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[KuwabaraTheMan]

NSMB sales took me by surprise. I'm sure they surprised other people too. I recognise it's success, and Wii's performance for the short term will be based purely on NSMB legs. I can't see those legs lasting beyond Q1 though.

I could see it's legs lasting into April or so. The DS game was still selling 50,000 a week at that point in its life, so I can see Mario pushing hardware into late April or so.

Beyond that, who knows what Nintendo has lined up. Galaxy 2 should be ready to release by the time NSMB Wii's sales start falling off, and we really don't know what else Nintendo has up their sleeves. Keep in mind that we found out about New Super Mario Bros. Wii's existence less than six months before it came out. Nintendo could have another big title ready to come out in the first half of 2010 that we don't even know of yet.

 

[danielijohnson]

You don't think Microsoft tried hard?

They actually improved quite a bit YOY compared to 2008. The GO is the counterpart to the first handheld to ever succeed without the name Nintendo attached to it. It hasn't even sold half of it's first shipment yet.

I said it before, PSPGo is a sales failure of Virtual Boy proportions.

 

[duckroll]

The PSP Go is fucking pathetic, and it will be even more pathetic for it tomorrow, when KH BbS is not released on PSN. :lol

 

[justchris]

I think what schuelma is taking exception with is Jonnyram's extrapolation of a potential but expected drop in Wii sales going into Q1, out into PS3 beating Wii for the entirety of 2010.

While I agree that Wii's Q1 looks pretty bad, and PS3's Q1 looks pretty good, there is yet no basis to say that PS3 will beat out Wii for the full year.

 

[Jonnyram]

Didn't the PS3 also receive a substantial bump from F13? NSMBW will certainly have a much more prolonged effect on hardware than FF13. On the other hand the PS3 has the much strong line up in Q1. Things should be interesting.

Yeah but the PS3 also outsold FFXIII this week, so the hardware boost is obviously not just from one game.

 

[AranhaHunter]

So what's everyone's guess on KH BBS next week? I'm gonna say 500k.

The PSP Go is fucking pathetic, and it will be even more pathetic for it tomorrow, when KH BbS is not released on PSN. :lol

Is this true? If so lol, will it be released later on a la LBP or are they just giving PSP Go owners the finger?

 

[cvxfreak]

Yeah but the PS3 also outsold FFXIII this week, so the hardware boost is obviously not just from one game.

Used copies!!!

 

[charlequin]

The PS3 Slim launch is comparable to the PSP 2000 launch.

Not really. The PS3 Slim has had and will continue to have a significantly larger long-term benefit to the system (independent of software) than the 2000 did.

If the PS3 does outsell the Wii for much of 2010, it'll be a repeat scenario of 2008 with the DS and PSP. The PSP had outsold the DS for quite awhile and it wasn't until December when the DS came out ahead. I see the allure of the PS3 Slim wearing off in March or so, until the next major redesign or price drop. But unless DQX jumps ship (lol), the PS3 will never receive anything that will be bigger for it than FFXIII.

Why March, out of curiosity?

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Yeah but the PS3 also outsold FFXIII this week, so the hardware boost is obviously not just from one game.

You make it sound more impressive than it really is. The sales for the PS3 and Final Fantasy XIII were virtually identical, with the PS3 just selling about 3,000 more copies. Now, obviously the sales would be large this week, anyway. It's a big sales week, and there are people without interest in FF XIII who would buy the system.

 

[duckroll]

Is this true? If so lol, will it be released later on a la LBP or are they just giving PSP Go owners the finger?

Finger up the ass.

 

[Dalthien]

Yeah but the PS3 also outsold FFXIII this week, so the hardware boost is obviously not just from one game.

Just following your own logic - I think it is safe to say that the PS3 sold a lot of systems this week based on the holidays, just as did the Wii.

I mean, the PS3 did finish 4th place this week in hardware. So it's not like it had any kind of great week relative to the competition.

Just for the record, I could completely see the Wii suffer a similar drop in Q1 as it did in 2009 due to the weak software lineup. Or I could see it show some growth YOY over Q1 2009. I don't think anyone really knows how well NSMB will help to hold up the Wii, or for how long.

 

[Nirolak]

If the PS3 does outsell the Wii for much of 2010, it'll be a repeat scenario of 2008 with the DS and PSP. The PSP had outsold the DS for quite awhile and it wasn't until December when the DS came out ahead. I see the allure of the PS3 Slim wearing off in March or so, until the next major redesign or price drop. But unless DQX jumps ship (lol), the PS3 will never receive anything that will be bigger for it than FFXIII.

