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Metal Gear Survive - TGS 2016 Debut
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X_xWolverinEx_X
Neo Member
what were they fighting over ?
Metal gear is probably dead without Kojima. It had a pretty good run (last few games not withstanding). I wonder if Konami will attempt to Greenlight a 'proper' full scale MGS ever, especially following what will likely be a dumpster fire with Survive. If they do, it will very likely be the last big MGS game. Kojima always seemed like he was a massive driving force within Konami, fighting against the culture of the rest of the company and trying to pull them into the present, given his attempts to modernize their game development etc, he's better off not having to fight an uphill battle.
Bring on Death Stranding.
yeah, links?
Bring on Death Stranding.
yeah, links?
GeNoMe
Member
Any footage available of this?
Reckless Onion
Member
mg is dead
I watched that with an open mind, but...it looks terrible. Like a cruddy $15 Horde mode add on. I want some Peace Walker styled coop stealthing, damn it, not this booty lookin' base defense.
Also, are Platinum and Konami sharing animations or something. What is up with that bow and arrow.
Also, are Platinum and Konami sharing animations or something. What is up with that bow and arrow.
Doctor_Thomas
Member
What a waste of that sort of gameplay. This just looks like a really dull, uninteresting experience and made about 4 years too late. The gameplay doesn't even look remotely appealing in this context.
More fog than an N64 game as well.
No. No, thanks.
More fog than an N64 game as well.
No. No, thanks.
Starbuck2907
Member
Now, take this game and add tons of microtrandactions, and then you'll have the full Konami experience in a post Kojima MGS universe.
At least, that's what I suspect,
At least, that's what I suspect,
Dio Brando
Banned
exactly. would be really fun to do with friends, and MGSV gameplay is already polished enough to accommodate that.
DirgeExtinction
Member
Watch this be better than MGSV in both gameplay and story.
Wait, it passed?
I'd die laughing.
Embearded
Member
So I take you were happy with the footage they shwed? No story and underbudgeted as it was.
If only!
Doctor_Thomas
Member
Afghanistan, but in the Fallout universe!
Dio Brando
Banned
and rendered by an N64.
Works for Stranger Things!
Wait, no, they got transported in the middle of the ocean.
deadscreensky
Member
It didn't look great, but without translation I couldn't especially follow what was going on.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=bU8cCD4BYr4
Around 18:00 mark i think.
'Big Verbal fight' is a huge exageration.
Kojima's said in an interview that Shinkawa is the only one he's never actually fought with.
RandomExpletive
Member
Yikes you'd think they'd have at least put the effort in on the new weapons, considering V's gameplay is already top-tier, but then this IS Konami 
I am genuinely still wondering why they didn't just fart out something like MGSV VR missions, except with co-op (and no zombies, or hell just toss in the "zombies" from the campaign)... wouldn't that have been CHEAPER and BETTER RECEIVED?!
I played a good deal of MGO3, and when it works it FUCKING. WORKS.
I am genuinely still wondering why they didn't just fart out something like MGSV VR missions, except with co-op (and no zombies, or hell just toss in the "zombies" from the campaign)... wouldn't that have been CHEAPER and BETTER RECEIVED?!
I played a good deal of MGO3, and when it works it FUCKING. WORKS.
X_xWolverinEx_X
Neo Member
^^^^ this
Doctor_Thomas
Member
See when they were defending the base, were they trying to defend it or trying to let it blow up to kill as many zombies as possible, because they seemed to be defending it for ages, then when the massive swarm showed up, they just gave up and ran.... I don't get it.
They failed the mission.
I'm not sure why Konami decided to build this game around solely the weakest aspects of MGSV's stellar gameplay, but it seems like they've done it. The way they've added melee weapons is absolutely bizarre.
longdi
Banned
Interesting what's this verbal fight about?
Just saw the video, seems like normal create for dramatic effect section
deadscreensky
Member
Okay, so that specific enemy type seems to be deliberately easy to stealth against. Makes sense. This mission is presumably extremely early in the game, so I'm not going to infer too much just yet.
darkwing-buck
Member
The melee weapon combat looks weird.
This doesn't make any sense. You think that Kojima has a bad relationship with a guy because they had a disagreement in a BTS video of MGS4, when the guy is a programmer Kojima has worked with since Policenauts, and has been promoted steadily within Kojima Productions since then, and even after MGS4? So Kojima has a bad relationship with this guy, but he promotes him to a producer, allows him to supervise the production of Metal Gear Solid Rising, and lets him continue supervising the production of Metal Gear Rising after the original project failed and was moved to Platinum, and then allowed him to take on even more responsibilities in MGSV, including the production of Metal Gear Online?
