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[Geist-]

I'm guess I'm in the minority in that I think this is probably the best way to do it. I won't be buying the ME:A CE but giving me the option to get it digitally without having to buy it twice if I want the CE is very good for consumers. Choice is always better.

 

[The Artisan]

If it's clearly marked, what does it matter?

THAT is what matters. ea knows CEs are video game bundles so they need to make the clear distinction that this CE doesn't include the core product, but why?

If you want to buy the game digitally, and still get the collector's edition goodies, then you don't have to buy the game twice to get it. Buy the game anyway you want. Take advantage of the Amazon discount. Wait for the GreenMan sale. Buy a key, buy it used, whatever. If for some reason you have a hardon for the toys, you have more options.

I swear,

-More options=complain
-Less options=complain
-No change=complain

buying the collector's edition means not buying the game at all.

 

[Tony Redgrave]

Well, I wouldn't think this as problematic unless it became generalised and somehow affected standard editions. As it stands it's simply a super-deluxe extra for those who can afford it.
This would be questionable if they were trying to hide the fact, but since they don't seem to be... diversity is always better, can't say anything about it other than that.

 

[m4st4]

Imagine buying collector's version of a movie except there's no movie, just special features and some figurine.

Imagine buying a house, you get a nice pool, garage, even dog house with dog in it... except there's no house.

 

[Destin715]

Unfortunately this is becoming more and more common with CEs.

I remember when Wolfenstein: TNO did this and it was a huge deal.

 

[Enduin]

Imagine buying collector's version of a movie except there's no movie, just special features and some figurine.

Imagine buying a house, you get a nice pool, garage, even dog house with dog in it... except there's no house.

Imagine paying attention to the things you buy and what's included and the options available to you. Including buying the CE with the Game.

 

[AnthonypUK]

Yup, Mass Effect Cheap Crap Edition, just get the one with the game, you and you wallet will be much happier.

 

[The Artisan]

Imagine paying attention to the things you buy and what's included and the options available to you.

obviously people are paying attention, and that's what's getting them pissed off (at this CE)

 

[TheGamingBox]

Well, I wouldn't think this as problematic unless it became generalised and somehow affected standard editions. As it stands it's simply a super-deluxe extra for those who can afford it.
This would be questionable if they were trying to hide the fact, but since they don't seem to be... diversity is always better, can't say anything about it other than that.

i checked gamestop, and they catergorize as a collectible and not as a game

 

[Gai Murakumo]

Again why??? Does it cost EA that much more to include the game instead of not. Cmon even if it is a piece of paper with a digital download code on it why create an edition like this. Also I know this is not the first time they have done this but that should be not an excuse.

 

[Enduin]

obviously people are paying attention, and that's what's getting them pissed off (at this CE)

And yet many others are happy with this as it gives them the power to choose whether they are buying a digital or physical copy of the game or a vanilla version or a deluxe edition or a super deluxe version of the game instead of being stuck with whaterver version the CE comes with.

 

[The Artisan]

i checked gamestop, and they catergorize as a collectible and not as a game

which is fine, this is ME merchandise but calling it a collector's edition

And yet many others are happy with this as it gives them the power to choose whether they are buying a digital or physical copy of the game or a vanilla version or a deluxe edition or a super deluxe version of the game instead of being stuck with whaterver version the CE comes with.

who are the many others and how do they compare to the many who are annoyed, honestly

 

[JeffG]

Again why??? Does it cost EA that much more to include the game instead of not. Cmon even if it is a piece of paper with a digital download code on it why create an edition like this. Also I know this is not the first time they have done this but that should be not an excuse.

Which game do they put in it?

 

[Pastulio]

It's a scam to get money and I don't understand how people can defend it (much less since it's coming from EA)

An "Edition" is, by definition, a second version of a base item. In this context the base item is the video game. If you take out the base item (the game) then it's not an Edition. It's a separate product.

If you bought a "Special Edition" Ferarri that came with 4 tires and nothing else would you be happy with your purchase?