March seems like a bit of an odd choice, since on the 18th Yakuza 4 is coming out and on the 25th, GT5, Hokuto Musou, and GoW3 Trilogy seem to be out.

It seems that due to those games, it'd be hard to tell if the PS3 Slim's appeal ran out then.

 

[duckroll]

March seems like a bit of an odd choice, since on the 18th Yakuza 4 is coming out and on the 25th, GT5, Hokuto Musou, and GoW3 Trilogy seem to be out.

It seems that due to those games, it'd be hard to tell if the PS3 Slim's appeal ran out then.

I don't think anyone who has not already played RgG3, will bother buying RgG4. So based on that, it is unlikely that it will have any real impact on hardware. GoW = lol. GT5 and Hokuto should have some sort of impact in terms of keeping the hardware relevant to people who might not have the system yet though.

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

So what's everyone's guess on KH BBS next week? I'm gonna say 500k.

Wada would be dancing in the streets if that happened. That would be a bigger first week than any game in the series except for Kingdom Hearts II. Given that it's a non-numbered entry on a platform with a smaller install base, I doubt it reaches that level of sales. Yeah, it's treated as a more important game than Chain of Memories or 358/2 Days, but it still isn't a numbered entry.

Hell, that would be bigger than Crisis Core's first week sales.

I think somewhere between 350-400,000 is pretty likely.

 

[Nirolak]

I don't think anyone who has not already played RgG3, will bother buying RgG4. So based on that, it is unlikely that it will have any real impact on hardware. GoW = lol. GT5 and Hokuto should have some sort of impact in terms of keeping the hardware relevant to people who might not have the system yet though.

I feel GoW could have a very small but niche impact on the system. Maybe up to a 5k boost, not that we could ever tell with the other two titles.

 

[Regulus Tera]

I came across this video (login required, of course) when I was looking at gameplay videos of Segagaga in niconico. (I think I clicked on the "history of game" tag) It was basically a video showing market shares of the top 10 game publishers in Japan from 1996 to 2009.

Okay, that's one of the best video game mixes I've ever heard.

 

[Chris1964]

The battle for the winner of 2010 between Wii and PS3 already began? Wait for next week when we will get a first idea of how long NSMBW alone can carry Wii in Q1. If Iwata words hold some truth Wii will have strong first party support for Q2, Q3, Q4 unlike last year when that was the case only for Q3 and Q4.

This week was slower from the previous for software.

Week 52 2009: 3.267.504
Week 01 2010: 2.423.932

 

[Yoshi]

Well that's interesting -- Wii's last 3 months of the year (since PS3 slim came out) are up 47.2% from last year, thanks basically to NSMB Wii, but PS3 slim still managed to outsell it over that period. 2010 is going to be very interesting. Wii sales dropped a LOT in 2009, despite the surge in the last quarter. Outside of the holiday season, Wii sales could be very miserable. It depends purely on NSMB's legs, I think.

I think everyone would agree, that Wii sales in Q1 will depend on NSMBWiis legs, but this week was hampered by supply issues for both, NSMBW and Wii-Remotes. As there are still a lot of people who already own a Wii and still bought NSMBW, many potential buyers just couldn't get their Wii with the bewished game and a Wii-Remote. So I'm of the opinion, that a huge part of the drop of the hardware sales of Wii (which is proportionate to the drop in sales for NSMBW) is because of the lack of availability of Mario. Mario will be more readily available in the next months, Nintendo has proven in the past that they can profit off really successful titles for a long time so even still I think Nintendo is in a good position startung into 2010, although they might have lost a few sales this week for eternity, that doesn't mean Mario and therefore Wii will lose it's steam completely in the following weeks. PS3 also looks really strong and holiday sales are a great accomplishment by both, Sony and SQX, but I can not see how you can project this week onto the coming year in such a way. There are way too many variables to consider, way too many things, that went all wrong for Nintendo this week, too.

 

[Osuwari]

NSMBWii is guaranteed to have better legs than ACCF/Wii Music at least. january is going to be better than last year's january at least. february could be also better since it was abysmal last year.

 

[mutsu]

The Wii needs games. Nintendo needs to announce games. Badly.

