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Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut is coming next week [Up: Out now, my sweet]

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the ending didn't really fix anything like, come on Garrus would go down fighting with you no matter what.
they should of been holding back Garrus while he tried to get joker to not leave.

also I don't understand of the Normandy was the only ship to use the relays. while all other ships seem to jump into what ever direction they were facing.

also all endings still had the same outcome, even though they are different from the old endings still every single one, everything was fine and everything went back to normal.

AND if they got off the planet, where does the very end even happen?
 
Black-Box said:
the ending didn't really fix anything like, come on Garrus would go down fighting with you no matter what.
they should of been holding back Garrus while he tried to get joker to not leave.

also I don't understand of the Normandy was the only ship to use the relays. while all other ships seem to jump into what ever direction they were facing.

also all endings still had the same outcome, even though they are different from the old endings still every single one, everything was fine and everything went back to normal.

AND if they got off the planet, where does the very end even happen?
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The Normandy wasn't
using a relay, Mass Relays are supposed to allow almost instantaneous travel between two of them, the Normandy was zooming about far too long for it to be a relay jump, they were in FTL.

They didn't have quite the same outcome, each was different enough on a universe scale that if Bioware was to do an ME4 in a future past ME3s timeline they would either have to remove the Geth and like Synthetics, have a bunch of Reapers as the galaxies protectors and the Geth are still around, or everyone has a nice shade of green on them now.

And just because they left the planet doesn't mean they couldn't go back, it could have simply been an uninhabited world that in the hundread/thousand years that pass was eventually colonised.
 
I'm usually hypercritical of Mass Effect, but holy crap what an ending. One of the best I've experienced. The perfect ending to my years-long journey.
 
Good to see the same haters in here. The ending is not bad anymore. It's not great either, but it's acceptable. Even more so when you beat it for the first time with the extended ending.
 
Moaradin said:
Good to see the same haters in here. The ending is not bad anymore. It's not great either, but it's acceptable. Even more so when you beat it for the first time with the extended ending.
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Acceptable is depending on people's ability to put up with awful writing and bullshit.

So it's not acceptable to me.
 
Meh...I finally just beat the game with the extended ending, and did the refusal ending, which was...meh.

Also watched the destroy ending (my original ending in the game)...also meh. If I had beaten the game and gotten that ending, I might not have been so angry (but still going WTF), but at this point, I'm just whatever...I can barely care. At the very least, it's more fleshed out than the original, but that's not saying much.


Also regarding destroy ending,
why did they keep that scene of Shepard at the very end if this is the last of Shepard's story? I see no reason why they had to keep that there to give people false hope...and the scene is even more confusing, when you consider the extended scenes...
 
rozay said:
no you're not
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Check out my post history; I crapped all over ME2. ME3 was leagues better, and while not perfect, wrapped up the series nicely for me. Were there plot holes? Of course. Was the writing piss-poor? Yup. Did we get detailed explanations for things? Nope. Is this hard sci-fi? Nope. Do I care to ever revisit the ME universe? Nyet. I'm happy to put this series, this universe, this 5-year play-through to rest. It was clear from the beginning that BioWare had a different vision for the ME series than me, but I went along with it and enjoyed my play-through, in the aggregate. ME3 was full of problems but the ending was excellent and fit my Shepard well. Finis.
 
daoster said:
Meh...I finally just beat the game with the extended ending, and did the refusal ending, which was...meh.

Also watched the destroy ending (my original ending in the game)...also meh. If I had beaten the game and gotten that ending, I might not have been so angry (but still going WTF), but at this point, I'm just whatever...I can barely care. At the very least, it's more fleshed out than the original, but that's not saying much.


Also regarding destroy ending,
why did they keep that scene of Shepard at the very end if this is the last of Shepard's story? I see no reason why they had to keep that there to give people false hope...and the scene is even more confusing, when you consider the extended scenes...
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The ending with the old man is left deliberately open ended enough to make a sequel possible.

