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Mary Jane or Alcohol? What's worse?

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Rei_Toei said:
Both can destroy people's lives and those arround them, alcohol as being the more universally accepted drug of the two just seems to do it on a bigger scale. I'm inclined to say alcohol has more potential for harm than pot.
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The only way pot can really "ruin someones life" is if you get caught with some, end up having to drop out of school and going into debt to pay off fines and lawyer fees.
 
aku:jiki said:
I'm rolling one like that right now! I prefer how it burns and shapes when there's a little tobacco in there. Plus it works better with these see-through 100% cellulose papers I have.
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Hey are those pretty popular over there? Over here I've only seen those imported from the West Coast, no shops over here carry them. Those things are awesome!
 
Rei_Toei said:
Nah, perhaps it was worded a little too dramatic. I live in the Netherlands, have seen plenty of people smoking (a lot of) pot, but worst-case scenario I witnessed is people ****ing up a year at highschool or university because of smoking waaay to much pot. No big deal, everything worked out fine in the end for all the persons I know. But a close friend of mine is a social worker working with families with addicts, and a lot of those people's stories tend to start with the light stuff. So I think you could say that for some persons (mostly persons in weak social environments, low education levels, low income, crappy neighbourhoods) it starts with weed and/or alcohol and then gets worse. Then again, it is not the weed at that time that wrecked the lives of those persons, it's just were it started. I hate the fear-mongering around pot "(stuff like "everyone who starts smoking pot ends up a crackhead!" - lots of U.S programs are throwing this stuff around it seems) but for some groups it certainly seems to be true. In the Netherlands, at least.
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Well actually I agree. You're saying pot screws up peoples lives like playing too many videogames would screw up people's lives. It's wasting your time and your effort. I don't agree too much with the gateway drug thing, but I see your point.

But if you were saying that pot destroys lives in the way that... say... crystal meth ruins lives (and many conservatives might consider this so), then I wouldn't agree.


RE: Mixing weed + tobacco. Apparantly Eastern Canadians do this all the time, but as a Western Canadian this blows my mind. Gimmie some pure BC bud please.
 
The whole pot is a gateway drug has always made me laugh it just such nonsense. There is no scientific evidence of any kind to back it up. Its all just skewed surveys. They ask 1000 crack heads if they ever smoked pot and 99.9% say yes therefore its a gate way drug. Its almost laughable in its stupidity. Does that mean aspirin is a gateway drug or alcohol. It strange they never list them on that same survey. I wonder why that is? :D
 
In college I asked my "Drugs, Brain and Behavior" class professor which was worse.
He said alcohol by far.
For example, he said drinking AND smoking pot is a good way to curb binge-drinking among college students :lol
 
Alcohol is way worse than pot, but it really depends on the person. I know total pot heads who dont do shit except play madden everyday, and I know people who drink every day and are much more productive people over all, and i think at the end of the day, happier. but yeah, typically alcohol will get you in a lot more trouble.

What do you think is worse when posting on GAF? Being high or tottaly wasted? :lol
 
LunaClover said:
I dont want to look like a total tool, but from what I understood, smoking joints in the UK is legal...right?
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No, but in 2004 they cut back on the penalty for posession. Around that time we (the US) increased ours :lol
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I'd say alcohol by a long way. I'm an idiot when I'm drunk. And then there's the hangover.
 
LunaClover said:
I dont want to look like a total tool, but from what I understood, smoking joints in the UK is legal...right?
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No, not in the least. But the police don't really care about weed. They'll confiscate it if they catch you with some, but that's about it, because apparently the paperwork is too much to bother with for an arrest.
 
Not big on pot anymore but I've been doing both a lot lately. Unfortunately, when both get in my system, I tend to do other drugs (Acid, Gummy, etc)
 
I definitely prefer pot over alcohol, but weed can cost you a job because it stays in your system too damn long. Wish they would just legalize it already.
 
It's not a difficult question to answer for anyone who's done both. Alcohol and cigs are both legal and more harmful for you than a few illegal drugs like weed, shrooms and ecstasy (don't start with the seratonin alarmist bullshit, please). IMO, it's the ease of abuse. Abusing weed and shrooms are kinda difficult since weed'll give you a headache after a while, and shrooms twist you enough you might not even consider additional doses. Plus they taste like shit (literally). So you kinda have to force them down in large quantities. Cigs and booze are very easy to abuse. And I've seen exponentially more cancer patients and alcohol sickness cases (gotta love frats) than I've ever seen anyone come even close to being hurt by weed. The only loss is the loss of motivation. PEACE.
 
aku:jiki said:
I'm rolling one like that right now! I prefer how it burns and shapes when there's a little tobacco in there. Plus it works better with these see-through 100% cellulose papers I have.

