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[RafterXL]

The backlash was based on a dozen of GIFs which combined is like 1 minute of game time out of a 30h game.
This was always stupid and completely missing the point.

MEA is not a masterpiece but it's a good game, and looking backwards it may in fact end up being the last good game out of Bioware.
It's main problem is the boring uninspired main plot line but this isn't related to anything aside from Bioware's writers and their choice of where to take the franchise after ME3.
Minor technical and artistic issues are irrelevant at this scale.

No, the backlash is because it's a bad game.

The characters sucked, the story sucked, the animations sucks, it was buggy as fuck, had terrible facial tech, and it had a boring "open" world full of repetitive fetch quests. On top of that it got rid of all the cool aliens the games were known for and gave us two of the most boring races in ME history. The game sucked in every aspect but it's combat, and for the fourth entry into a massively popular space opera series, that doesn't cut it.

The fact is, the only reason anyone is talking nonsense like "Andromeda is good, actually" is because Bioware has only gotten worse since then. If Bioware was still making Dragon Age and Mass Effect games on the level they were previous to this game, no one would be pretending this game, or Anthem, which I've also seen people claim, is good.

My face is getting tired of these fucking dorks that are too stupid to read the room on why people didn't like their output, and then the classic of just saying reeeee toxic internet chuds instead of addressing the flaws of the game that made it not sell.

Andromeda probably had the best movement and gunplay of the series for me, but hard to care when the story and characters are a bore-fest, the obvious technical problems, and just the level structure having boring open-world areas devoid of interesting content in them.

Yeah, every aspect of the game was terrible but the combat. Anthem had great combat, who gives a fuck? It was also a terrible game. These games aren't Doom, and you can't follow up one of the greatest video game trilogies, if not the greatest, of all time with just good combat and expect people not to hate it.

 

[Hudo]

It already lost massive appeal (for me) when they first unveiled it, and it became clear that they just side-stepped the whole ending clusterfuck they had written themselves into with ME3. Don't be fucking cowards. Pick a canon ending and go with it. I don't give a flying fuck about what happens in fucking Andromeda.

 

[Flyingpanther]

The game was just okish . But very bad compared to the original trilogy and the story wasn't (for me) very interesting. wasn't one of the writers sam maggs or something?

 

[dgrdsv]

No, the backlash is because it's a bad game.

The game wasn't even out when the backlash started.
It reviewed fine (72% MC on PC) so it's definitely not a "bad game".
What you're talking about is the comparisons to games of the original trilogy which were, of course, better.
But this wasn't what the backlash was about. In fact I wish it was cause that would give Bioware some actually valuable feedback.

 

[No Banana]

The game was just okish . But very bad compared to the original trilogy and the story wasn't (for me) very interesting. wasn't one of the writers sam maggs or something?

Ugh Sam Maggs, I'd almost forgotten that whiny banshee

I checked Moby Games, and she was on Anthem (lol) but not sure about Andromeda

Edit: Writers were:

• John Dombrow (lead writer)
• Cathleen Rootsaert (lead writer)
• Chris Schlerf (lead writer)
• Joanna Berry
• Sheryl Chee
• Hall Hood
• Lukas Kristjanson
• Ann Lemay
• Neil Pollner
• Samantha Wallschlaeger --> Helped kill Bloodlines 2, tried to downplay she worked on Andromeda after its release lol
• Jay Watamaniuk
• Courtney Woods

 

[simpatico]

The backlash was based on a dozen of GIFs which combined is like 1 minute of game time out of a 30h game.
This was always stupid and completely missing the point.

MEA is not a masterpiece but it's a good game, and looking backwards it may in fact end up being the last good game out of Bioware.
It's main problem is the boring uninspired main plot line but this isn't related to anything aside from Bioware's writers and their choice of where to take the franchise after ME3.
Minor technical and artistic issues are irrelevant at this scale.

This sounds like a take from someone who didn't actually play it. Sure the gameplay looks fine in videos, but the rot goes far beyond the sloppy cut scene animation. Wait til you hear the Krogan's voice and get a load of how they try to characterize her. The deeper you peer into this game's core, the worse it gets. The characters are the Bioware part of the game. They've never been known for their mechanics. All that whiz bang third person action you saw in MEA was done by people EA brought in to help Bioware on the gameplay front. All the worst parts of Andromeda, the story and characters, are the primary Bioware contributions. If anything you could say the EA DICE Frostbite mercenaries almost made the game salvageable with the fun shooting loop and decent looking gameplay assets.

Dragon Age Origins and Mass Effect 1 were the last good Bioware games.

 

[German Shocks]

DONE DIRTY

 

[poodaddy]

This sounds like a take from someone who didn't actually play it. Sure the gameplay looks fine in videos, but the rot goes far beyond the sloppy cut scene animation. Wait til you hear the Krogan's voice and get a load of how they try to characterize her. The deeper you peer into this game's core, the worse it gets. The characters are the Bioware part of the game. They've never been known for their mechanics. All that whiz bang third person action you saw in MEA was done by people EA brought in to help Bioware on the gameplay front. All the worst parts of Andromeda, the story and characters, are the primary Bioware contributions. If anything you could say the EA DICE Frostbite mercenaries almost made the game salvageable with the fun shooting loop and decent looking gameplay assets.

Dragon Age Origins and Mass Effect 1 were the last good Bioware games.

Well fuckin said.

 

[dgrdsv]

This sounds like a take from someone who didn't actually play it.

Sure pal.

 

[KanKamAndNob]

This sounds like a take from someone who didn't actually play it. Sure the gameplay looks fine in videos, but the rot goes far beyond the sloppy cut scene animation. Wait til you hear the Krogan's voice and get a load of how they try to characterize her. The deeper you peer into this game's core, the worse it gets. The characters are the Bioware part of the game. They've never been known for their mechanics. All that whiz bang third person action you saw in MEA was done by people EA brought in to help Bioware on the gameplay front. All the worst parts of Andromeda, the story and characters, are the primary Bioware contributions. If anything you could say the EA DICE Frostbite mercenaries almost made the game salvageable with the fun shooting loop and decent looking gameplay assets.

Dragon Age Origins and Mass Effect 1 were the last good Bioware games.

I'd add Mass Effect 2, but you're not wrong though. Bioware has been garbage for a looong time, but absolute dogshit like Anthem and especially Veilguard just encapsulates it.

Remember when we though Dragon Age 2 was the worst Bioware game?