GalacticAE
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Kccitystar said:
Wiki doesn't say that. It just lists the games in chronological order.
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Wiki doesn't say that. It just lists the games in chronological order.
Kccitystar said:
Chronologically they are in that order but to play them in that order I would not recommend. There are things in MGS3 that are fan service for those that played MGS2 but if you play MGS3 first you might not understand it. Oh and you will be upset at having all the options in MGS3 and portable ops then to degrade down to metal Gear.
I recommend to play the games in the order they were originally released so you cna see the evolution of the series and the gameplay.
OokieSpookie
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SMZC said:
You are kidding....right?
Augemitbutter
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Kccitystar said:
this one doesnt belong here.
GalacticAE
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OokieSpookie said:
He means that the NES version isn't canon, is inferior, and the MSX2 version is the one you should play. in other words: wut?
rollingstart
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Kccitystar said:
You play in order of game releases. There are too many injokes in MGS3 to play it before MGS2.
Quick question, what exactly is the difference between the original MSG2 and the MSG2 in the essentials set? Sure we got screwed out of some cool theater stuff or something like that that came on a bonus disc but is there anything else? If i remember right wasn't there some skateboard thing or VR missions or something? It's been ages and i don't remember what was on Substance or Substinance or whatever the MGS2 rerlease was called, i can only remember the pain of the stuff i didn't get in the MGS3 LE lol.
LiquidMetal14
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It is MGS The Essentials, many forget that. MGS1 was worth it alone for me. Now I want a PSN version! Get to work Tanod!!!!!!!!!!!tanod said:
Just my luck... I put in MGS2 and noticed it was causing my system to make a weird hissing/moaning noise. So I look on the bottom of the DVD. I see some weird ripple/oily/greasy looking circular pattern; something I've never seen before. Hopefully Best Buy will let me exchange it... Do y'all think they will?
rollingstart
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I need some help with MGS3. How do you
get out of this damn cave? I have my NVGs, torches and am looking around yet I have no clue. My battery is almost gone and I see no exit.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Where you first started out in the cave there should be a crawl space to the wall (to the left i think?). Just follow that and dont fall off the waterfall and you should eventually exit into the next cave part 
rollingstart
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Corran Horn said:Where you first started out in the cave there should be a crawl space to the wall (to the left i think?). Just follow that and dont fall off the waterfall and you should eventually exit into the next cave part
thanks
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Kccitystar said:
I feel sorry for whoever plays the games in that order. They is so much storyline and all that you will not understand if you play in that order. So many internal jokes, situations and whatnot will not be understood by a regular gamer.
If you ARE a completest, then i suggest the following order:
Metal Gear (MSX)
Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake (MSX2)
Metal Gear Solid (PSX)
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (PS2)
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (PS2)
Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops (PSP)
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (PS3)
Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake and Portable Ops can be skipped if you are not a completest and if hurdles like "now owning a PSP or Subsistence Disc 2" comes along.
Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake story is revealed in extensive detail in MGS1 for PSX.
Portable Ops' story can be easily guessed after playing all MGS titles but is still pretty important. Will be added in MGS Saga Volume 2 if you don't have a PSP.
Thanks Tanod and Mox didn't know the rerelease of MGS2 was only 1 disc. Gonna have to fire this up later to check it out.
My main reason for buying this was so that i could own a disc copy of MGS. At most i'll try out 2 and 3 from essentials just to check out any changes (like the camera in MGS3), howerver if i ever did feel like playing to recap the stories i'd play my old copies (the originals) since i've got saves on both that would allow me to start with stealth camo
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LiquidMetal14 said:
My main reason for buying this was so that i could own a disc copy of MGS. At most i'll try out 2 and 3 from essentials just to check out any changes (like the camera in MGS3), howerver if i ever did feel like playing to recap the stories i'd play my old copies (the originals) since i've got saves on both that would allow me to start with stealth camo
.akachan ningen
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TheWolf said:
She's Chinese. Have you really never met a foreign person?
HomerSimpson-Man
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Accents or no accents, MGS1 voice work is still better than Twin Snakes, most importantly still David Hayter's best rendition of Snake's voice.
rollingstart
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I forgot how awesome young Ocelot is. I want a game based around him.
So I finished MGS1 tonight.
First thing, I really regret playing MGS3 first. It's already clear to me that I should have started with MGS1, so I'll probably replay MGS3 some time after finishing MGS2.
Second, well, my thoughts about MGS1 are about the same as they were for MGS3.
Kojima's design aesthetic - Shit tons of variety in the gameplay, shit tons of options, shit tons of codec conversations, great presentation, and yet there's a lack of polish in some areas and a lack of any sense of consistency.
It's a boon and a blessing. You certainly can't say that any MGS game is repetitive, but it comes at the sacrifice of some polish in the gameplay. It's nice that Kojima plays around with tons of ideas, especially in boss fights (even if they're a bit overrated), but there sure isn't much sneaking in this "stealth action" game.
And of course, I do have some general complaints about aiming and the camera system, but I don't think either kill the experience. The aiming is probably my biggest complaint, it really made me angry during the
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Presentation is incredibly strong though. Much of the time I was thinking "Wow, this was made in '98?" The graphics are of course dated but the voice acting and cutscene direction is simply spot on.
I'll be taking a break of about a month or two before hopping into MGS2. Gonna have some buffers via Ninja Gaiden DS, Okami, and The World Ends With You. Keep me from burning out.