 

[pickwick]

The PSP Go is fucking pathetic, and it will be even more pathetic for it tomorrow, when KH BbS is not released on PSN. :lol

Really ????? I know understand why the pspGo sold so badly...

 

[Knocks]

Wii & DS million sellers as of Jan 3, 2010

Wii

Title / Launched / Sold / Updated

New Super Mario Bros. Wii / Dec 03, 2009 / 2,708,000 / Jan 03, 2010
Wii Fit Plus / Oct 01, 2009 / 1,421,000 / Jan 03, 2010
Wii Sports Resort / Jun 25, 2009 / 1,636,000 / Jan 03, 2010
Doubutsu no Mori: Machi e Ikou yo / Nov 20, 2008 / 1.166.901 / Jul 19, 2009
Mario Kart Wii / Apr 10, 2008 / 2,449,762 / Dec 27, 2009
Dairantou Smash Brothers X / Jan 31, 2008 / 1,747,113 / Jan 01, 2009
Wii Fit / Dec 01, 2007 / 3,536,000 / Sep 27, 2009
Mario Party 8 / Jul 26, 2007 / 1,310,766 / Jan 01, 2009
Hajimete no Wii / Dec 02, 2006 / 2,593,294 / Jan 01, 2009
Wii Sports / Dec 02, 2006 / 3,306,470 / Dec 31, 2008


DS

Title / Launched / Sold / Updated

Pokemon Heart Gold / Sep 12, 2009 / 1,593,466 / Dec 20, 2009
Pokemon Soul Silver / Sep 12, 2009 / 1,708,407 / Dec 20, 2009
Draqon Quest IX / Jul 11, 2009 / 4,089,136 / Dec 20, 2009
Tomodachi Collection / Jun 18, 2009 / 2,502,000 / Jan 03, 2010
Kirby Super Star Ultra / Nov 06, 2008 / 1.127.320 / Jul 19, 2009
Pokemon Platinum / Sep 13, 2008 / 2,536,712 / Dec 20, 2009
Rhythm Tengoku Gold / Jul 31, 2008 / 1,763,270 / Dec 20, 2009
Dragon Quest V / Jul 17, 2008 / 1,176,082 / Jan 01, 2009
Dragon Quest IV / Nov 22, 2007 / 1,214,610 / Jan 01, 2009
Mario Party DS / Nov 08, 2007 / 1,832,265 / Jan 01, 2009
Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker / Dec 26, 2006 / 1.317.038 / Apr 08, 2007
Oshare Majo Love & Berry: DS Collection / Nov 22, 2006 / 1.039.669 / Dec 31, 2007
Common Sense Training / Oct 26, 2006 / 1.185.307 / Feb 04, 2007
Pokemon Diamond / Sep 28, 2006 / 2.502.801 / Jan 14, 2007
Pokemon Pearl / Sep 28, 2006 / 2.054.443 / Jan 07, 2007
New Super Mario Bros / May 25, 2006 / 5,659,586 / Dec 27, 2009
Tetris DS / Apr 27, 2006 / 1.011.285 / Jan 07, 2007
Tamagotchi Connection / Jan 31, 2006 / 1.110.046 / Oct 01, 2006
English Training / Jan 26, 2006 / 1,408,24 / Nov 12, 2006
Brain Training 2 / Dec 29, 2005 / 4,967,131 / Jan 01, 2009
Mario Kart DS / Dec 08, 2005 / 3,508,000 / Sep 27, 2009
Animal Crossing: Wild World / Nov 23, 2005 / 5,074,000 / Sep 27, 2009
Big Brain Academy / Jun 30, 2005 / 1,299,188 / Nov 12, 2006
Brain Training / May 19, 2005 / 3,750,890 / Jan 01, 2009
Nintendogs Chihuahua\Dachshund\Shiba / Apr 21, 2005 / 1,850,984 / Jan 01, 2009
WarioWare: Touched! / Dec 02, 2004 / 1,013,297 / Nov 12, 2006
Super Mario 64 DS / Dec 02, 2004 / 1.162.478 / Jul 12, 2009

 

[LINK.AGE76]

When is the next retailer meeting where they announce dates for games?