"Can you tell me another story about the Shepard?" I.e., there's more stories to tell.

I mean, if they figure out that the games will sell a lot less without Shepard, did you really think they were just going to leave him dead for the 'integrity' of the story?
 
Is that a dedicated ending thread in plain English?

perhaps some geeks can help me understand and move on. I am still lost.

When Sheppard rejects the choices... why does the child's voice changes to Harbinders ...??

was he still being tricked?
 
And with that, I am done with Mass Effect 3.

The new endings weren't better, just more. And I can live with that as I didn't expect the nonsense to be magically blown away.

I still can't imagine why BioWare would even hint that Shephard survived.
 
So maybe I missed something, but how did the Alliance & co even know that there was a second Conduit on Earth?
 
wtf is with those slides? 1.8gb for that. lol

at first i chose the destroy ending, but the control seems more something shepard would do. I youtube'd the synthesis ending and i'm glad i didn't chose that. shrugs
 
It's hilarious how BioWare had to shit on their own characters to get their ending to make a lick of sense. Garrus bailing on Sheperd? That is pure bullshit and destroys the whole relationship between the two.

What a fucking travesty this games development schedule was. The climax should have been so much more than what it was, one long gauntlet of the same old enemies before a bunch of stupid Matrix Reloaded shit where your squadmates aren't even involved.
 
Unregistered007 said:
Is that a dedicated ending thread in plain English?

perhaps some geeks can help me understand and move on. I am still lost.

When Sheppard rejects the choices... why does the child's voice changes to Harbinders ...??

was he still being tricked?
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It didn't sound like Harbingers voice but generic reaper voice to me like the previous one you killed, as far as I know the Voice Actor for Harbinger was busy which is why he probably didn't talk in the game, and the AI was only using the image and voice of a child because it was speaking to a Shepard I imagine..
 
Ushojax said:
It's hilarious how BioWare had to shit on their own characters to get their ending to make a lick of sense. Garrus bailing on Sheperd? That is pure bullshit and destroys the whole relationship between the two.

What a fucking travesty this games development schedule was. The climax should have been so much more than what it was, one long gauntlet of the same old enemies before a bunch of stupid Matrix Reloaded shit where your squadmates aren't even involved.
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You would have thought that the first thing you would make in this would be a good ending.
Based on some rought mid and starting parts of the game. This is the game closing of a trilogy.
 
Rufus said:
Fan-service, it's the Bioware way. Why could we suddenly fuck Garrus and Tali? Because.
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Yes. You are correct in this.

The brain really should go idle in moments like that. It's like when little space Jesus tells us he's preserving life while he's blowing up ships and turning all those people into monsters. Or when he says mass genocides performed like clockwork are necessary because otherwise there'd be chaos.
 
Ushojax said:
It's hilarious how BioWare had to shit on their own characters to get their ending to make a lick of sense. Garrus bailing on Sheperd? That is pure bullshit and destroys the whole relationship between the two.
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I guess there really is no Shepard without Vakarian, lol.
 
I'm curious about those complaining about Garrus, what exactly did you expect him to do when the Crucible was armed and ready to shoot its magic beam of unknown destruction in the following seconds? Go back to Earth in hope of getting Shepard back? Sure. But fight through an army of Reapers troops again to reach the beam only to die before he could even reach it since they only had a few minutes/seconds left? There was nothing he could do. They might be best bros, but he was just going to get killed if he went back anyway.
 
The Normandy must have been going through the relay. There is no planet like the one they landed on in our solar system. Of course it could've been a planet in a near-by system, say 4 light years away. But how fast is their FTL drives? In fact the whole scene is utterly pointless.
Maybe they travelled through time!? Lol Seems just as plausible!
 
I was waiting for the extended cut to beat the game and I'm really glad I did. I didn't know what to think of the game's first half but the events leading up to the ending definitely redeemed it. The extended ending was absolutely fantastic and I think it's one of the best this generation. I never saw the original ending (nor do I care to) but I was really satisfied with the "control" one.