To me it seems like Kojima really respects and trusts this guy despite there being set backs. A good leader knows how valuable it is to have people who are not afraid to say no and challenge your views, even if in the end they have to end up doing what you decide.
Orniletter
Banned
This looks like Dead Island Riptide, recreated with MGS V assets.
I was willing to give this game a chance after it's announcement....but nah, I'm out.
I was willing to give this game a chance after it's announcement....but nah, I'm out.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Looked phoned in and cheap.
I was was latching onto some mild optimism. Kojima fallout and MGSV disappointment aside, I was thinking best case scenario would be a horror/zombie themed co-op game utilising the core game systems from MGSV, essentially tasking groups of four to co-ordinate planned infiltrations against supernatural opponents. And to me, despite the obvious baggage, that would be great as the MGSV gameplay systems are fucking awesome.
But this seems to lean heavily on the action side of MGSV, coupled with a cheap-as-fuck looking base building/tower defence aspect. The combat system for the new classes looks clumsily animated and janky as fuck, too.
I was was latching onto some mild optimism. Kojima fallout and MGSV disappointment aside, I was thinking best case scenario would be a horror/zombie themed co-op game utilising the core game systems from MGSV, essentially tasking groups of four to co-ordinate planned infiltrations against supernatural opponents. And to me, despite the obvious baggage, that would be great as the MGSV gameplay systems are fucking awesome.
But this seems to lean heavily on the action side of MGSV, coupled with a cheap-as-fuck looking base building/tower defence aspect. The combat system for the new classes looks clumsily animated and janky as fuck, too.
Joelstinton14
Member
TBH i think it looks ok/pretty decent. Wouldn't surprised me if this started out as a DLC pack for MGSV which Konami has decided to flesh out.
zerokoolpsx
Member
The combat animation looks stiff. Like he's slowly sliding to his opponent with every swing. Didn't like what I saw. There's more dislikes than likes.
...Literally all they had to do was was make a bunch of generic missions like "kill this target" or "retrieve this item" along with some more levels/environments and they would've had a solid expansion pack/standalone game. MGSV's gameplay is good enough that they could get away with doing only that.
Instead, they went ahead and made this bizarre mess.
Instead, they went ahead and made this bizarre mess.
Embearded
Member
I'll make it simpler and say that the only thing they had to do, was to make a mission creation tool and sell it. I'd buy yhat shit day 0.
stargateheaven
Member
it looks fun to me..
Not metal gear, but fun.
I think you guys are being too harsh on it because of what you wanted it to be.
Not metal gear, but fun.
I think you guys are being too harsh on it because of what you wanted it to be.
I was kinda digging it at the beginning despite the stealth seemingly only having dumb zombies. Co-op makes so much sense in MGSV with the huge maps but then it just turned into horde mode. It would be unique if there wasn't prescribed win conditions or objectives and it really was about survival though the game doesn't seem to be like that. Maybe for the best because the actual flow of gameplay seems boring.
Sora the Cat
Member
I'm being harsh on it because it seems to be just another generic horde defense shooter, I would say the same thing about any game that uses that boring as hell formula and has nothing else to offer. I guess people who find that genre to be fun will be all over this.
Also, it looks aesthetically ugly, what's up with that fog? Are the skulls around or something?
My favorite part:
Did they give them the MGSV engine and assets and said go full Garry Mod on it ? lol
This looks awesome and I can't wait to play it. Co-op MGS mechanics with survival/scavenging elements? Where do I sign up?
If you watched that video and decided it was generic, I can tell you've literally never played a horde game in your entire life, or have any idea what makes horde games interesting. This video demonstrates a ton of features that aren't in horde games at all. It's super distinct thanks to the MGS mechanics and the super in-depth (from what we could see, anyways) defense mechanics.
If you watched that video and decided it was generic, I can tell you've literally never played a horde game in your entire life, or have any idea what makes horde games interesting. This video demonstrates a ton of features that aren't in horde games at all. It's super distinct thanks to the MGS mechanics and the super in-depth (from what we could see, anyways) defense mechanics.
Original Man
Member
Could only watch a minute of it. Fucking terrible. Smh konami. My favorite gaming series died when Kojima was kicked out