 

[LINK.AGE76]

Wii & DS million sellers as of Jan 3, 2010

Wii million sellers


Title / Launched / Sold / Updated

New Super Mario Bros. Wii / Dec 03, 2009 / 2,708,000 / Jan 03, 2010
Wii Fit Plus / Oct 01, 2009 / 1,421,000 / Jan 03, 2010
Wii Sports Resort / Jun 25, 2009 / 1,636,000 / Jan 03, 2010
Doubutsu no Mori: Machi e Ikou yo / Nov 20, 2008 / 1.166.901 / Jul 19, 2009
Mario Kart Wii / Apr 10, 2008 / 2,449,762 / Dec 27, 2009
Dairantou Smash Brothers X / Jan 31, 2008 / 1,747,113 / Jan 01, 2009
Wii Fit / Dec 01, 2007 / 3,536,000 / Sep 27, 2009
Mario Party 8 / Jul 26, 2007 / 1,310,766 / Jan 01, 2009
Hajimete no Wii / Dec 02, 2006 / 2,593,294 / Jan 01, 2009
Wii Sports / Dec 02, 2006 / 3,306,470 / Dec 31, 2008



DS million sellers


Title Launched Sold Updated

Pokemon Heart Gold Sep 12, 2009 1,593,466 Dec 20, 2009
Pokemon Soul Silver Sep 12, 2009 1,708,407 Dec 20, 2009
Draqon Quest IX Jul 11, 2009 4,089,136 Dec 20, 2009
Tomodachi Collection Jun 18, 2009 2,502,000 Jan 03, 2010
Kirby Super Star Ultra Nov 06, 2008 1.127.320 Jul 19, 2009
Pokemon Platinum Sep 13, 2008 2,536,712 Dec 20, 2009
Rhythm Tengoku Gold Jul 31, 2008 1,763,270 Dec 20, 2009
Dragon Quest V Jul 17, 2008 1,176,082 Jan 01, 2009
Dragon Quest IV Nov 22, 2007 1,214,610 Jan 01, 2009
Mario Party DS Nov 08, 2007 1,832,265 Jan 01, 2009
Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker Dec 26, 2006 1.317.038 Apr 08, 2007
Common Sense Training Oct 26, 2006 1.185.307 Feb 04, 2007
Pokemon Diamond Sep 28, 2006 2.502.801 Jan 14, 2007
Pokemon Pearl Sep 28, 2006 2.054.443 Jan 07, 2007
New Super Mario Bros May 25, 2006 5,659,586 Dec 27, 2009
Tetris DS Apr 27, 2006 1.011.285 Jan 07, 2007
Tamagotchi Connection Jan 31, 2006 1.110.046 Oct 01, 2006
English Training Jan 26, 2006 1,408,243 Nov 12, 2006
Brain Training 2 Dec 29, 2005 4,967,131 Jan 01, 2009
Mario Kart DS Dec 08, 2005 3,508,000 Sep 27, 2009
Animal Crossing: Wild World Nov 23, 2005 5,074,000 Sep 27, 2009
Big Brain Academy Jun 30, 2005 1,299,188 Nov 12, 2006
Brain Training May 19, 2005 3,750,890 Jan 01, 2009
Nintendogs Chihuahua\Dachshund\Shiba Apr 21, 2005 1,850,984 Jan 01, 2009
WarioWare: Touched! Dec 02, 2004 1,013,297 Nov 12, 2006

Shouldn't there be 29 DS million sellers?

 

[Chris1964]

Wii & DS million sellers as of Jan 3, 2010

These numbers aren't from Media Create or Famitsu. Where did you find them?

EDIT: Some of them are Famitsu, some Media Create but they are outdated.

 

[Knocks]

These numbers aren't from Media Create or Famitsu. Where did you find them?

They're either from Media Create, Famitsu, or NCL's quarterly reports, whoever reported the highest number for a particular title.

Shouldn't there be 29 DS million sellers?

This doesn't include the Pokemon titles for which I couldn't find individual SKU sales.

 

[LINK.AGE76]

They're either from Media Create, Famitsu, or NCL's quarterly reports, whoever reported the highest number for a particular title.




This doesn't include the Pokemon titles for which I couldn't find individual SKU sales.

I don't see the Sega game that crossed a million or M64DS!

 

[Chris1964]

They're either from Media Create, Famitsu, or NCL's quarterly reports, whoever reported the highest number for a particular title.

It's better not to mix trackers. For some of them there are more up to date numbers.

 

[Knocks]

I don't see the Sega game that crossed a million or M64DS!

Because I never saw official life-to-date numbers from Famitsu or Media Create that confirmed Mario 64 DS as a million seller. If you have a link to the relevant top 30, I'll be glad to add it.

