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[Speevy]

gaming is going downhill for people wanting the most value for their money?

No, gaming is going downhill for people turning down quality gaming because of trivial and aesthetic aspects.

It seems like someone could release a slightly worse game, but in HD with trophies and high quality sound, and Private Hoffman would be all over it.

Does that make sense?

 

[Private Hoffman]

No, gaming is going downhill for people turning down quality gaming because of trivial and aesthetic aspects.

It seems like someone could release a slightly worse game, but in HD with trophies and high quality sound, and Private Hoffman would be all over it.

Does that make sense?

I just don't see the excuse for why the production values of MM9 didn't see a similar revamp that BC:R received for the same price.

Part of the appeal of downloadable titles is that they run in 1080p and look razor sharp. It's hard for me to go back and play anything in SD resolution, especially 4:3.

I'm not a hardcore mega man fan like some people apparently are....but, I never even played Bionic Commando before Rearmed, and I certainly loved it. Probably wouldn't have purchased BC without the updated graphics and sound. Aesthetics aren't trivial.

 

[RevenantKioku]

I just don't see the excuse for why the production values of MM9 didn't see a similar revamp that BC:R received for the same price.

Part of the appeal of downloadable titles is that they run in 1080p and look razor sharp. It's hard for me to go back and play anything in SD resolution, especially 4:3.

This is because you put the unimportant above the important. To have the audacity to even consider something as trivial and useless as trophies, gamer scores or HD graphics a necessity for gaming means you are stuck in a delusional world.

And BCR? You are joking if you think BCR looks anything as good as MM9 does. MM9 has soul. BCR looks like cheap shit.

 

[Raziel]

No, gaming is going downhill for people turning down quality gaming because of trivial and aesthetic aspects.

It seems like someone could release a slightly worse game, but in HD with trophies and high quality sound, and Private Hoffman would be all over it.

Does that make sense?

yes and no. i understand what you're saying, but the two games he mentioned - BCR and Wipeout HD - do offer more value than MM9. they just happen to look better too.

i don't think introducing DLC to an 8-bit NES-style game is on the road to gaming's salvation either.

 

[goldenpp72]

This is because you put the unimportant above the important. To have the audacity to even consider something as trivial and useless as trophies, gamer scores or HD graphics a necessity for gaming means you are stuck in a delusional world.

get over yourself, people tend to like things that they like, ya know? Standards are there for a reason, however, people using bionic commando as an example are being a bit unfair, MM9 is an original game, BC was a remake that will also tie in to a next gen sequel market wise, MM9 is on its own.

for 360 it will be nice to prove what i've done

 

[Speevy]

Part of the appeal of downloadable titles is that they run in 1080p and look razor sharp. It's hard for me to go back and play anything in SD resolution, especially 4:3.
.

The appeal of downloadable games is that they're cheap and easy to get into. The 1080p thing is just a consequence of the hardware, and many of the games you think you're playing in full 1080p...well, just take a trip over to Beyond3d.

Anyway, games are games. And I can sympathize with people who can't play games because of ugly graphics. Playing many PS1 games today, I see the limitations and age of that hardware. But HD? The lack of it shouldn't keep you from playing anything.

 

[Dark Octave]

yeah, I hit left and it goes left, right is right, up is up, down im not sure, but damn that dpad.

You must be cross eyed then.

But seriously, I have an Elite as well and while it's a LITTLE better, it's still 80% jacked up. Press down on the D-pad and with your thumb only on the down portion, move it left and right. Your Bionic Commando will move left and right in a crouching position. This is not a desirable way to play a game.

With the PS3 D-pad you actually have to place your thumb on the left or right portions of the D-pad for him to face the other direction while crouching.

Then there's Street Fighter II...

All I'm going to say is, luckily the window was closed, because the controller actually bounced about two and a half, maybe three feet in the air and would have been smashed all over the sidewalk.

 

[Private Hoffman]

This is because you put the unimportant above the important. To have the audacity to even consider something as trivial and useless as trophies, gamer scores or HD graphics a necessity for gaming means you are stuck in a delusional world.

And BCR? You are joking if you think BCR looks anything as good as MM9 does. MM9 has soul. BCR looks like cheap shit.

I disagree about BCR. BCR had great graphics, great artwork for the bosses, and a tremendous, high quality soundtrack that still retained the retro feel.

