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Media Create Sales: Dec 14-20, 2009
- Thread starter Chris1964
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Near said:For comparisons sake if someones willing to do it, or if it's worth having a look at all. What other Cero D rated new IPs have sold in league with it dating back to last gen?
CERO ratings only date back to last gen anyway, and even then it wasn't there at the start of the PS2 generation. Bayonetta isn't exactly an amazing seller in the CERO18/CERO D category by any means if you take the entire sample of games. Some notable CERO D new IPs from PS1/PS2 era:
- MGS (PS1)
- Resident Evil (PS1)
- Xenogears (PS1)
- Onimusha (PS2)
- Devil May Cry (PS2)
- Ryu ga Gotoku (PS2)
As you can see, it's not particularly impressive that Bayonetta is at ~200k+.
Edit: Interestingly enough, MGS wasn't actually rated CERO D. It's rated CERO C (PSN release), while MGS2 and above are CERO D.
Edit2: More interestingly enough, Resident Evil's original release might not have been CERO C either, if the rating system had existed back then. Since only the Director's Cut is on PSN, it is rated CERO D, but RE2 is rated CERO C, with RE3 being CERO D again. Most lilely for the the FMVs.
duckroll said:
Would Parasite Eve fall under that rating category? What usually makes a game CERO D vs a lower category? Blood/Gore?
Onesimos said:
The M-C threads have been around for years. Most of the regulars in this thread have been posting in the M-C threads for years. You get a hard time from people because you are repeating facts/arguments that 100 people have said 1000 times as though you were the first person to notice them. Being pushy on GAF also doesn't do you favors when you registered a few months ago. A lot of the community members have been here for 5+ years.
Despite what it may seem like, video game message boards are not serious business. Instead of storming off in a rage, vowing to never visit GAF again, why don't you just relax. Maybe lurk in the M-C threads for awhile until you know who is who, and then come back when you are ready to have a little more fun while discussing numbers that really only matter to company stockholders.
A Twisty Fluken
Member
Penguin said:
It's a life sim game starring the Miis.
kswiston said:
Parasite Eve has never been re-released (not even on disc!) in Japan, and it is not on PSN, so we'll probably never know for sure. But considering the shower scene, and how the game is quite gross/violent in some of the FMVs, I would say, yes that's a good candidate too. After all Xenogears had enough to earn it a CERO D on PSN.
There are no exact hard and fast rules of what makes a CERO C game and a CERO D game, BUT, for what it is worth, I think if we're talking about market perception, then any "red warning" label game from the PS1 generation and early PS2 generation (it's a triangular red warning label which says "This game contains scenes explicit violence and grotesque imagery") should have had the same "impact" on consumers are a CERO D or CERO 18 label had once CERO started rating games. The actual CERO re-rating now of older games should not even matter.
In that case, then games like RE1, MGS, PE, Dino Crisis, etc would all count.
Looking back at last December, it seems that DS might actually be down YoY.
It's got to do another 411,423 in the next 2 weeks to match last year's total (going by Media Create), and it doesn't seem to be getting the same boost as it did last (it was already doing over 250k in the 3rd to last week, as opposed to the 183k it did this year).
Spirit Tracks might help it a bit, but unless it sees big gains, it looks like it'll be slightly down overall.
It's got to do another 411,423 in the next 2 weeks to match last year's total (going by Media Create), and it doesn't seem to be getting the same boost as it did last (it was already doing over 250k in the 3rd to last week, as opposed to the 183k it did this year).
Spirit Tracks might help it a bit, but unless it sees big gains, it looks like it'll be slightly down overall.
I think you are a bit too harsh on Onesimos.
It's obvious that he has limited knowledge about Media Create threads but he is trying hard to show that he is very interested about them.
Onesimos it's not necessary to stop posting just have always in mind that you are lacking some very basic information about Japanese sales. That's not bad. No one new everything from the beginning. If you are really interested read carefully these threads and soon you'll be able to have a more active role in them. Just stay at the corner for a while until this happens.
It's obvious that he has limited knowledge about Media Create threads but he is trying hard to show that he is very interested about them.
Onesimos it's not necessary to stop posting just have always in mind that you are lacking some very basic information about Japanese sales. That's not bad. No one new everything from the beginning. If you are really interested read carefully these threads and soon you'll be able to have a more active role in them. Just stay at the corner for a while until this happens.
Chris1964 said:
Chris was more elegantly than me, but I agree. Don't stop visiting/posting on GAF. Just realize that it will take awhile before you will be knowledgeable enough in Japanese sales that people will start valuing your input.
I've been reading these threads pretty religiously for 3+ years, and I still don't know half as much as people like Chris, Joshua, and others do.
duckroll said:
So Basically, Bayonetta did pretty well for a new IP launching on PS3/360, but is nothing special when compared to similar franchise starters in the last two console generations.