 

[Nirolak]

Out of curiosity, what upcoming titles are announced for the Wii and PS3 that could drive sales for at least 3 to 4 weeks?

Dragon Quest X seems like a good candidate, but that's most likely quite a while away.

 

[Chris1964]

Because I never saw official life-to-date numbers from Famitsu or Media Create that confirmed Mario 64 DS as a million seller. If you have a link to the relevant top 30, I'll be glad to add it.

Media Create
[NDS] Oshare Majo Love & Berry: DS Collection (Sega) - 421.227 / 1.027.989
from Media Create 2008 top 500

Famitsu
[NDS] Oshare Majo Love & Berry: DS Collection (Sega) - 425.380 / 1.039.669
from Famitsu 2007 top 500

 

[Chris1964]

Media Create
[NDS] Super Mario 64 DS (Nintendo) - 151.373 / 1.061.393
from Media Create 2008 top 500

Famitsu
[NDS] Super Mario 64 DS (Nintendo) - 120.062 / 1.162.478
from DS top 20 until 12/07/09

It seems you have access only to famitsu top 30. Every Media Create and Famitsu yearly report is posted at gaf (translated) and geimin

 

[cvxfreak]

NSMB Wii is back in stock.

Not for long, though. The 1-per-person rule is still being implemented.

 

[Chris1964]

NSMB Wii is back in stock.

Not for long, though. The 1-per-person rule is still being implemented.

Did you take any pics? Big shipment or not?

 

[Knocks]

Media Create
[NDS] Super Mario 64 DS (Nintendo) - 151.373 / 1.061.393
from Media Create 2008 top 500

Famitsu
[NDS] Super Mario 64 DS (Nintendo) - 120.062 / 1.162.478
from DS top 20 until 12/07/09

It seems you have access only to famitsu top 30. Every Media Create and Famitsu yearly report is posted at gaf (translated) and geimin

Thank you (and yay for Mario). Added the 2 titles.

 

[Chris1964]

Thank you (and yay for Mario). Added the 2 titles.

Visit this site for Famitsu, but it doesn't say when the update took place
http://www.japan-gamecharts.com/
and
http://geimin.net
for yearly reports

With dates I go DD/MM/YY
12/07/09 means July 12 2009

 

[cvxfreak]

Did you take any pics? Big shipment or not?

Unless they have more in storage (and I have very few reasons to believe they do), then the shipment remaining as of 18:15 is tiny compared to demand. They had, like, 1/4th the stack I saw during the big December weeks remaining.

I took a picture; will upload later.

 

[Knocks]

Visit this site for Famitsu, but it doesn't say when the update took place
http://www.japan-gamecharts.com/
and
http://geimin.net
for yearly reports

With dates I go DD/MM/YY
12/07/09 means July 12 2009

No fun without the dates, but I'll take a look at the annual ones.

 

[GaimeGuy]

i think the resurgence of the PS3 has everything to do with developers continuing to throw the majority of their console support to Sony in japan.

 

[Chris1964]

i think the resurgence of the PS3 has everything to do with developers continuing to throw the majority of their console support to Sony in japan.

I don't see what was different last year for PS3 support comparing to 2008 and 2007.
The resurgence of the PS3 has everything to do with the price cut and the redesign.

 

[gerg]

When is the next retailer meeting where they announce dates for games?

Probably the fiscal year report in April.

I would suspect that they might have something earlier than that, though, perhaps in mid-February or early March, depending on how early SMG 2 is being released.

Wii Relax is most likely going to see release in July, so that will be showcased at E3; expect a big presence at E3 this year from Nintendo.

 

[Chris1964]

Probably the fiscal year report in April.

I would suspect that they might have something earlier than that, though, perhaps in mid-February or early March, depending on how early SMG 2 is being released.

Retailer meetings are every 2-3 months. There should be one this month.

 

[LINK.AGE76]

Retailer meetings are every 2-3 months. There should be one this month.

If SMG2 releases in the next 3 months then I think a date should be announced in the retailer meeting if there is one this month.

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

P.S I'd wager a bet I got the 5 week hardware totals a lot closer than almost anyone that predicted.

I had forgotten about it. No need to use almost btw.