First thing, I really regret playing MGS3 first. It's already clear to me that I should have started with MGS1, so I'll probably replay MGS3 some time after finishing MGS2.
Second, well, my thoughts about MGS1 are about the same as they were for MGS3.
Kojima's design aesthetic - Shit tons of variety in the gameplay, shit tons of options, shit tons of codec conversations, great presentation, and yet there's a lack of polish in some areas and a lack of any sense of consistency.
It's a boon and a blessing. You certainly can't say that any MGS game is repetitive, but it comes at the sacrifice of some polish in the gameplay. It's nice that Kojima plays around with tons of ideas, especially in boss fights (even if they're a bit overrated), but there sure isn't much sneaking in this "stealth action" game.
And of course, I do have some general complaints about aiming and the camera system, but I don't think either kill the experience. The aiming is probably my biggest complaint, it really made me angry during the
communications tower and final scene in the tunnel
Presentation is incredibly strong though. Much of the time I was thinking "Wow, this was made in '98?" The graphics are of course dated but the voice acting and cutscene direction is simply spot on.
I'll be taking a break of about a month or two before hopping into MGS2. Gonna have some buffers via Ninja Gaiden DS, Okami, and The World Ends With You. Keep me from burning out.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
Just finished up with the trilogy, and I have two questions for the vets.
PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T FINISHED 3, DON'T HIGHLIGHT THE SPOILERS.
SERIOUSLY, DON'T HIGHLIGHT THEM.
LAST WARNING.
Just in case, if anyone does have an answer, it should probably be done in pm.
PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T FINISHED 3, DON'T HIGHLIGHT THE SPOILERS.
SERIOUSLY, DON'T HIGHLIGHT THEM.
LAST WARNING.
First...did Adam and Eva even really exist, or was it all just supposed to be Adamska meeting up with Snake?
Second, it mentions that E.V.A. disappears in Hanoi....is it said anywhere on exactly where the Les Enfants Terible project took place? It would lend a lot of credibility to her being the trio of Big Boss' son's mother....
Second, it mentions that E.V.A. disappears in Hanoi....is it said anywhere on exactly where the Les Enfants Terible project took place? It would lend a lot of credibility to her being the trio of Big Boss' son's mother....
Just in case, if anyone does have an answer, it should probably be done in pm.
Lifeonmars?
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HOLY CRAP I just realized Fat Man's suit makes him look like a bomb.
Yoboman
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I disagree, Hayter's voice work in MGS was inconsistent. At some points he was good, other points he was just plain bad. His voicework towards the end was just no good. His best rendition was definitely in MGS2, easily.HomerSimpson-Man said:
MGS3 was kind of flat, maybe more to do with the dialogue
SolidSnakex
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As far as the accent goes, that was a mistake in the original script. Ryan and Kris talked about it on a KojiPro Report. Basically it said that she needed to speak with an accent and they later learned it was a mistake and so it was corrected for Twin Snakes.
GalacticAE
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Metroidvania said:
Yea, MGS3 spoilers ahoy:
SPOILERS
Yea, it was just Ocelot who was supposed to show up but decided to help on the sidelines when he found out about Eva. But Ocelot wasn't really one of the codebreakers. He was a CIA spy and a student of the American philosopher's branch who infiltrated the KGB ranks by pretending to be an American defector. He was the child stolen from The Boss and The Sorrow by the philosophers.
There isn't a specific location mentioned about the LET project. But I would imagine it was somewhere in the west as the UK and US both got their share of the Snakes. It could be possible that EVA is the surrogate mother since she was forced to flee China and was fired from her spot among the Chinese Philosophers branch. Plus she's known as Big Mama in MGS4.
There isn't a specific location mentioned about the LET project. But I would imagine it was somewhere in the west as the UK and US both got their share of the Snakes. It could be possible that EVA is the surrogate mother since she was forced to flee China and was fired from her spot among the Chinese Philosophers branch. Plus she's known as Big Mama in MGS4.
And just my luck yet a-fucking-gain...I can't exchange it cause they have no more copies left...I swear, everything I buy has a problem. TV had a dented screen, laptop had dead pixels, now my damn MGS2 disc is screwed up(these are just things from the past few weeks/months). Shit, I even had to exchange my damn FFXII CE cause the tin case was dented. Then, of course, on my new copy the bonus DVD has a deep ass scratch on it and 1/3 the videos don't work. Fuck, I suppose I can expect something similar with my MGS4 LE...Actually...my original MGS3 Subsistence disc didn't even work right. I had to freaking rent the game at Movie Gallery and swap the discs. /RANTNeoUltima said:
rollingstart
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All three are now finished.
and if MGS4 has an ending even half as good as MGS3, I would be satisfied. MGS3 ending is amazing.
and if MGS4 has an ending even half as good as MGS3, I would be satisfied. MGS3 ending is amazing.
I just read that Big Mama in the MGS4 trailer was
from MGS3. It's funny because yesterday I was playing and thinking "Man, I wonder how much she has aged since the cold war era," because a lot of starlets from back in the day have aged and it's weird seeing them young and beautiful and then watching them age through photos. I think it was some sort of premonition.
Eva
RadioHeadAche
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Linkzg said:
I agree, it was one of the best ending I've ever seen in a video game.
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tell me i don't need a PSX memory card to save my Metal Gear Solid game. FUKCFUKCFUCKFUCKFUCKFU
tell me i don't need a PSX memory card to save my Metal Gear Solid game. FUKCFUKCFUCKFUCKFUCKFU
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