(Alcohol. As if that's even a question!)
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Those are pretty cool. Look insane once it's rolled, too.
 
Alcohol is definitely and factually worse, there literally is no contest.

For the whiners saying unfounded crap like a joint has more tar than a cigarette, get a vaporizor and stfu. Of course it's hard to get a vapo due to stupid laws, but that's another issue.

Though I would say tobacco is worse than alcohol.

If you stop doing shit or **** up your life on pot, it's not pot's fault, it's yours and no one else's, stop with the escapist bullshit and just sort your damn life out. Most people I know, including a few cops don't give a shit about pot, they've all got bigger issues to deal with than some stupid, archaic law.
 
Barnolde said:
If you stop doing shit or **** up your life on pot, it's not pot's fault, it's yours and no one else's, stop with the escapist bullshit and just sort your damn life out. Most people I know, including a few cops don't give a shit about pot, they've all got bigger issues to deal with than some stupid, archaic law.
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Hell yeah.
 
Morbo said:
Why would anyone want to sully a perfectly good joint by putting tobacco in it?
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Where I grew up, all you could get was hash, so mixing was more or less a necessity.

Pimpwerx said:
Abusing weed and shrooms are kinda difficult since weed'll give you a headache after a while, and shrooms twist you enough you might not even consider additional doses. Plus they taste like shit (literally).
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Shrooms can be easily transformed into chocolate bars, which taste delicious. Though I never had a problem with the taste of fresh ones myself, especially if mixed with OJ. I agree about the twist thing though, and I honestly don't understand people (like a few of my friends) who would go on shroom binges. I'd do it a few times a year, and that's it. And then only in controlled environments, meaning no bloody sober people around.
 
jtardiou said:
sexually induced crimes
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Sexually-induced? Crimes brought on by sexiness? Wow, I look hot today - I'm so gonna kill someone?

And the right answer is Alcohol. However, a good drunk is more fun to be around.
 
you should seek help, lordmaji.

All of those drugs you're taking, I bet you don't have a thing worth living for. Time for some meth.

lemme guess, you like vicos too?

:(

*goes back to living a healthy lifestyle, free of drugs and other fun things - including sex*

:(
 
LordMaji said:
Former step brother, can rott in piss.

oh same goes w/ baby momma. **** that biottcchhh

...Let me guess, your cooking up a batch of meth in your bath tub. Tailer park style! :lol
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My trailer blew up last time I did that.

"My face was horribly scarred from a trailer park accident" isn't a very good pick-up line. They always ask questions about how one could get into such an accident.

:'(
 
Forgotten Ancient said:
My trailer blew up last time I did that.

"My face was horribly scarred from a trailer park accident" isn't a very good pick-up line. They always ask questions about how one could get into such an accident.

:'(
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Spence? :lol
 
In case you OD on something, can you have someone post a new topic letting us know what was it that did you in? You seem to be made of iron.
 
Verboten said:
In case you OD on something, can you have someone post a new topic letting us know what was it that did you in? You seem to be made of iron.
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If you're talking about the OP, I'll post in his stead when he ODs. He's my best friend and I work next to him everyday. :lol
 
Forgotten Ancient said:
If you're talking about the OP, I'll post in his stead when he ODs. He's my best friend and I work next to him everyday. :lol
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HA, I don't do anything to OD. :lol

I've done pot, shrooms, slavia, and... thats about it. occasional vicodin to lighten up work from being so damn boring & I drink VERY little.

Been almost 2yrs since last time I was drunk.
 
GrundlTerror said:
Hey are those pretty popular over there? Over here I've only seen those imported from the West Coast, no shops over here carry them. Those things are awesome!
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Not yet. I'm in Sweden and they're just starting to make it over here. Very few select shops carry them so far and they're kinda expensive.

Mute said:
Those are pretty cool. Look insane once it's rolled, too.
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Yeah, but they're too small. At least this brand I have (aLeda from Brazil) is too narrow to fit the amount I usually put in there, so it gets to be a pain pretty quickly. But it's always fun to have a pack to whip out if you're smoking with people who haven't seen them yet. :D
 
Weed is green and green is the color of growth.

I have been smoking the green for about a year now and though i have notice a slight decrease in my attention and awareness it really hasn't effected other areas of my life negatively. I am in my second year of college and I have the highest grades since grade 10 of high school. Working on projects while stoned really enables me to think deeper and make connections in my school work. It has been awesome.
 
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