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[mugwhump]

I still have ME sitting around and haven't played it yet, dunno if I should skip it or just do this one... hmmmm

Nah, I only buy good games.

oh no u did-ent

 

[TheLegendary]

It's a 360 and PC game, what's so hard to understand about that.

It's OK. We understand.

You think all the PC gamers are hardcore? PC is a very casual platform. You arent presenting an argument so much as making yourself look stupid.

Re-read my comment and try again.

 

[TheLegendary]

Edit: Double Post.

 

[axiomnightmare]

This was more to do with first day sales are higher and shipments due to sequel than that ad. The advertisement was a waste of money. I wish I had the statistics to confirm this but that isn't the key to this games success more than the 96 metacritic score, the game is the sequel to a game that sold 2 million, and that the approval rate for the first game was high. Those are the main aspects for these sales most likely.

Yea, compare the sales of this game to Uncharted 2 and you can get the picture.

 

[Kagari]

It seems to really hurt you that it's not on PS3.

Anyway, got the game day 1 on PC. 4 hours in and it's an amazing game. Best Bioware's game since BG2.

:lol :lol
I have the superior PC versions of both games, why would I care if it's on PS3 when I can run both games at maximum settings instead of gimped console limitations.

 

[HK-47]

It would be nice if Bioware had unlimited time and resources to fix every issue with every game they make. Unfortunately, they don't, so they do what normal people do and prioritize.

Up goes the scarecrow. It looks mighty fine.

Maybe the things they prioritized werent what those people wanted improved. Oh man, those motherfuckers and their differing tastes. Hell most people werent even angry, just disappointed.

 

[HK-47]

Would you tools stop trying to make it out like Kagari was begging for this to be on PS3 when she regularly plays PC RPGs? Its really annoying.

 

[Misterinenja]

:lol :lol
I have the superior PC versions of both games, why would I care if it's on PS3 when I can run both games at maximum settings instead of gimped console limitations.

There's nothing gimped on ME2 360 beside the obvious minor graphical differences. This isn't Dragon Age.

 

[Zeliard]

Up goes the scarecrow. It looks mighty fine.

Maybe the things they prioritized werent what those people wanted improved. Oh man, those motherfuckers and their differing tastes. Hell most people werent even angry, just disappointed.

I simply disagree that the game was "dumbed down", being that what people seem to want to return was complete shit in the first game. The latter being entirely my opinion, of course. The reason they removed certain things wholesale is because the alternative would have been to rebuild them completely, i.e. the loot system. Better to rip that shit out and concentrate on some of the other things, like the combat, character-building and dialogue cinematics, all of which have seen substantial improvement.

Call it streamlined, sure, but saying it was dumbed down is implying that what was removed from the first game was anything remotely resembling intelligent.

 

[clashfan]

:lol :lol
I have the superior PC versions of both games, why would I care if it's on PS3 when I can run both games at maximum settings instead of gimped console limitations.

sad, very sad...

 

[KaYotiX]

Game is just amazing, just beat it lastnight (31 hrs total time) and starting my second run on Hardcore (3rd run will be on the hardest difficulty)

Great Job Bioware!!!!!

 

[HK-47]

There's nothing gimped on ME2 360 beside the obvious minor graphical differences. This isn't Dragon Age.

This is true, especially since Bioware doesnt seem to wanna give out a tool set for ME.

 

[wizword]

I disagree completely. Plenty of high scoring games have passed the average gamer's consciousness. I had 5 people mention Mass Effect after the NFC game advertisement, even adults who don't play games. A lot of people assumed it was Avatar before the Xbox logo came up actually :lol .

And seriously. I know GAF is skewed from society's norms but I didn't realize that people assumed that their point of reference is the standard. People actually believe that PC gaming is even known about outside of message boards (besides WOW/casual games), let alone a viable option for your average big-release title? It's OK to say that PC gaming is "superior" but if you actually actually think PC gaming is in the average gamer/consumer's awareness you're severely mistaken. Poll your Super Bowl party next week and see how many people play games on their computer or even know titles like this are available for it.

PC casual market browser market is probably bigger than all the consoles combined. Companies like Zygna who make farmville and mafia wars has a net estimated worth is over 1 billion dollars. Companies like New Horizon entertainment were bought up for 700 million dollars for club penguin, and World of Warcraft probably was the most successful game ever.

 

[Dogenzaka]

sad, very sad...

It's sad because he can run the game at full, native resolutions with advanced AA and stuff like that, while the 360 can't?

Why?

 

[clashfan]

It's sad because he can run the game at full, native resolutions with advanced AA and stuff like that, while the 360 can't?

Why?

Hey it's great you can run it at such a high resolution. Its sad that one needs to put down someone else for playing on console. Have fun with the game. Why put someone else down?

 

[wizword]

Yea, compare the sales of this game to Uncharted 2 and you can get the picture.