 

[TheGamingBox]

Again why??? Does it cost EA that much more to include the game instead of not. Cmon even if it is a piece of paper with a digital download code on it why create an edition like this. Also I know this is not the first time they have done this but that should be not an excuse.

i think the problem is people thinking its a collecters edition for the game, but its more a collectors edition for the vehicle

in fact there are 3 versions of the vehicle
a mini diecast version


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M7XSNEF/?tag=neogaf0e-20


a bigger diecast collectors edition
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MREH4H2/?tag=neogaf0e-20

and a rc version
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M2CQ490/?tag=neogaf0e-20

infact the title on gamestop is alot more clear on this

http://www.gamestop.com/collectible...ast-model-nomad-nd1-collectors-edition/138483

It's a scam to get money and I don't understand how people can defend it (much less since it's coming from EA)

An "Edition" is, by definition, a second version of a base item. In this context the base item is the video game. If you take out the base item (the game) then it's not an Edition. It's a separate product.

If you bought a "Special Edition" Ferarri that came with 4 tires and nothing else would you be happy with your purchase?

well actually the base item is this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M7XSNEF/?tag=neogaf0e-20 and not the game

 

[Angel_DvA]

that's probably why I stopped buying those collectors edition, standard it is, I stopped supporting stupid thing on gaming ( preorder, season pass, weak DLC etc... ) since the editors can't be serious and respectful with their fans...

 

[nullref]

which is fine, this is ME merchandise but calling it a collector's edition

So you're simply upset at what they've named it? And you'd have no issue if they renamed it to "Collector's Crate" or whatever, and changed nothing else about their offering? The name is a little dumb, but that seems like such a tiny thing to care about.

If you bought a "Special Edition" Ferarri that came with 4 tires and nothing else would you be happy with your purchase?

If I knew up front that's what I would get, then sure. I might think Ferrari's marketing department had done something a little silly, but that's about it.

 

[Massa]

It's a scam to get money and I don't understand how people can defend it (much less since it's coming from EA)

An "Edition" is, by definition, a second version of a base item. In this context the base item is the video game. If you take out the base item (the game) then it's not an Edition. It's a separate product.

If you bought a "Special Edition" Ferarri that came with 4 tires and nothing else would you be happy with your purchase?

I actually bought the "special edition" wheels and tires for my car, a couple years after getting the base model of the car. Worked out great for me.

I don't understand how anyone can be outraged by this. The game is $60. All the other crap comes separately. How hard is it to add two items to your shopping cart? Or do people actually think they wouldn't charged $60 more to sell you the game with these overpriced toys?

 

[BibiMaghoo]

So it's a collector's addition, not collector's edition.

You jest, but it's a sensible distinction. Perhaps it should be used.

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

It's not a great practice, but yeah u can kinda understand it.

The number of these things that get left over after they make potentially three different SKUs of them. It's a lot of waste.

 

[The Artisan]

i think the problem is people thinking its a collecters edition for the game, but its more a collectors edition for the vehicle

in fact there are 3 versions of the vehicle
a mini diecast version


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M7XSNEF/?tag=neogaf0e-20


a bigger diecast collectors edition
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MREH4H2/?tag=neogaf0e-20

and a rc version
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M2CQ490/?tag=neogaf0e-20

infact the title on gamestop is alot more clear on this

http://www.gamestop.com/collectible...ast-model-nomad-nd1-collectors-edition/138483



well actually the base item is this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M7XSNEF/?tag=neogaf0e-20 and not the game

it was stated that this nomad is supposed to be a collector's edition of the game, just not including the game. not a collector's edition of the toy, since it released the same day as the game but the other toys you sourced have a placeholder release date of dec 31st.

So you're simply upset at what they've named it? And you'd have no issue if they renamed it to "Collector's Crate" or whatever, and changed nothing else about their offering? The name is a little dumb, but that seems like such a tiny thing to care about.

it depends on what this item is supposed to be. it's supposed to be the collector's edition, a retail release of the video game. so i'm just upset that they're not including the core product in their collector's edition version of the release of this product

 

[Pastulio]

I actually bought the "special edition" wheels and tires for my car, a couple years after getting the base model of the car. Worked out great for me.

