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Chiggs said:
... it's a video game.
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... it's a video game.
Chiggs
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Are you saying it doesn't matter? I think it does; not only because it's just flat out dumb, but because the beginning of the game is slow and boring, and had they replaced the whole "evidence finding" stuff with something else, there's a good chance the game would be even better.
If you never played a good PC RPG: Prepare to be either blown away, or bored to death.
If you played a good PC RPG before: Expect a decent game. Not spectacular, but competent.
In some ways, it's like Bioshock. Something that has rarely been done on consoles, but still somewhat watered down from what has been done on PCs.
If you played a good PC RPG before: Expect a decent game. Not spectacular, but competent.
In some ways, it's like Bioshock. Something that has rarely been done on consoles, but still somewhat watered down from what has been done on PCs.
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Chiggs said:
Eden Prime is there to show the player what they are ultimately up against. Don't know about you, but I was pretty amazed at what I saw, and it made me want to keep playing.
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mass effect is the 2nd worst game i've played this gen. :-\
don't expect much.
don't expect much.
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It's a great game, I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
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Ysiadmihi said:
I loved the speeches in Mass Effect. Captain Kirrahe's speech on Virmire is a classic.
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Pimpbaa said:
Give up overrated games.
I completed both KOTOR games, and I really thought I enjoyed them simply because they were Star Wars. After playing Mass Effect for some hours, I realize that I actually enjoyed it for what it was. It pretty much feels like a KOTOR game, but without swords and jedis and stuff. Also, the battle mode is much better, as the game is more or less an action rpg.
KOTOR had plenty of flaws too, the second having the most obvious one (rushed ending, unfinished story). I was hoping for a KOTOR 3 to come out sooner or later, but now I'd be just as happy with a Mass Effect 2 - which we already know is coming.
It's probably the best (or very nearly at least) X360 game I've played to date. Didn't expect too much, so I was pleasantly surprised.
KOTOR had plenty of flaws too, the second having the most obvious one (rushed ending, unfinished story). I was hoping for a KOTOR 3 to come out sooner or later, but now I'd be just as happy with a Mass Effect 2 - which we already know is coming.
It's probably the best (or very nearly at least) X360 game I've played to date. Didn't expect too much, so I was pleasantly surprised.
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Im trying to get inot the pc version (no im not playing side mission), its the inventory system, Im not sure which weapon is better on who and there are a ton of ammo types, totally confusing me.
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xS1TH L0RDx said:
ANOTHER GAF FACT FOR THE BOOKS!
Not liking a game = it's overrated.
dreamer3kx said:
The different ammo and stuff is a little overwhelming at first. I ignored it completely for the first few hours until I got more familiar with the game.
As far as which weapon to use for which character, you can check their talents (skill points? I forget what they're called atm) to see what they're trained in.
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Pimpbaa said:
Nice tag. I'm done here.
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disappeared said:
well if you dislike a game due to several rather large flaws it has, then i think it's fair to question the glowing reviews it got
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You will cry tears OF BOREDOM. I was able to get 8 hours into this before I passed it up. Better than Jade Empire but probably the second worst Bioware game ever. While the visuals are some of the best (not counting UE3 pop ins) and the voicework is up to snuff its just not enough. The combat is clunky, the side quests insipid and the loading is by far the worst outside of Soldier of Fortune for the Dreamcast
.My letdown of 2008, sadly.
Do yourself a favor and get BG/BG2/MDK/MDK2/KOTOR if you're in need of a Bioware fix.
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Do yourself a favor and get BG/BG2/MDK/MDK2/KOTOR if you're in need of a Bioware fix.
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BlazingDarkness said:
I'd venture a guess that most reviewers set aside the relatively small issues and saw the bigger picture. The texture pop-in isn't exclusive to Mass Effect. Gears of War had it, Uncharted had it, BioShock had it... It's nothing new, and only lasts a few moments. The loading sequences via elevators were much better than changing over to a black "Loading..." screen, if you ask me. The empty planets are a valid gripe, and towards the end I even skipped some of them. I still loved the game though.
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disappeared said:
i hope they mix up the combat a lot as well, it feels really weak and clunky, whereas stuff like the speech mechanics are really well refined, the game design doesn't feel balanced imo
to clarify, for me, it feels like they almost built everything to accommodate the chat system
Chiggs
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disappeared said:
I agree, it's necessary to have something of a tutorial mission, and it's not the enviroment or even story (initially) that bothers me during that section. Here's the issue:
there shouldn't have even been a question of whether or not Saren was the one behind Eden Prime. The Council should have known because, logically, there would have been surveillance cameras around such an artifact. Actually, even if there wasn't an artifact, there still would have been cameras. Like I said, my local 7-11 has three of them. What are they guarding, chips and a safe with less than a grand? And the humans on Prime are guarding, at least, a colony, and at most, a Prothean artifact? Give me a break.