Results  	Overall  	 	PS3 Specific  	 			Week 1  Week 2  Week 3  Week 4  Week 5  Total  	
1 	173193 	schuelma 	1 	23125 	jj984jj 		PS3 	57782 	75086 	237086 	110519 	114368 	594841 	
2 	258193 	Chris1964 	2 	39841 	schuelma 		WII 	106555 	135898 	191915 	215129 	163855 	813352 	
3 	280610 	Spiegel 	3 	40480 	Spiegel 	
4 	283193 	donny2112 	4 	44841 	ilbambino 	
5 	287910 	jj984jj 	5 	54841 	onken 	
6 	308193 	Road 	
7 	338055 	Orgen 			WII Specific 	
8 	338193 	onken 		1 	133352 	schuelma 	
9 	408193 	ilbambino 	2 	163352 	Chris1964 	
10 	419893 	kswiston 	3 	163352 	donny2112	
11 	430189 	kay 		4 	213352 	Road 	
12 	447749 	Stopsign 	5 	240130 	Spiegel 	
13 	458193 	u_neek 	
14 	508193 	Kurosaki Ichigo 	

11/30-01/03  	Sales  	Spieg  	Stops  	jj984  	kswis  	Orgen  	uneek  	kay  	schue  	onken  	Chris  	Kuro  	donny  	ilbam  	Road
PS3 Total 	594841 	635321 	440321 	571716 	464800 	512826 	500000 	466891 	555000 	540000 	500000 	425000 	475000 	550000 	500000
WII Total 	813352 	573222 	520123 	548567 	523500 	557312 	450000 	511113 	680000 	530000 	650000 	475000 	650000 	450000 	600000

Difference 	0 	280610 	447749 	287910 	419893 	338055 	458193 	430189 	173193 	338193 	258193 	508193 	283193 	408193 	308193
Difference PS3 	0 	40480 	154520 	23125 	130041 	82015 	94841 	127950 	39841 	54841 	94841 	169841 	119841 	44841 	94841
Difference WII 	0 	240130 	293229 	264785 	289852 	256040 	363352 	302239 	133352 	283352 	163352 	338352 	163352 	363352 	213352

PS3 Total 	0 	40480 	-154520 -23125 	-130041 -82015 	-94841 	-127950 -39841 	-54841 	-94841 	-169841 -119841 -44841 	-94841
WII Total 	0 	-240130 -293229 -264785 -289852 -256040 -363352 -302239 -133352 -283352 -163352 -338352 -163352 -363352 -213352

Everyone undershot the Wii.
Everyone but Spiegel undershot the PS3.

Past Predictions Results:
12/07-12/13 Predictions Results
11/30-12/06 Predictions Results
11/23-11/29 Predictions Results

 

[GrotesqueBeauty]

I think the notion that Nintendo could bust out SMG2, Other M, and Zelda Wii in rapid succession leaves a lot of people incredulous, but I don't think it's entirely inconceivable. This year could go either way depending on what their release schedule looks like past Q1. They really are a wild card this generation.

 

[spwolf]

I don't see what was different last year for PS3 support comparing to 2008 and 2007.
The resurgence of the PS3 has everything to do with the price cut and the redesign.

and having decent titles in relativly short time period...

game companies are reactionists too, so you will see uptick in PS3 development maybe in a year or so... I dont think much will change, as they already did not know what to do with Wii, so this uptick in PS3 sales will be perceived as god send to them - probably confirmation that they did good to change to PS3 development...

 

[Chris1964]

and having decent titles in relativly short time period...

game companies are reactionists too, so you will see uptick in PS3 development maybe in a year or so... I dont think much will change, as they already did not know what to do with Wii, so this uptick in PS3 sales will be perceived as god send to them - probably confirmation that they did good to change to PS3 development...

They changed to PS3 from what? Wii?

 

[spwolf]

They changed to PS3 from what? Wii?

sure... just because they had what you consider as bad games for Wii, does not mean that they did not have them... Althought i dont think Nintendo is as static as we perceive it... I am sure they are working on their dev relationships as hard as anyone these days.

 

[Chris1964]

sure... just because they had what you consider as bad games for Wii, does not mean that they did not have them...

Completely disagree. Why don't you post some examples of even these bad games that moved from Wii to PS3?

 

[Brofist]

I don't see what was different last year for PS3 support comparing to 2008 and 2007.
The resurgence of the PS3 has everything to do with the price cut and the redesign.

I think the difference is the titles are actually hitting the shelves now compared to in 2007/08.

Of course the price drop and redesign helped.