Given your remarks about "gaming going downhill" and "HD graphics, trophies, gamer scores etc. not being important" leads me to believe that you're stuck in nostalgia land. Well, I'm not. I happen to like the progression that these next gen consoles have afforded.

Sorry, it's not that these features are a neccessity...but when 10 and 20 dollar games are offering much more, IMHO....they are. Like I said, I'd be willing to forgive such shortcomings if the price was more in line with the production values (i.e., a pricing of about $5 seems about right).

 

[RevenantKioku]

get over yourself, people tend to like things that they like, ya know? Standards are there for a reason, however, people using bionic commando as an example are being a bit unfair, MM9 is an original game, BC was a remake that will also tie in to a next gen sequel market wise, MM9 is on its own.

for 360 it will be nice to prove what i've done

I am just trying to open closed minds. My goal is a better world. Do not get in my way.

I disagree about BCR. BCR had great graphics, great artwork for the bosses, and a tremendous, high quality soundtrack that still retained the retro feel.

Given your remarks about "gaming going downhill" and "HD graphics, trophies, gamer scores etc. not being important" leads me to believe that you're stuck in nostalgia land. Well, I'm not. I happen to like the progression that these next gen consoles have afforded.

Sorry, it's not that these features are a neccessity...but when 10 and 20 dollar games are offering much more, IMHO....they are. Like I said, I'd be willing to forgive such shortcomings if the price was more in line with the production values (i.e., a pricing of about $5 seems about right).

More what? It's a fully featured game, one which would cost $50 or so if released in the time of that style, but using today's technologies and released at $10. There are worse looking games released for the Wii/PS3/360 that cost more than MM9 but just because they use 3D graphics and not an older style they give more for their value?

I'm all for progression, but things like HD graphics, trophies/gamer scores cannot make a game fundamentally better. They are most of the time addons. Without them the game's quality basically remains the same. I am all for the progression of games, and if MM9 manages to work the classic MM gameplay well enough and smoother than some of the previous entries, that is a success.

 

[tedtropy]

Why I gotta wait so long?! Oh well, sweet Duke will be there to sooth my angst.

 

[Speevy]

I disagree about BCR. BCR had great graphics, great artwork for the bosses, and a tremendous, high quality soundtrack that still retained the retro feel.

Given your remarks about "gaming going downhill" and "HD graphics, trophies, gamer scores etc. not being important" leads me to believe that you're stuck in nostalgia land. Well, I'm not. I happen to like the progression that these next gen consoles have afforded.

Sorry, it's not that these features are a neccessity...but when 10 and 20 dollar games are offering much more, IMHO....they are. Like I said, I'd be willing to forgive such shortcomings if the price was more in line with the production values (i.e., a pricing of about $5 seems about right).

$10 games aren't offering much more. Wipeout HD is. The average $10 downloadable game looks and plays like it was ported from Flash.

But it's HD!

 

[B-Rad Lascelle]

I like the fact that Mega Man 9 goes to the nostalgia well with old-school 8-bit NES-style graphics. That was a bold and ambitious call and I applaud Capcom for it.

However, what I don't like is the fact that MM9's art assets are ASSTASTIC by late-day NES standards. Screw MM6... this game doesn't even come close to looking as good as Mega Man 3. Should we be applauding the art direction of a game that would have been rightfully TRASHED had it been released as MM7 for the NES in late 1994?

Going old-school for old-school sake does not give Capcom a blank check to dole out the ugliest looking Mega Man game since Mega Man 1.

 

[flintstryker]

$10 bucks for no HD graphics, no HQ audio, no trophies.....no buy. Bionic Commando did it right. MM9 is a step in the wrong direction.

Sorry, but WipeoutHD will be getting my money next week.

Now this is all well and good but i am pretty sure that your post wasn't in the least bit necessary.

You are better suited posting in the Wipeout thread since that's the game you're clearly interested in.

 

[Dark Octave]

I am just trying to open closed minds. My goal is a better world. Do not get in my way.

More what? It's a fully featured game, one which would cost $50 or so if released in the time of that style, but using today's technologies and released at $10. There are worse looking games released for the Wii/PS3/360 that cost more than MM9 but just because they use 3D graphics and not an older style they give more for their value?