I'm bored without numbers. These are all the games with sales>100k after the 20th week (Famitsu)
[NDS] Friend Collection (Nintendo) - 188.000 (27th week)
[NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) - 185.021 (31st week)
[NDS] Brain Training (Nintendo) - 160.670 (33rd week)
[GBA] Famicom Mini: Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) - 158.312 (83rd week)
[NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World (Nintendo) - 131.806 (57th week)
[NDS] Brain Training (Nintendo) - 130.656 (34th week)
[NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) - 130.021 (33rd week)
[WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 126.850 (57th week)
[WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 108.629 (55th week)
[NDS] More Brain Training (Nintendo) - 104.728 (54th week)
[WII] Wii Play (Nintendo) - 104.635 (55th week)
[WII] Wii Play (Nintendo) - 102.701 (57th week)
As expected it's all Nintendo. Friend Collection has at least two weeks more. This and the next. 83rd week for Famicom Mini: Super Mario Bros. was actually the reprint of the game for the GB Micro launch.
[NDS] Friend Collection (Nintendo) - 188.000 (27th week)
[NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) - 185.021 (31st week)
[NDS] Brain Training (Nintendo) - 160.670 (33rd week)
[GBA] Famicom Mini: Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) - 158.312 (83rd week)
[NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World (Nintendo) - 131.806 (57th week)
[NDS] Brain Training (Nintendo) - 130.656 (34th week)
[NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) - 130.021 (33rd week)
[WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 126.850 (57th week)
[WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 108.629 (55th week)
[NDS] More Brain Training (Nintendo) - 104.728 (54th week)
[WII] Wii Play (Nintendo) - 104.635 (55th week)
[WII] Wii Play (Nintendo) - 102.701 (57th week)
As expected it's all Nintendo. Friend Collection has at least two weeks more. This and the next. 83rd week for Famicom Mini: Super Mario Bros. was actually the reprint of the game for the GB Micro launch.
thestopsign
Member
Jonnyram said:
Is there no chance of Media-Create publishing numbers today?
Chris1964 said:
Even if MC delays until next week, they may still send out the early info that shows up on Gpara and Inside-Games.jp. That usually shows up in 6-7 hours or so.
Edit:
BTW, the MC Posts graph is updated through last weeks thread. In a nutshell, weekly posts are back to 2005 levels with the FFXIII thread being a huge deviation from that and something like the second highest MC thread post count ever.
Edit2:
Chris1964 said:
Cheesemeister, Cheesemeister. Well, it looks like I'm going to have to upload your "Hardware" image to my Photobucket account and stop leeching off of yours now.
Thanks for all your work on the MC threads! 
Refreshment.01
Member
Im not into sales as much as i used to be, now just dive into threads like these cassually.Chris1964 said:
But i most say this is one of the most interesting number collections i can remember. Outstanding job there Chris.
VegaShinra
Junior Member
I hope so. We need MC numbers!Chris1964 said:
test_account
XP-39C²
As Chris1964 and kswiston already said, i dont think that you need to leave NeoGAF. I havnt read this Media Create thread that much, so i only know what Stopsign told me when i asked what you had said, but i dont think that you need to leave NeoGAF because of those things that you saidOnesimos said:
Onesimos said:
I am honestly sorry if I came across as a dick- I'm all for more posters to become involved in these threads. But acting as if you are making amazing insights out of really obvious conclusions (like "wow, great Wii hardware sales, I wonder if the holidays had something to do with it") gets to be a bit much.
Chris1964 said:
It's almost bizarre that Nintendo is mostly alone when it comes to making games with huge legs. With the number of developers in Japan and the number of quality games it almost doesn't make sense.
wrowa said:
My favorite post of his is from the Amazon top 10 of 09 thread -
Hero of Legend
Member
markatisu said:
Speaking of which, the original's getting a best-price release on February 25th.
And yeah, hopefully Graces does get an increase this week.
Huh, I must have missed that one.duckroll said:There's nothing to doubt. It's right out of Hino's mouth. Ninokuni will have a DS version and a a home console version for an unspecified platform, just like Inazuma Eleven Break. He specifically mentioned that it would be largely the same game with better visuals for home console, and also include the book in the package, like the DS game. Mobile phones are neither a home console, nor does the mobile version come in a package with the book, for obvious reasons.
My bad.
thestopsign
Member
dolemite said:
That's around when we get the HW #s normally. We get the SW #s sometime tonight, EST. Though, like dole said, it might vary this week because it's the holidays.
Famitsu Top 10: 12/21 - 12/27/2009
1. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo)
2. [NDS] The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks (Nintendo)
3. [NDS] Friend Collection (Nintendo)
4. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix)
5. [NDS] Pokemon HeartGold/SoulSilver (Pokemon)
6. [WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo)
7. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 2 Fire/Blizzard (Level 5)
8. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
9. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii 2 (Bandai Namco)
10. [NDS] Professor Layton and the Flute of the Malevolent Spirit (Level 5)
...:lol
1. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo)
2. [NDS] The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks (Nintendo)
3. [NDS] Friend Collection (Nintendo)
4. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix)
5. [NDS] Pokemon HeartGold/SoulSilver (Pokemon)
6. [WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo)
7. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 2 Fire/Blizzard (Level 5)
8. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
9. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii 2 (Bandai Namco)
10. [NDS] Professor Layton and the Flute of the Malevolent Spirit (Level 5)
...:lol
boiled goose
good with gravy
Gravijah said:
holy shit
JordanLMiller
Member
cvxfreak said:
:lol
Well, Inside-Games.jp hasn't updated, yet. There's still a chance it could come out soon, but next week is looking more and more likely, especially with Famitsu not even updating with last week's data, yet. :lol Monday, maybe?