I don't understand how anyone can be outraged by this. The game is $60. All the other crap comes separately. How hard is it to add two items to your shopping cart? Or do people actually think they wouldn't charged $60 more to sell you the game with these overpriced toys?

Thanks for proving my point?

The only people who should be outraged by this are those who didn't read the fine print and assume the Special Edition of a game comes with.. well the game. It's a shady business practice on EA's part, but the Video Game Industry has been shady as hell for years now (especially EA). Why people still buy their products baffles me.

 

[Salty Rice]

So you're simply upset at what they've named it? And you'd have no issue if they renamed it to "Collector's Crate" or whatever, and changed nothing else about their offering? The name is a little dumb, but that seems like such a tiny thing to care about.

Well if you just see the name and dont read into it it could be considered false advertisement.

 

[chrominance]

People in this thread being all "lol collector's edition doesn't come with the game, the other stuff is dumb/worthless/etc." seem like they're so, so close to some greater revelation regarding collector's editions and yet so far away.

This honestly seems like a much better way to sell the CE trinkets than the old multi-SKU method. The only reason I can think of to oppose this is if you somehow think they decided to remove the game but also didn't lower the price, which I doubt. Even if that were true, as always, you have to judge whether the trinkets in the CE are worth the extra cost; if anything determining the worth of the package is slightly more transparent this way.

 

[ironcreed]

Well if you just see the name and dont read into it it could be considered false advertisement.

Indeed. I mean, how in the hell is it a collector's edition of the game when what it represents is not even included? Just being real here.

 

[JeffG]

Well if you just see the name and dont read into it it could be considered false advertisement.

yes it is EA's fault someone doesnt read.

 

[JeffG]

Indeed. I mean, how in the hell is it a collector's edition of the game when what it represents is not even included? Just being real here.

because it is a box of junk that is related to a game that collectors collect.

 

[hanspampel]

Why include the game in the package at all? Is there a shortage of Mass Effect discs?

Seems easy enough to combine the game with this collectors edition. I don't get why this is a problem. In fact it sounds like the best of both worlds, because you can choose how you buy the game.

because people would not complain anymore.

 

[Salty Rice]

yes it is EA's fault someone doesnt read.

Thats not the point.

If for example a parent or someone would want to buy as a present without knowing they would think A VERSION OF THE GAME includes THE GAME.

Not that hard to understand.

 

[Cathcart]

People in this thread being all "lol collector's edition doesn't come with the game, the other stuff is dumb/worthless/etc." seem like they're so, so close to some greater revelation regarding collector's editions and yet so far away.

This honestly seems like a much better way to sell the CE trinkets than the old multi-SKU method. The only reason I can think of to oppose this is if you somehow think they decided to remove the game but also didn't lower the price, which I doubt. Even if that were true, as always, you have to judge whether the trinkets in the CE are worth the extra cost; if anything determining the worth of the package is slightly more transparent this way.

Yeah what is wrong with you guys. I wish Nintendo had done this for the TP HD release. I buy downloads only now but that Amiibo was cool.

 

[ironcreed]

because it is a box of junk that is related to a game that collectors collect.

Which is why it should not be called the collector's edition and should be sold as what it is separately. Leave the 'editions' to packages that come with the game.

 

[JeffG]

Not that hard to understand.

Clearly this thread proves otherwise.

 

[Yarbskoo]

If they're going to take the game out, they may as well just sell all that shit separately so people can pick what they want to pay for.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

Thats not the point.

If for example a parent or someone would want to buy as a present without knowing they would think A VERSION OF THE GAME includes THE GAME.

Not that hard to understand.

And it's EA's fault that a "parent or someone" would buy something before understanding what is included?

 

[Neo_Geo]

They could atleast add a digital downloadable code with it like how Sonic Mania collectors edition does

Yeah, anyone OK with this kind of move is just inviting further fuckery from game companies. About as shortsighted as the Republicans this forum hates.