I'm all for progression, but things like HD graphics, trophies/gamer scores cannot make a game fundamentally better. They are most of the time addons. Without them the game's quality basically remains the same. I am all for the progression of games, and if MM9 manages to work the classic MM gameplay well enough and smoother than some of the previous entries, that is a success.

Is that what these little knuckle heads are trying to say? Just because a game is 2D and hand drawn, it's not worth as much as a 3D game made with polygons??

I had as much fun with Castle Crashers as I did with Bionic Commando: Rearmed and I had as much fun with BC:R as I did with Gears of War, or Halo.

$10 is too cheap if you ask me.

 

[flintstryker]

I like the fact that Mega Man 9 goes to the nostalgia well with old-school 8-bit NES-style graphics. That was a bold and ambitious call and I applaud Capcom for it.

However, what I don't like is the fact that MM9's art assets are ASSTASTIC by late-day NES standards. Screw MM6... this game doesn't even come close to looking as good as Mega Man 3. Should we be applauding the art direction of a game that would have been rightfully TRASHED had it been released as MM7 for the NES in late 1994?

Going old-school for old-school sake does not give Capcom a blank check to dole out the ugliest looking Mega Man game since Mega Man 1.

by whom? back in the days games i hardly cared about how the games i played look in comparison to each. Hell i still don't care.

 

[Infernal Monkey]

$10 bucks for no HD graphics, no HQ audio, no trophies.....no buy.

Yeah! Fuck gameplay!

 

[Lindsay]

My only problems with this game is that theres no physical retail release and that just a few years ago they released the MM:AC for only $30. Otherwise I'd totally be buying this ~_~;

 

[ampere]

I'm so buying this sweet piece of new-retro, but I'll probably never be able to get more than 2 or 3 of those insane hard achievements.

$10 is too cheap if you ask me.

Don't complain about the price being too low...
They might bump it up :lol

 

[Rpgmonkey]

Sounds good enough for $10.

I'll download it.

 

[crops55]

To Private Hoffman

Without MM9, all the money you probably sunk into your next generation speaker system was a complete waste; because they will never produce anything that sounds this good-- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsgrSziLmyU

You're clearly not Capcom's target audience, and thats fine. But with all due respect, no matter how good of point you think you have, and regardless of the fact that this is indeed a forum, kindly take your technologically spoiled argument outta here so everyone else can enjoy the anticipation of this game's release.

 

[Raw64life]

Every time someone complains about lack of trophies/achievements in a game I die a little inside and have to resist yelling at people over the internet about how dumb it is to actually care about these things.

 

[HUELEN10]

To Private Hoffman

Without MM9, all the money you probably sunk into your next generation speaker system was a complete waste; because they will never produce anything that sounds this good-- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsgrSziLmyU

You're clearly not Capcom's target audience, and thats fine. But with all due respect, no matter how good of point you think you have, and regardless of the fact that this is indeed a forum, kindly take your technologically spoiled argument outta here so everyone else can enjoy the anticipation of this game's release.

I couldn't have said that better myself. You seem like the type of guy who is gonna go places here.

 

[gwiz210]

I'm going to have to come up with 20 bucks for a Wii Points Card, I need this so bad.

 

[Private Hoffman]

To Private Hoffman

Without MM9, all the money you probably sunk into your next generation speaker system was a complete waste; because they will never produce anything that sounds this good-- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsgrSziLmyU

You're clearly not Capcom's target audience, and thats fine. But with all due respect, no matter how good of point you think you have, and regardless of the fact that this is indeed a forum, kindly take your technologically spoiled argument outta here so everyone else can enjoy the anticipation of this game's release.

Hm. I dunno. Maybe you guys are right.

There's some charm in retaining everything from the 8bit days. Maybe there is a market for that, just for the nostalgia alone. Another part of me wishes it would be sort of a next-gen 2D remake though. I absolutely adore the soundtracks of 8 bit NES games...they had to rely on melody, and honestly, that's what makes them so memorable and catchy. I love it.

It's not everyday you get what essentially is a brand new NES game...shit, that hasn't happened in what, nearly 20 years? :lol

I'll try out the demo, and if I like it (really never got into Mega Man back on the NES days, but I'm more of a hardcore gamer now than I used to be back then), then I'll give it a buy.

 

[permutated]

No, gaming is going downhill for people turning down quality gaming because of trivial and aesthetic aspects.