My impression re: Garrus was that he most likely didn't want to risk the lives of the remaining Normandy crew to save Shepard. He probably knew Shepard would have wanted it that way.
 
I got Ashley telling Joker to leave all 3 times when i replayed the EC to watch each ending (replayed Earth section too). It's more believable for her to do that than Garrus.
 
bob page said:
I was waiting for the extended cut to beat the game and I'm really glad I did. I didn't know what to think of the game's first half but the events leading up to the ending definitely redeemed it. The extended ending was absolutely fantastic and I think it's one of the best this generation. I never saw the original ending (nor do I care to) but I was really satisfied with the "control" one.

My impression re: Garrus was that he most likely didn't want to risk the lives of the remaining Normandy crew to save Shepard. He probably knew Shepard would have wanted it that way.
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not seeing the rushed by ea original is the best way to play it....
 
Man, listening to the new KOXM podcast about the extended cut, I can't believe that there is someone who loves the original ending and hand waves everything all the stupid shit with "it's ambiguous!".

What's even worse is that he makes the "douche" voice whenever he tries to mention why people hated the original ending.

Really, people like that guy makes me glad I'm done with BioWare and their fucking games. Good riddance to the franchise, the company, and its intolerable fans.
 
firehawk12 said:
Man, listening to the new KOXM podcast about the extended cut, I can't believe that there is someone who loves the original ending and hand waves everything all the stupid shit with "it's ambiguous!".

What's even worse is that he makes the "douche" voice whenever he tries to mention why people hated the original ending.

Really, people like that guy makes me glad I'm done with BioWare and their fucking games. Good riddance to the franchise, the company, and its intolerable fans.
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Says the guy with a Shepard avatar. :(
 
Bisnic said:
Says the guy with a Shepard avatar. :(
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I still like femShep, but I'm ready to change it once something else big hits.

It's funny, because I was mostly indifferent on the extended cut, but this one guy shitting on people who DARE criticize the GODLY BioWare is enough to make me rage all over again.
 
I don't envy Bioware's position. I give the Mass Effect team credit for trying (even if they could've done better in hindsight).
 
firehawk12 said:
I still like femShep, but I'm ready to change it once something else big hits.

It's funny, because I was mostly indifferent on the extended cut, but this one guy shitting on people who DARE criticize the GODLY BioWare is enough to make me rage all over again.
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He's obviously an indoctrinated agent.

anyway I'm still trying to wrap my head around how dark energy is able to achieve so many different things.
 
Crewnh said:
He's obviously an indoctrinated agent.

anyway I'm still trying to wrap my head around how dark energy is able to achieve so many different things.
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Well, I think there's a way to talk about this stuff without assuming that the people on the other side are inbred idiots, but I now know that I shouldn't expect anything from "game journalists" nowadays.

Except people who believe in the Indoctrination theory. Those guys are craaaazy. :p
 
badchoiceboobies said:
It didn't sound like Harbingers voice but generic reaper voice to me like the previous one you killed, as far as I know the Voice Actor for Harbinger was busy which is why he probably didn't talk in the game, and the AI was only using the image and voice of a child because it was speaking to a Shepard I imagine..
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Keith Szarabajka (harbringer) did this according to IMDB.

Mass Effect 3 (Video Game)
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Trigger said:
I don't envy Bioware's position. I give the Mass Effect team credit for trying (even if they could've done better in hindsight).
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I still think their core team could fix most of their problems by just firing or demoting the lead writer Mac Walters. I'm playing through the game now and it has a lot of solid moments despite its rushed nature like
the confrontation between Shepard and Mordin before you shoot him
.

Gameplay wise they would still have incredibly dumb RPGs but from a story/writing perspective it would fix a lot of their problems.
 
Derrick01 said:
I still think their core team could fix most of their problems by just firing or demoting the lead writer Mac Walters. I'm playing through the game now and it has a lot of solid moments despite its rushed nature like
the confrontation between Shepard and Mordin before you shoot him
.

