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[SMZC]

Oh? What exactly? I thought Substance was just SoL + VR Missions?

Well, it's mainly that, yep, but there were some subtle improvements on the main mode too, like a small cut-scene that was missing on the original Sons of Liberty US release (I think they added it for the PAL release, though; I'm not sure).

But if you're deciding between getting this package (Substance and Subsistence's first disc) and the complete Subsistence version with the two discs, I'd definitely go after the Essential Collection. I mean, Substance has waaay more content than Subsistence's second disc.

 

[kbear]

got mine tonight... the cases for the games are better quality and look cases than a normal ps2 game

 

[atomico]

How did Substance improve 2?

afaik, the main game wasn't altered, but substance does feature tons of vr missions, and there's those pesky "snake tales" (which are a bit dull, since cutscenes are gone and you get plain text instead), but I liked playing as plissken

there's also the demo theater, which lets you switch around characters for cutscenes. bit pointless, but it's fun to play around for a little bit

 

[Costanza]

i beat the tank

 

[Mamesj]

8.8

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/860/860894p1.html


Another way of putting it: the entire MGS series for $30 is an 8.8.

 

[gray_fox224]

8.8

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/860/860894p1.html


Another way of putting it: the entire MGS series for $30 is an 8.8.

stupid

 

[Costanza]

8.8

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/860/860894p1.html


Another way of putting it: the entire MGS series for $30 is an 8.8.

They took off because of the memory cards and the missing disc 2 in 3 it looks like

 

[brandonh83]

i beat the tank

:lol

 

[SMZC]

8.8

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/860/860894p1.html


Another way of putting it: the entire MGS series for $30 is an 8.8.

omg mgs4 getting below 9.0 confirmed.

 

[Inanna]

i beat the tank

Getting closer to Psycho Mantis Boss fight!

 

[kimchimonkey]

jus picked up my copy. I was late to the party with mgs. I remember playing the psx demo cd long time ago, but never picking up mgs until I heard a story about how mgs 3's ending was so great.

Long story short, I played mgs 2 first and it grew on me. I admit I didn't know what the fuck i was doing in the tanker section, but as I got more used to the controls I was in. I admit I fell asleep during one of the cinematics and was confused as fuck at what was going on, but the presentation and mgs world was engrossing. mgs 3 was good...

I've been looking for mgs 1 and I can finally play it on a ps3 without having to worry about the memory card issue.

I fired up mgs 1 and I don't know what yall talking about for a ps1 game it holds up pretty well. I can't wait for mgs 4~

 

[Metroidvania]

Hmm...do Mantis' little

Spoiler

"mind-reads"

work if you have a PSX memory card with the correct data?

 

[LiquidMetal14]

So MGS2 Substance is the full thing? With Vr MISSIONS INTACT?!?!?!

 

[Crisis]

8.8

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/860/860894p1.html


Another way of putting it: the entire MGS series for $30 is an 8.8.

Oh IGN...

 

[h3ro]

8.8

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/860/860894p1.html


Another way of putting it: the entire MGS series for $30 is an 8.8.

That makes no sense...

How is this is different from all the knob-slobbing that went on for Orange Box?

And yes, I know OB had some new content, but reviewers went on and on about how it was such a collection of content. This is three of the greatest games EVER made... 8.8.

 

[rollingstart]

8.8

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/860/860894p1.html


Another way of putting it: the entire MGS series for $30 is an 8.8.

What a useless review. I dont care about the score, but why the hell would you tell someone on your staff to review the exact same games that were reviewed before except with different cover and disc art.

MGS = 9.8
MGS2s = 9.1
MGS3s = 9.8 (granted some people will take off points because second disc isnt there)

IGN actually gave this collection a 9.5 (rounded down from 9.6 for the whole second disc thing)

 

[ZealousD]

I'm actually not too far behind Costanza. I beat the tank and I'm part of the way through the second building now, got the missles.

 

[Costanza]

I'm actually not too far behind Costanza. I beat the tank and I'm part of the way through the second building now, got the missles.

You're ahead of me now actually. I took a break once I got into that building. Resuming now

 

[Costanza]

These guards are fucking stupid shooting at me

edit: :lol Just walked in on a guard taking a piss

 

[h3ro]

These guards are fucking stupid shooting at me

I think you should try playing after a few drinks... I don't know if you'd do better but it would entertain the heck out of GAF

 

[xS1TH L0RDx]

I'm pretty jealous I can't be playing with you guys.

...fucking amazon and their march 24th date...

 

[Auron_Kale]

Got mine today.