It seems like someone could release a slightly worse game, but in HD with trophies and high quality sound, and Private Hoffman would be all over it.

Does that make sense?

I don't think Hoffman is like that, but I know far too many people who fit that description.

"NO TROPHIES, NO BUY!"

Who cares, honestly. When did gamers stop caring about games?

 

[permutated]

People annoying as this should be banned from life: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOYNK6Aqv7s&feature=related

 

[crops55]

People annoying as this should be banned from life: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOYNK6Aqv7s&feature=related

I feel sorry for his dick.


To Hoffman:
I think you need to at least check it out if there is any lingering interest whatsoever. At just 10$, even when you consider everything MM9 doesn't have I think that is still a bargain price. To most mega man fans, its quite apparent that there was alot of heart and hard work that went into this project and I would gladly shell out double or triple that price for this game.

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

Hm. I dunno. Maybe you guys are right.

There's some charm in retaining everything from the 8bit days. Maybe there is a market for that, just for the nostalgia alone. Another part of me wishes it would be sort of a next-gen 2D remake though. I absolutely adore the soundtracks of 8 bit NES games...they had to rely on melody, and honestly, that's what makes them so memorable and catchy. I love it.

It's not everyday you get what essentially is a brand new NES game...shit, that hasn't happened in what, nearly 20 years? :lol

I'll try out the demo, and if I like it (really never got into Mega Man back on the NES days, but I'm more of a hardcore gamer now than I used to be back then), then I'll give it a buy.

Did you check out Mega Man Powered Up for PSP? By what you've said, I think you'd really like it.

 

[grandjedi6]

Dammit, I go back to campus the day before. No Mega Man 9 until Thanksgiving I suppose :/

 

[Ike]

PSN version get

 

[SovanJedi]

This and Wario Land: Shake It! come out here just the day after my birthday. Joy!

Now if only I could track down a copy of Nanostray 2 that would make it a joyous occasion.

 

[yurinka]

Did you check out Mega Man Powered Up for PSP? By what you've said, I think you'd really like it.

Best Mega Man game since the SNES! Level editor (with uploadable and downloadable user generated levels), tons of playable characters, great OST...
The only think I didn't liked was the too kiddy character design.

Thursdayton : Wipeout HD and Mega Man 9! Yeah!

Hm. I dunno. Maybe you guys are right.

There's some charm in retaining everything from the 8bit days. Maybe there is a market for that, just for the nostalgia alone. Another part of me wishes it would be sort of a next-gen 2D remake though. I absolutely adore the soundtracks of 8 bit NES games...they had to rely on melody, and honestly, that's what makes them so memorable and catchy. I love it.

It's not everyday you get what essentially is a brand new NES game...shit, that hasn't happened in what, nearly 20 years? :lol

I'll try out the demo, and if I like it (really never got into Mega Man back on the NES days, but I'm more of a hardcore gamer now than I used to be back then), then I'll give it a buy.

BTW Looks like all Mega Man 9 versions will have on-line leaderboards and "Challenges", some kind of custom Archievements / Trophies.

So even if we don't have trophies in PS3, maybe we would check on-line if our friends archieved these "custom trophies", like in DMC4.

 

[Ranger X]

IGN commented on some sort of filter being present in the PS3/360 versions. I've seen enough hell spawn screenshots of 2D visuals destroyed by vomit filters in the past to know that Wiiware is the only place I'd buy this game. Hopefully it won't be too bad, Metal Slug 3 still gives me nightmares.

Yeah i guess i will clean the fridge. I normally hate software filters and that was my fear right there.

 

[sykoex]

PSN: do the hits ever stop?

 

[SpokkX]

PSN version because of sucky 360 dpad for me... sad because I like achievments

 

[Visualante]

PSN version because of sucky 360 dpad for me... sad because I like achievments

Apparently it has achievements, just not trophy support because that's not mandatory until sometime next year.

 

[jibblypop]

I'll be getting the Wii version due to hating the 360 d-pad.
Screw the achievements. They sound impossible to get anyways.

 

[Easy_D]

I thought every version had "achievements". At least an in-game set of challenges you can complete for bonuses.

Or were I just high when I thought of that? :

 

[duckroll]

http://asia.playstation.com/eng_sg/index.php?q=node/1887

MM9 will be up on the Asian PSN this Thursday it seems. If the date holds true then I'll get it before the US release! Yay!