Gameplay wise they would still have incredibly dumb RPGs but from a story/writing perspective it would fix a lot of their problems.
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I predict a lot of "DO NOT WANT" if they announce he is back for the next ME.
 
Finally got around to completing some of the endings. Seems like they did about the best job they could without betraying their original concepts. Whatever, I'm satisfied. Even just slightly expanding on some scenes during the buildup made a difference.

No desire to replay the game and the impact of the series has pretty much been lost on me at this point, but I'll give credit where it's due. It's not a trainwreck finish anymore, even if I have some fundamental problems with the devices they chose to use.
 
Derrick01 said:
I still think their core team could fix most of their problems by just firing or demoting the lead writer Mac Walters. I'm playing through the game now and it has a lot of solid moments despite its rushed nature like
the confrontation between Shepard and Mordin before you shoot him
.

Gameplay wise they would still have incredibly dumb RPGs but from a story/writing perspective it would fix a lot of their problems.
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Absolutely agree, there are plenty of good story beats in ME3 that were clearly handled by better writers than Walters. It's a shame they were so poorly served by the overall plot and the rudimentary game structure, there simply wasn't enough work done on the game to make it a worthy climax.
 
Bisnic said:
I predict a lot of "DO NOT WANT" if they announce he is back for the next ME.
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Including me most likely. I've grown to like ME3's combat a lot looking at it from a shooter perspective and they do still have solid writers there, but if Mac is in charge hamstringing it like he did with 2 and 3 then I'll probably have to bow out or reduce it to rental status at least. Even as I play through it again now and reminding myself the positives on the characters and story, I'm still being weighed down by my knowledge of what's coming at the end.
 
If anything, Walters will decide by myself to leave Bioware(or choose another role while still staying there) because he do not want to deal with the stress and all the crap he received another time. No one wants to deal with that again i bet, and he will not suddenly become the best writer in the world no matter how hard he try.
 
Ushojax said:
Absolutely agree, there are plenty of good story beats in ME3 that were clearly handled by better writers than Walters. It's a shame they were so poorly served by the overall plot and the rudimentary game structure, there simply wasn't enough work done on the game to make it a worthy climax.
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I can agree with that. I think most missions were really interesting and well done plotwise. The Krogan plotline and Mordin's demise were really well written for instance. On the other hand, the main story arc is quite poor unfotunately. It revolves around some blueprints for a magical gizmo that could have ben found in ME. It's such a shame they had to come down to this. They had 2 games to build up to a way to beat the reapers and they came up with the run of the mill magical weapon that would solve eveything. To add insult to the injury they also ended the game with a ridiculous choice from the little space wizard.
 
Derrick01 said:
Including me most likely. I've grown to like ME3's combat a lot looking at it from a shooter perspective and they do still have solid writers there, but if Mac is in charge hamstringing it like he did with 2 and 3 then I'll probably have to bow out or reduce it to rental status at least. Even as I play through it again now and reminding myself the positives on the characters and story, I'm still being weighed down by my knowledge of what's coming at the end.
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Who was the "lead" for Mass Effect 1? No game from the trilogy was perfect, and 2 and 3 had some incredible moments, but ME had a tone and feel that I didn't feel 2 or 3 were able to replicate. ME1 is still my favorite, but it still has some glaring weaknesses that 2 and 3 fixed.

I liked where the combat came in with the variations on classes; from a combat standpoint I don't know what they could have done differently without losing the general gamer.

The original ending was absolute shit, but the extended cut feels better. The plot holes are still numerous, and I think the game was rushed, but I can live with this new ending. Now imagine if they were given another year to work on this game what they could have accomplished.
 
Clockblockers said:
Who was the "lead" for Mass Effect 1? No game from the trilogy was perfect, and 2 and 3 had some incredible moments, but ME had a tone and feel that I didn't feel 2 or 3 were able to replicate. ME1 is still my favorite, but it still has some glaring weaknesses that 2 and 3 fixed.
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Drew Karpayshyn.
 
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