any focus on it in their conference. I expect August-December and always have. I'm not sure why anyone thinks earlier. Metroid is the one to wonder about if it misses the first half of the year.
 
Kafel said:
This source can't be reliable. The game may be delayed but we shouldn't pay attention to this non-news.
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They're ready to jump on anything anti-Nintendo so the source doesn't really matter. They'd believe Kutaragi if he came out with a press release saying that Nintendo's in trouble.
 
Prime 3 seemed quite far along to me, I almost believed they'd have it before Xmas '06. I thought the general consensus was they pushed it back to be nice to Ubi?
 
AndoCalrissian said:
Part of it is that I don't think a lot of companies expected this success. And when Wii turned out to be something big at and after E3, they made the decision to start re-making last gen games for the system, in order to get product on the shelves.
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Could you tell me what this consideration has to do with Nintendo's 1st party games output ?

WAIT...


You mean... Nintendo 3rd party BEFORE E3 ?!?



J/K :P, I am just pulling your leg, nothing to get upset about ;).
 
gutter_trash said:
don't compare Handhelds to Home Consoles ever again, I don't like this compairasson and it doesn't hold water.
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Don´t give advice ever again.

gutter_trash said:
Home Consoles are more traditional beasts, and my post stands. Nintendo always spaces out their titles to give you the impression of constant flow of software. Always
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Do you know what spacing out titles means? Obviously not, but I´ll give you a hint - it does not mean releasing everything big in Q4.


gutter_trash said:
Super Mario Galaxy could be going gold by march and Nintendo will still sit on it and release it in November for the big bucks
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:lol

gutter_trash said:
Did I mention not to compare Handhelds to Home Consoles?
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:lol
 
Considering that Super Smash Bros. has been in development for a relatively short amount of time and is to be Nintendo's flagship title (along with Mario Galaxy, which has been in development for ages), why do people expect it to come out this year? I would personally assume it to be a first half 2008 title, to be followed with either Mario Kart and / or Animal Crossing in the second half of 2008. This year will be the year of Super Paper Mario (if it ever releases), Metroid Prime 3, and Galaxy.
 
splattergnome said:
Considering that Super Smash Bros. has been in development for a relatively short amount of time and is to be Nintendo's flagship title (along with Mario Galaxy, which has been in development for ages), why do people expect it to come out this year? I would personally assume it to be a first half 2008 title, to be followed with either Mario Kart and / or Animal Crossing in the second half of 2008. This year will be the year of Super Paper Mario (if it ever releases), Metroid Prime 3, and Galaxy.
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As I recall Melee had a relatively short dev cycle and a smaller dev team. Also, smash is Nintendo's biggest console franchise at the moment. It makes sense for them to push it as the big winter game. Winter 07 sounds about right considering when development started, and I think it would give it much more time than Melee had, but who knows, could be later. I think they need either Smash or Mariokart for winter though for good hype
 
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