 

[JeffG]

Which is why it should not be called the collector's edition and should be sold as what it is separately. Leave the 'editions' to packages that come with the game.

So if they called it something else you would be ok with it?

 

[Zen_Arcade]

THAT is what matters. ea knows CEs are video game bundles so they need to make the clear distinction that this CE doesn't include the core product, but why? buying the collector's edition means not buying the game at all.

Yes, but if the collectors edition is priced accordingly then why do you care?

If you can buy the game in any format you want and buy the collectors box full of stuff and still have it come out to what you would pay if they packaged it all together then what is your issue?

Clearly this thread proves otherwise.

This thread doesn't prove that it's hard to understand. This thread proves that there are a bunch of people on the internet who get caught up on semantics and whine even when something might be more beneficial to them.

Also, "Collectors edition" isn't limited to video game bundles. Marking an RC car as "Collectors edition" is a perfectly reasonable and common thing to do. There are "Collectors edition" statues and toys inside of every comic shop in America that come with nothing but the statue or toy described.

 

[Eumi]

So is it actually called 'edition'? Cause if so that's misleading, if not then this isn't shady at all.

 

[Salty Rice]

And it's EA's fault that a "parent or someone" would buy something before understanding what is included?

Its about the fact that the name is wrong, makes no sense and is deceptive and it can lead into tricking people.

If people get actually tricked is another story.

 

[TheGamingBox]

Thats not the point.

If for example a parent or someone would want to buy as a present without knowing they would think A VERSION OF THE GAME includes THE GAME.

Not that hard to understand.

well both gamestop and bestbuy use a better title than what amazon use so less chances that parents would get confused

 

[GearDraxon]

So is it actually called 'edition'? Cause if so that's misleading, if not then this isn't shady at all.

Per the BioWare Store, it is the "Mass Effect: Andromeda Nomad ND1 Model Collector's Edition," which is a poorly-worded way to indicate that it's the *model* that is the collector's edition.

Amazon and Gamestop both have listings that make it more clear that the model is the focus.

But by all means, angry people. Boycott the game, make poorly-constructed car analogies, etc.

 

[KeyChainDude]

Companies have started doing this for a reason - so they don't end up producing expensive console-specific versions, then having leftover copies that won't sell because someone doesn't have an Xbox or a PS4. If they make just the standard "Special Edition" with the steelbook and stuff, yeah they get you for a sale twice, but you also get to pick which console you get the game for without them having to make four different SKUs.

And there you go. No need to overreact, it makes sense and makes the CE cheaper for those who already got the game through other means.

 

[Biske]

Kind of makes a lot of sense.

If only cause then you can still buy digital, but still get all your schlocky crap or buy the version you want and still get all your schlocky crap, as has been said in this thread.

As long as the prices are right, I don't see the problem.

 

[Coxy100]

"collector's edition" seems like a stretch. it's a $200 RC car

This.

 

[ZombieFred]

A VIDEO GAME NOT SELLING THE VIDEO GAME?!

 

[outunderthestars]

Companies have started doing this for a reason - so they don't end up producing expensive console-specific versions, then having leftover copies that won't sell because someone doesn't have an Xbox or a PS4. If they make just the standard "Special Edition" with the steelbook and stuff, yeah they get you for a sale twice, but you also get to pick which console you get the game for without them having to make four different SKUs.

That makes alot of sense.

 

[shandy706]

I have no problem with this.

I like the idea of a Single Collectors edition and then being able to pick the console copy of the game I want.

 

[level1]

Oh for fucks sake.

If it not includes the game its not a Collectors Edition because its just junk and not a version of the game.

Maybe they mean it's the edition for people who only like collecting stuff and hate playing video games.

Spoiler

Steelbook and no game also never gets old

 

[FinaruDensetsu]

They can't even toss in a game that will undoubtedly be selling for 29.99 or less 3 weeks after release?

 

[Skatterd]

Like
There's literally a version with the game and a version without.
Despite being an overpriced collectors edition I'm not seeing the problem here?