CadetMahoney
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Getting superior 360 version based on this performance, plus less tearing, not exactly minor either.
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Getting superior 360 version based on this performance, plus less tearing, not exactly minor either.
Not true watch the comparison video. The 360 framerate advantage is clearly noticeable in the early segments. Just watch the bit with the Metal Gear fight for the easiest to see example.
Hell just watch the green/blue line graph.
Snapshot King
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Here's the exact quote about the FPS in battle, as opposed to scripted stuff.
"However, similar results during open battle affect the run of play more drastically. In comparing eight different combat scenarios, we see the frame-rate wavering between 40 and 60FPS marks on both consoles with the 360 typically ahead of the two. The only exceptions to this rule occur while using blade mode, where the 360 chugs down to as low as 18FPS while slicing two enemies at once. Given that the frame-rate varies so regularly for each version, the perceived effect is that both platforms judder in equal amounts when the game's physics engine involved, or where multiple explosions flare up on-screen."
It's basically a Super Nintendo game in that respect.
"However, similar results during open battle affect the run of play more drastically. In comparing eight different combat scenarios, we see the frame-rate wavering between 40 and 60FPS marks on both consoles with the 360 typically ahead of the two. The only exceptions to this rule occur while using blade mode, where the 360 chugs down to as low as 18FPS while slicing two enemies at once. Given that the frame-rate varies so regularly for each version, the perceived effect is that both platforms judder in equal amounts when the game's physics engine involved, or where multiple explosions flare up on-screen."
It's basically a Super Nintendo game in that respect.
CrunchinJelly
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Nope. Watch the video on the site.
Snapshot King
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To be fair, the gameplay videos you're describing are near impossible to validate properly because they're not recording the same issue. DF says that they more or less judder the same, with the 360 being slightly ahead, but the overall feel is the same, and the 10fps jump is only during the big scripted stuff.
Nope, they only noted that it isn't much of an issue in scripted cutscenes but the slowdown is still there during normal gameplay:
"This isn't an issue for scripted scenes, given that player input basically boils down to mashing a single button to proceed. However, similar results during open battle affect the run of play more drastically. In comparing eight different combat scenarios, we see the frame-rate wavering between 40 and 60FPS marks on both consoles with the 360 typically ahead of the two."
PS3 IQ is only superior in cutscenes, isn't it?
Yes.
Not to mention the prebaked lighting
sorry if its a dumb question but, will there be a pc version? these screens look terrible =x
.PC version isn't going to save you from shitty japanese textures.
Boots up Dark Souls on Steam and Cries.
Always-honest
Banned
God of War does this too.
I think many people can't tell the real difference between solid 60fps and 40-60.
Even when I hear PC gamers talking about 60FPS I suspect that the framerate is still dipping down a bit.
Naked Snake
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It's really sad that PS3 versions of multiplats perform worse even when it's the lead platform.
So happy that won't be the case next gen.
So happy that won't be the case next gen.
The only 60FPS game Platinum has made this generation was Bayonetta, and it had a 40-60fps framerate too.
I wasn't expecting Platinum to patch up the tearing on the 360 version since that version of console ports lately seems to always get the short stick when it comes to tearing. Very cool.
I doubt MGR's lighting is that much more advanced (I really don't know, but if Bayonetta or Vanquish are any indication...), but yeah DMC4's lighting was so flat it was almost as if it was a prerendered environment like an old RE game.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
If you read the demo analysis, even there they mention that while their tearing registration equipment registers screen tears, they don't appear on the screen like 'standard' tear lines.
so it must've been a rendering bug in the demo code.
WickedLaharl
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Hmm I ordered for PS3 and the UPS guy will be here soon. Now I must decide if my desire to play today is too strong or if I should refuse delivery and reorder for tomorrow.
Watching the performance video the diff in just too large to ignore...
Watching the performance video the diff in just too large to ignore...
That's what it sounded like, but the videos show the 360 version running faster most of the time.
Now I'm even more glad I didn't pre-order the PS3 version and instead bought God Hand for $10. Now I can wait for a price drop and think more about which version of MGRR to get.
Oh well. At least they go for a feel of 80-120fps.
Haha, well there is that.
Always-honest
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Yes. I edited what I wrote. It still looks mostly to occur during scripted segments.
PS3 it is then.
Always-honest
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According to some it's not just in QTE's
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
If only it was just the QTE's.
FrostuTheNinja
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About to walk out the door to pick up my PS3 copy! Today was the best day to take off. 
Always-honest
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Your point was about QTE's, But yeah, i was thinking: will i even notice 50 vs 60?..
Probably not, unless you purposely try and look for the minor stutter that comes with not having an even factor of the TV's refresh rate. It's much less noticeable on TVs than on monitors anyhow.
petethepanda
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Wondering if I can immediately exchange for the 360 verison when I go to pick up my pre-order later today. I was willing to put up with the larger framerate drops in the demo as the PS3 version had vsync, but seeing how the final game on 360 also has vsync and still maintains the better framerate overall..
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Retro_
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Will this finally put an end to that lead platform nonsense?
Just a meaningless buzzword.
Still getting it on PS3
I think it's that they're using scripted events as a point of comparison
Since for a game like this it's pretty hard to replicate the exact same conditions between two versions any other way to really test something like this.(Ex: in the same encounter one version on one playthrough might get 3 rocket launcher explosions during a test, while the other zero. So framerate will vary simply from the effects that occurred during the individual tests, rather than reveal any platform differences)
It doesn't make sense that it would only occur during scripted events. Think about it guys
Just a meaningless buzzword.
Still getting it on PS3
I think it's that they're using scripted events as a point of comparison
Since for a game like this it's pretty hard to replicate the exact same conditions between two versions any other way to really test something like this.(Ex: in the same encounter one version on one playthrough might get 3 rocket launcher explosions during a test, while the other zero. So framerate will vary simply from the effects that occurred during the individual tests, rather than reveal any platform differences)
It doesn't make sense that it would only occur during scripted events. Think about it guys
Leaning toward the PS3 just to not have to watch compressed video cutscenes.
Watching the gameplay video, the framerate drops seemed almost the same. In fact, the big drop I noticed was on 360 when he's cutting a couple of guys in blade mode.
Does the PS3 version have exclusive content? Did I hear that right?
(Good thing I accidentally ordered both on Amazon! Now to decide which to open)
Watching the gameplay video, the framerate drops seemed almost the same. In fact, the big drop I noticed was on 360 when he's cutting a couple of guys in blade mode.
Does the PS3 version have exclusive content? Did I hear that right?
(Good thing I accidentally ordered both on Amazon! Now to decide which to open)
Watching the comparison videos and seeing it in motion there is massive difference in shadows from non existent to extreme rough around the edges on 360.
Konami said maybe after the console versions are out.