I don't know if you are sarcastic or not but this proves true for uncharted 2. Uncharted 2 sold 512k its first month which was significantly higher than the original sales. Mass Effect 2 got these sales based on its merit not on the advertisement campaign by EA.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

I don't know if you are sarcastic or not but this proves true for uncharted 2. Uncharted 2 sold 512k its first month which was significantly higher than the original sales. Mass Effect 2 got these sales based on its merit not on the advertisement campaign by EA.

a) There's no way to prove that
b) That makes no sense at all

There's no way the massive ad blitz had no impact on sales.

Uncharted 2 was heavily advertised as well, which I'm sure contributed to its significantly higher sales.

 

[TheLegendary]

PC casual market browser market is probably bigger than all the consoles combined. Companies like Zygna who make farmville and mafia wars has a net estimated worth is over 1 billion dollars. Companies like New Horizon entertainment were bought up for 700 million dollars for club penguin, and World of Warcraft probably was the most successful game ever.

Alright this is the second time. Hk 47 isn't dense so maybe it's me not communicating my point well enough. But Re read what im saying. The average big name video game release aka Gears, Modern Warfare, Madden.

It is quite funny that a PC defender who stresses the superiority of PC gaming due to graphics and flexibility has to use casual Facebook games which neither offer freedom nor are graphically impressive to defend it.

 

[Zzoram]

I don't know if you are sarcastic or not but this proves true for uncharted 2. Uncharted 2 sold 512k its first month which was significantly higher than the original sales. Mass Effect 2 got these sales based on its merit not on the advertisement campaign by EA.

Uncharted 2 has a MASSIVE advertisement campaign (BestBuy had it on every TV in their flyer and the TV commercial) while the original did not.

ME1 sold well but not insanely so. I think it only just got over 2 million in the end.

 

[HK-47]

a) There's no way to prove that
b) That makes no sense at all

There's no way the massive ad blitz had no impact on sales.

Uncharted 2 was heavily advertised as well, which I'm sure contributed to its significantly higher sales.

Yes, in fact ME2 doing so well is quite odd, especially since it a sequel to a game with a continuous story between the 2. Usually its hard get people to jump on a series that already has an ongoing story, and to make up for people that didnt like the world, story, gameplay and characters of the first one.

 

[EatChildren]

Would you tools stop trying to make it out like Kagari was begging for this to be on PS3 when she regularly plays PC RPGs? Its really annoying.

I dont even own a PS3 and I want it for the PS3. Its so damn good everyone should have the chance to play it. A ME1 + ME2 pack for the PS3 would be great.

 

[stupei]

Man, I wish I'd kept track of the threads of conversations with people over the past few months who insisted ME2 was going to only do average sales numbers...

 

[LegendofJoe]

Well done BioWare! This just goes to show you what a well targeted and executed advertising campaign can do for sales. Hopefully, EA will open up their wallet a little more and reward the workers who made ME2 such a great game.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

I dont even own a PS3 and I want it for the PS3. Its so damn good everyone should have the chance to play it. A ME1 + ME2 pack for the PS3 would be great.

Totally. It's the Bambi of videogames.

 

[HK-47]

Totally. It's the Bambi of videogames.

???

:lol

 

[Mrbob]

If Bambi had a plasma gun. And Wrex as a sidekick.

 

[major_killjoy]

I dont even own a PS3 and I want it for the PS3. Its so damn good everyone should have the chance to play it. A ME1 + ME2 pack for the PS3 would be great.

I purchased a PS3 pre-MGS4 and I know what it's like to wait and wait and wait and wait.... *ahem* Anyways, a ME1/2 pack would be orgasmic.

 

[ZombieSupaStar]

Yes, in fact ME2 doing so well is quite odd, especially since it a sequel to a game with a continuous story between the 2. Usually its hard get people to jump on a series that already has an ongoing story, and to make up for people that didnt like the world, story, gameplay and characters of the first one.

eh id say 85% of fallout 3 sales went to people that never played the first 2

95% for gta 3 too imo

 

[HK-47]

If Bambi had a plasma gun. And Wrex as a sidekick.

If Man had plasma guns, no one would fucking go in that meadow.

 

[Zeliard]

If Bambi had a plasma gun. And Wrex as a sidekick.

Wrex is basically Dino Bambi himself. He's just adorable.

 

[Mrbob]

I don't know if you are sarcastic or not but this proves true for uncharted 2. Uncharted 2 sold 512k its first month which was significantly higher than the original sales. Mass Effect 2 got these sales based on its merit not on the advertisement campaign by EA.

I think merit helps, but so did advertising. Their NFC Championhship game ad was seen by over 50 million people. It helps EA/Bioware put their best ad (the launch trailer) on at the best time, which was the two minute warning when everyone was tuning in. The whole launch trailer too, nothing cut.

 

[stupei]

eh id say 85% of fallout 3 sales went to people that never played the first 2

95% for gta 3 too imo

Neither of which were the second game in a trilogy, so I'm not sure I see how it's remotely the same thing.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

???

:lol

Laurence of Arabia? But that shit is long and boring. Bambi is like WHAM.

 

[GillianSeed79]

Picked up my copy tonight.

 

[Ganondorfo]

Another masterpiece by bioware (this developer is so amazing). BTW are the dragon age team and the mass effect team the same team? Because dragon age was only released 3 months ago...