It's a stupid plothole which is sort of bothering because the "having to find evidence" part just seems so pointless once you start thinking about it. I know the developers wanted you to be at odds with the Council, which was a great idea, but they really just seem hopelessly dumb in that part. And so do the humans at Eden Prime. I mean, you get a video transmission which shows all the fighting...was that the only camera on the planet?
I'm clearly over-analyzing, but it really is sort of dumb. Mass Effect relies on its story, which is mostly excellent. But that part...hoo boy.
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Uh, no. It's a good game. What the Hell is a FLAWED MASTERPIECE? A masterpiece is flawless. Mass Effect falls a great length from flawless.Duck said:
You know what really irked me about the Citadel? The fact that there are SIGNS EVERYWHERE, and NONE OF THEM indicate anything. ALL OF THEM LOOK THE SAME, TOO. WHAT THE HELL, BIOWARE? LEARN HOW TO IMPLEMENT SOME LOGICAL DESIGN, THANKS.
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Chiggs said:
this
...the place is a fucking mess
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AgentOtaku said:
Well...
The Citadal gets fucked over towards the end, so there will probably a different central hub for part two.
Chiggs said:
Are you serious about this? If they were there or not it wouldnt matter because Saren is no idiot, hes more or less the top Specter and hes got an army of Geth, if there cameras around they would have most definitely taken them out and only after that would Saren have gone down to the planet and examine the beacon.
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Concept17 said:
buy it, you'll enjoy it
just dont expect a masterpiece, flawed or not
Chiggs
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Enduin said:
Taken them out? How so...by force or just disabling them via hacking, because from what I can tell of the VIDEO TRANSMISSION Shepard and friends are watching from the Normandy, he's doing the former, which makes him more of an idiot. Seriously, this guy is flying around on a hoverboard and controlling an army of Geth, and not one camera catches him?
And if he disabled the cameras via hacking or something, why didn't the story mention that, or at least show that? Seems to be a pretty big part, considering how sneaky Saren supposedly is, and how skeptical the Council seems, even after eyewitness testimony.
Maybe I missed an NPC that said "Yeah, all of our systems went down right before they arrived. Computers, security, everything." I'm not trying to be snarky here; did I miss some exposition on Eden Prime?
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What are you doing?! Do not do this! There is no such thing as a FLAWED MASTERPIECE.BlazingDarkness said:
Chiggs said:
Not to take away from the rest of the game, but I completely agree, the beginning of Mass Effect is a prime example of an Idiot Plot. Afterwords though the story gets better.
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U K Narayan said:
i was referring to the earlier comments people made
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By the boring start are you guys talking about the time spent on the Citadel? I loved that part.
I think I'm about to find
on the mining planet, but I'm nervous about starting this boss fight after the tedious (for me)
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I think I'm about to find
Liari(?)
fight with the Matriarch
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KHarvey16 said:
I know what masterpiece means. Generally, when the term is coined, it usually refers to something that has an excellent confluence of the elements at hand. To call something a flawed masterpiece is contradictory, because it obviously doesn't demonstrate such a confluence. This, to me - anyway, nullifies the point of something being called a masterpiece to begin with.
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Chiggs said:
No, you didnt miss any kind of explanation, its just an insignificant detail. Saren is as skilled as they come, he wouldnt let himself get caught by cameras, whether he evaded them or had them disabled. And he wasnt flying around on a hoverboard in Eden Prime, the Geth attacked took everyone and everything out and he came in after it was all done.
The whole point of the Eden Prime attack was to destroy the beacon and not connect to Saren at all, but look like a Geth attack. Even the Council said it themselves that humanity knew the risk of establishing a settlement near Geth space. And it would make no sense for them to believe Shepard that some dead smuggler who hid during the fighting saw Saren.
Eden Prime to me was a great setup that set the story but left you guessing. If any of the beginning was flawed it was the Citadel,
exposing Saren by just wandering around the Wards was a bit ridiculous, more traveling and exploration of other areas should have been involved
U K Narayan said:
Please think about the word a little bit(or alternatively, look it up). It means, as one could imagine from simply looking at it, a great piece of work or more specifically the best thing a particular person or group has produced. "Flawed" is an entirely acceptable way to describe a masterpiece.
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