Here's a comparison shot I took of the Essentials discs with the 20th Anniversary discs:

 

[Costanza]

fucking missiles suck

 

[Oudom]

Picked up my copy today. Will start part one soon. Here I come Meryl!

 

[Costanza]

WHY IN THE FUCK wasn't first person mode on the missiles told to me by the game, found that shit by accident and it made things 1000x easier

 

[BigBoss]

WHY IN THE FUCK wasn't first person mode on the missiles told to me by the game, found that shit by accident and it made things 1000x easier

I think it tells you in the weapons menu.

 

[Costanza]

I think it tells you in the weapons menu.

I checked there, it's not

 

[Costanza]

Cyborg Ninja :lol

 

[Darkpen]

HURT ME MORE, SNAKE, HURT ME MORE, DAWG. I'M GOING CRAAAAZYYYYY

 

[Angelcurio]

does the collection include the first two msx games that were present in mgs3 subsistence?

 

[NameGenerated]

does the collection include the first two msx games that were present in mgs3 subsistence?

If I recall they were on the second disc, so I doubt it's in this package.

 

[Alex]

Someone seriously fucking reviewed a box set...

"THIS NEW BOX ART IS PRETTY COOL, BUT NOT QUITE 9.0 COOL"

 

[NolbertoS]

does the collection include the first two msx games that were present in mgs3 subsistence?

This has been asked hundreds of times in this thread and the answer will be "NO". They should sticky that, for people who wish to buy the MGS: Collection, but won't if MSX games aren't included.

 

[Ryu1999]

I"m jealous of you guys, but I made the conscious decision to make Amazon ship this Collection and MGS4 at the same time

 

[JoeBroni]

I've never really been into Metal Gear but I picked this up today wanting to give the series another go. Does anyone know where I could score Portable Ops cheap? I'll do the ebay thing if required, but I'm wondering if anyone knows how hard this is to track down in brick and mortar stores new or used. Is MGSPO rare/hard to find?

 

[Costanza]

NO GODDAMMIT. I had all his fucking health down and he did this electric thing and I died


fuck fuck fuck

 

[gray_fox224]

:lol

 

[Johnas]

does the collection include the first two msx games that were present in mgs3 subsistence?

I'm not picking on you in particular, but this is probably on the verge of becoming a bannable meme at this point.

 

[Alex]

I've never really been into Metal Gear but I picked this up today wanting to give the series another go. Does anyone know where I could score Portable Ops cheap? I'll do the ebay thing if required, but I'm wondering if anyone knows how hard this is to track down in brick and mortar stores new or used. Is MGSPO rare/hard to find?

Like... everywhere. Portable ops is like 10-15 bucks online at most places and 20 brand new still if you want to nab it from a retail story.

 

[Tim-E]

BONE AND SINEW

 

[Red Blaster]

NO GODDAMMIT. I had all his fucking health down and he did this electric thing and I died


fuck fuck fuck

Throw a few chaff grenades if you need to slow him down for a bit.

 

[Costanza]

beat him

 

[witness]

I've never really been into Metal Gear but I picked this up today wanting to give the series another go. Does anyone know where I could score Portable Ops cheap? I'll do the ebay thing if required, but I'm wondering if anyone knows how hard this is to track down in brick and mortar stores new or used. Is MGSPO rare/hard to find?

I have not been able to find Portable Ops all year long at any EB or Gamestop at home or away at college. Seems like they all went away after Portable Ops + came out, I want to find it and play through it so I can get that part of the story.

 

[SMZC]

beat him

Mantis time, gaf

 

[Angelcurio]

This has been asked hundreds of times in this thread and the answer will be "NO". They should sticky that, for people who wish to buy the MGS: Collection, but won't if MSX games aren't included.

crap, that was actually my deciding factor since i already have all those games. i guess i will have to hunt down mgs3 subsistence.

 

[Costanza]

This cutscene..........soooooo long

 

[-Rogue5-]

This is like The Orange Box, minus two releases, but for half the price... This shit is golden and an 8.8 is criminal after seeing the individual scores of each of those games.

 

[MickeyKnox]

This cutscene..........soooooo long

Bathe in the awesome.

METAL GEAR?!??!?

 

[Johnas]

This is like The Orange Box, minus two releases, but for half the price... This shit is golden and an 8.8 is criminal after seeing the individual scores of each of those games.

Yeah, I bought this out of principle alone. It does make for some excellent backup copies, should anything happen to my others.

I do wonder if it will have collector value one day, though. I'm guessing it will, given the apparently low print run, and the fact that it'll probably be one of the last great PS2 releases.

 

[Costanza]

"She's got a very cute behind" :lol :lol