 

[Haunted]

Hey it's great you can run it at such a high resolution. Its sad that one needs to put down someone else for playing on console. Have fun with the game. Why put someone else down?

Well, if stating the facts is putting someone down, then so be it. PC version is superior, the console version is worse. wham bam thank you ma'am.

People didn't like those things because they were poorly designed, not because they were too stupid to figure them out.

Exactly!

That's why some people are unhappy that they just removed them from the game completely instead of improving them. Complete lack of exploration really hurts the game compared to the first one. The scanning mini-game is not an acceptable replacement for the whole Mako exploration aspect, imo. If ME3 manages to incorporate and balance elements from ME1 and ME2, it'll clearly be a better product for it. ME2 has different strengths and weaknesses than ME1.

 

[MMaRsu]

Another masterpiece by bioware (this developer is so amazing). BTW are the dragon age team and the mass effect team the same team? Because dragon age was only released 3 months ago...

What do you think?

 

[Gadfly]

:lol :lol
I have the superior PC versions of both games, why would I care if it's on PS3 when I can run both games at maximum settings instead of gimped console limitations.

It will not be a 360/PC game thread without a Sony fanboy showing up to say that he/she will get the PC version.

 

[MirageDwarf]

Well, if stating the facts is putting someone down, then so be it. PC version is superior, the console version is worse. wham bam thank you ma'am.

I think actual reason of people quoting her is different. It's not PC version is better or not. Of course PC version always wins. There is no contest.

 

[Haunted]

Mass Effect 1 anecdote on a more personal note: I drove the Mako through a reddish, barren, foreign landscape on route to mine some resources. I looked up at the stars by chance and there was another huge planet hovering above the mountainscape in the distance. At that moment some slow music kicked in in the background... fuck, I was floored.
I swear I really felt the weight of the solitude of space (stronger than I ever did in Metroid, oh snap), the barren landscape around me, the breathtaking beauty of that one vista, which wasn't scripted, or had me following a linear, pre-defined path to get there - the fact that such an impressive moment could just emerge naturally out of my own exploration... damn. It's still my favourite moment in both Mass Effect games.


I was really looking forward to more of this in the sequel. I'm really disappointed that they completely removed one of my favourite parts of the first one from the sequel. Hammerhead DLC missions not incorporated into the main game... it's just not the same.

 

[NomarTyme]

The massive advertising worked.

 

[HK-47]

Laurence of Arabia? But that shit is long and boring. Bambi is like WHAM.

Lawrence, Birdie.

=P

 

[HK-47]

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That's why some people are unhappy that they just removed them from the game completely instead of improving them. Complete lack of exploration really hurts the game compared to the first one. The scanning mini-game is not an acceptable replacement for the whole Mako exploration aspect, imo. If ME3 manages to incorporate and balance elements from ME1 and ME2, it'll clearly be a better product for it. ME2 has different strengths and weaknesses than ME1.

You remember the planet with the binary stars, or the one with the rings? Only reason I was able to put up with the planetary missions.

 

[See You Next Wednesday]

oh no u did-ent

Well can't really comment on NMH2 as it might be good, but NMH1 was one of the worst hack N slash games I ever played in my life, so no go on the sequel.

 

[Dead Man Typing]

I knew there was something I meant to buy today.

 

[Snuggles]

Mass Effect 1 anecdote on a more personal note:

Yeah I do miss moments like that, I had a similar experience the first time I rode my buggy on the moon and saw Urf in the horizon beyond me. It was pretty neat, but I guess I can always pop ME1 back in to revisit that kind of moment.

 

[MirageDwarf]

Mass Effect 1 anecdote on a more personal note: I drove the Mako through a reddish, barren, foreign landscape on route to mine some resources. I looked up at the stars by chance and there was another huge planet hovering above the mountainscape in the distance. At that moment some slow music kicked in in the background... fuck, I was floored.
I swear I really felt the weight of the solitude of space (stronger than I ever did in Metroid, oh snap), the barren landscape around me, the breathtaking beauty of that one vista, which wasn't scripted, or had me following a linear, pre-defined path to get there - the fact that such an impressive moment could just emerge naturally out of my own exploration... damn. It's still my favourite moment in both Mass Effect games.


I was really looking forward to more of this in the sequel. I'm really disappointed that they completely removed one of my favourite parts of the first one from the sequel. Hammerhead DLC missions not incorporated into the main game... it's just not the same.

I agree. I didn't enjoy driving Mako but moments like these were awesome.

It was nothing soft of impossible to fix. My guess is, BioWare thought that people will still be disappointed if all they do on the planet is mining. If explorable planets are there, they'd have to add some missions too to avoid criticism. So they scrapped that idea and focused on other parts.

 

[Ephemeris]

Impressive.

 

[Lunchbox]

Goty2010 deserves more

 

[DR2K]

Hey it's great you can run it at such a high resolution. Its sad that one needs to put down someone else for playing on console. Have fun with the game. Why put someone else down?

It's the truth though. It's more putting things into perspective than down. I'll still be getting the 360 version, because I'm not quite ready(financially and especially time wise) for a gaming PC.