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Marist: Post-DNC, Clinton lead balloons from 3 to 15
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If the people of North Carolina have any sense, that state should go bluer than the sea after what McCrory has pulled.
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This is her revenge for 30 years of bullshit.
Would be so poetic.
Indeed, it should certainly be lower amongst hispanic voters, I want to see more 0% polling figures.
King Tubby
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There's a significant number of people who basically don't follow politics at all and only really get information from a few news stories here and there. The population by and large is not as informed or engaged as you might think.
Jesus, she's looking for blood.
I'm not sure Hillary targeting red states is a good idea. Sure visit them, but pulling ads from CO and VA is gonna screw you if the race tightens again. Winning by a lot is great, but all she needs is 270.
I'm sure she knows what she's doing. Obama's chief strategist and pollster (2008 and 2012) is steering the ship.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Benenson
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whyamihere
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RumblingRosco
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This is great news.
Now, none of you slackers better forget to vote in November just because things look good now. If your ass isn't voting in November, and if you don't drag along a few friends, you're a bunch of jerks.
Now, none of you slackers better forget to vote in November just because things look good now. If your ass isn't voting in November, and if you don't drag along a few friends, you're a bunch of jerks.
We have the lowest voter turnout in the United States, largely because the Republicans have had Texas sewn up for ages---everything is gerrymandered to hell, the countryside fascists are whipped up to a frenzy by Fox News and talk radio, and voter suppression has been intense. Every time I vote for anything outside of Austin, it's feels like tossing a vote down a well. The demographics tell another story, though. A campaign here is probably not winnable, but it could help organize and energize non-Republican elements in the state and help make it purple more quickly. It would be really cool! Also, Trump lost Texas during the primary, so there's that.
That oily piece of shit, Cruz, won, but that's beside the point...
Souldriver
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On the one hand I love how it's Trump who is falling like a rock into the low thirties (holy shit), but I'm also a bit disappointed that Clinton still couldn't break 50. If she could keep above 50 from now on, we'd be golden.
There are many types of Hispanics, and some are prejudiced against others. Some may agree with building a wall, because they don't like mexicans.
gutter_trash
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3rd parties will be a drag on her breaking 50
Basileus777
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It wasn't true until this week. Trump was badly damaged from both the Curiel and David Duke sagas.
Jesus, she's looking for blood.
KuwabaraTheMan
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Tim Kaine's never lost an election in Virginia. She's got this.
Virginia and Colorado aren't really swing states anymore, at least not for the Presidency.
She really should be targeting Arizona and Georgia, because they look quite winnable for her. Missouri would be another sensible state to campaign in.
Basileus777
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Missouri and Arizona have Senate races that the Democrats could potentially win making investing in them more valuable than just winning electoral votes.
exmachina64
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If she wins Arizona, Georgia and Missouri... *shivers*
Good Job Bob
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Trump is running fourth behind Clinton, Johnson, and Stein among 18-29 year olds in this poll.
I'd like to see the polling data that suggests that a significant percentage of Hispanic voters agree that building a wall to keep out Mexicans is a positive position for a candidate to take. Not that I don't believe it possible mind you.
I think however, that party lines(traditionally conservative voters ) and specific policy issues are more likely to explain the pocket that he has.
Trumps platform, such that it is, speaks to the perceived needs of working class white male voters first and pits those needs against the remaining (majority) demographic makeup of the country.
A wall to keep out rapist Mexcians and a ban on Muslim immigration is an attack on us all by its very nature and though as a adjacent minority one may not feel directly affected, the list of names will always get longer.
maximum360
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That's just mean man. That's just mean.
We're bad guys, it's what we do
SirClinksAlot
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Yeah, the DNC really needs to put as much support behind Kirkpatrick here in Az as they can. John McCain is fully vulnerable and we need to get his ass out of the Senate.
Jesus, she's looking for blood.
Sweep the leg
I am not suggesting I have any kind of statistical data, but I have seen my share of Spaniards, Colombians and Puerto Ricans sneer at mexicans, that I am not particularly surprised. That is all I am saying.
True, I have faith, and even though we're in good hads, reaching for the stars makes me nervous for whatever reason : p
True, but ads cost more later in the cycle.
I'm not sure I agree with that seeing how again, 270 is all that's needed. However it will make Trump play defense and spend money, which I suppose is good.
This is very important though. Dems are in a good position to get seats in the senate and thst is perhaps even more important than the presidency, assuming Trump is significantly behind, that is.
Sir Alemeth
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Fucking love it.
KuwabaraTheMan
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Trump is running fourth behind Clinton, Johnson, and Stein among 18-29 year olds in this poll.
Those total up to 89%. So Trump isn't just behind all four of them. He's also behind "other/none".
water_wendi
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11% of nothing is still nothing. i know, i know, its not nothing but realistically what is the % of that age bracket that actually votes? Wasnt the numbers in 2012 the lowest its ever been?
And_Gignac
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Wifi-Killer Queen at 6%. Woooo.
At this point, its more about how much she can help dems rack up on the down ticket, flipping a few red states would give her a mandate to do potentially some of the bigger things addressed in the party platform like single payer, college funding, more liberal justices, so on.
Also, this is why you should never think your vote wont matter even in a solid colored state.
Maybe there's a strategy to start spending time in states other than PA and OH? Besides the potential to bring more support for Kirkpatrick in AZ, AZ is moving closer to blue plus if it gets Trump out of the real battleground states... seems like it could work out well, even if AZ stays red.
They key is defense, post convention Trump and RNC raised a nice bit of cash, her cash advantage is nice but not without limit, make him play defense and react and perhaps pick up some surprise wins. Every dollar he spends outside of the battlegrounds is money well spent.
Lys Skygge
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I just hope these positive polls don't cause voters to be complacent.
No doubt. I live in NM which is a "swing state". Still, even if I lived in fucking Mass, I'd vote dem across the board.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Comeback narrative is on deck, don't worry.
They won't for a few reasons I can see.
1- Many are going to vote just so they can say they elected the first woman president. Story to tell your grandkids kind of thing. It is a big deal.
2- Minorities will stay terrified and for good reason. They will do what they can to stop Trump and will show up it droves. You don't just forget the things he has said.
3- Trump isn't going to stop. He will continue to provide the material to motivate people all the way to election
4- With the idea that some states might actually flip because Trump is so awful, I think excited voters my actually show up to try and make it happen.
Still too high.
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They should hit it hard here. I've said it before, it's not a crazy state to flip.
I feel like if anything, the smell of blood in the water would mobilize dems even more.
It's one thing to be a forgone conclusion and win in a boring way, but this is getting into historic balance changing status. I think up to a certain point complacently sets in definitely, but I think we may be past that and are into the "lets fucking run the board" stage.
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