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Metals-Age: Gold, Silver, and Hedging Inflation crikey!

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Freedom dies, when money lies!

Money, Currency, and Education
This thread is all about sound/honest money. Money, NOT currency. Our world today uses fiat currency. One good way I've heard paper money(fiat currency) described is that it's a mortgage on wealth that doesn't exist. The difference between money and currency is that money maintains its value over long periods of time. Historically gold has held its value against inflation of fiat currency, this is why it is referred to as an inflation hedge. It is not meant to make you rich but it will maintain what you have earned to keep your way of living from declining. I like to think of it as an insurance policy on my savings account. It is also tangible and has no counter-party risk if you possess it. Yes it can be stolen but you don't have to rely on a bank or financial institution for ownership.

I believe that education is one of the most important things a person can invest in and I believe money/currency is one of the most important subjects to be educated in. We all use currency after all. I find it crazy that people can spend their entire lives working hard, paying taxes and bills, but never even ponder the question, "What is money?" Or they live under the assumption that it is merely what you use to buy things or a piece of paper with a former president's head on it without a thought of how it is created/given its value.

Monetary literacy should and NEEDS to come before financial literacy. In order to make smart financial decisions it's crucial to understand the plumbing of how the monetary system works. In its current form, it is a system that I believe is evil and based on fraud. When central banks steal purchasing power from the common man, he must then work more—not to increase his wealth—but simply to replace the stolen purchasing power. This was by deliberate design from those who are responsible, they even told each other that if people have to work harder to maintain the same living standards they won't have time to figure out what is happening to them. Inflation is theft. If you take a look at inflation, you will come to find that it is a crime against future generations as it steals from the future to pay for today. Deficit spending is spending the money of your children and your grand children today at their expense. We have had periods in history for hundreds of years where prices stayed the same, no inflation. It's still possible. Inflation isn't some natural phenomenon that happens and we cannot control it or understand it. It IS by design to steal from the whole populace.

Protecting Your Assets
If you understand money/currency and how inflation works, you will be better able to protect your hard earnings. Pricing assets in dollars is deceiving and dangerous because the dollar always changes. It would be like trying to build a house using a measuring tape where an inch changes from day to day. It would be impossible to build anything doing so without a fixed measurement but we foolishly price assets in an ever changing currency. Pricing things historically was done in weight. In 1913 a house on average was $4000 or 200 ounces of gold at $20 an ounce. In 2023 the average price of a home was $400,000 or 200 oz of gold at $2000 an ounce. Many assets are at all time highs in currency but haven't changed much or at all in terms of weight of gold.

Gold has in-fact out paced the stock market in the past 25 years. Is it volatile? It can be, but it's best suited for savers not day traders.

[ This is rhetorical. Can you get out of a jail if you don't know you're in jail? Can you get out of servitude if you don't know you're an indentured servant? None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. ]​






Documentary videos!






Historical Quotes
  • Thomas Edison once said, "People who will not turn a shovel full of dirt on the project nor contribute a pound of material, will collect more money than will the People who supply all the material and do all the work." How many here have paid a mortgage? After 30 years you've paid more in interest than the house is worth.
  • Henry Ford once said, "If the American people knew how the banking and monetary system worked, there would be revolution before the morning."
  • "Money is gold, nothing else" - JP Morgan
  • "And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson
  • The bold effort the present (central) bank had made to control the government ... are but premonitions of the fate that await the American people should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution or the establishment of another like it. - Andrew Jackson

Recommended Books

There are several books I would recommend reading that will help people to further understand money!

  • What has Government done to our money by Murray Rothbard
  • The Creature from Jekyll Island by G. Edward Griffin
  • End the Fed by Ron Paul
  • The Case Against the Fed by Murray Rothbard
  • The Invisible Crash by James Dine
  • A Pocketbook of Gold by James Sinclair
  • Honest Money by Gary North





When you deposit cash, you are in actuality loaning it to the bank. Holders of cash in banks are unsecured creditors with a credit claim against the bank, but have no enforceable claim to their loaned money.

Banks don't invest your money, they gamble with it. Banks don't take deposits and they don't loan money. They purchase securities and loaning for a car/house is them purchasing a security.

Every year, Americans pay $1.1 trillion in interest to bankers who create money from nothing. Not from deposits. Not from reserves, from keystrokes. The bank types "$300,000" into your mortgage account, charges you $580,000 over 30 years, and if you can't pay interest on money they invented, they take your house. That's not banking. That's theft with a legal framework.




Discussion

I would like to know if any gaffers save a portion of their earnings in precious metals like gold or silver? And to clarify, never do anything you aren't comfortable with, doing your own research is key.
 
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For anyone new to the space and are looking for equities, Agnico Eagle, Dundee, and Wheaton are the safest, buy-and-hold investments.
 
Wow, US Treasuries have been surpassed by gold as the major reserve asset by foreign central banks for the first time since 1996. The United States has also declared Silver a strategic mineral on the 25th of August. Demand is going up as they will be building a strategic stockpile, first time since the 1960s. Things are looking good for metals savers.





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Silver over $40 keep going you beautiful sexy shiny thing..

It's driving the share price of one of my major stock positions and making me nice chunks of change every week.
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Silver over $40 keep going you beautiful sexy shiny thing..

It's driving the share price of one of my major stock positions and making me nice chunks of change every week.
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So here's a guy who explains it WAY better and more in detail than my above post. Really good stuff here. When I started saving in silver, it was only $19 an ounce. Now it's more than double that and I believe some day we will look back in disbelief that it was ever as low as $40. Highest quarterly and monthly close of all time.

 
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So here's a guy who explains it WAY better and more in detail than my above post. Really good stuff here. When I started saving in silver, it was only $19 an ounce. Now it's more than double that and I believe some day we will look back in disbelief that it was ever as low as $40. Highest quarterly and monthly close of all time.



Not sure about the video, but the statement is certainly true. It's a suppressed asset, as you've mentioned elsewhere, and with the unprecedented inflation that we've experienced in the last 5 years, it's a matter of time. Gold and silver will both blow the lid - many estimates I see for price targets appear quite conservative. While we have yet to cross the highs that resulted from the "Great Financial Crisis", as they call it, clearly this rally is much more substantial and sustained - it will certainly go much higher than the previous all time high without doubt. There has always been discrepancy between the paper and spot price, but since "Corona", that disparity has only enlarged generally and likely illustrates some foundational cracks in the system as it stands. I expect it to continue to widen over time until a complete disconnect transpires.

I started my interest in silver when it was around 10 an ounce - I thought fortune really favored me when for years in the 2010s it returned to low prices (mid teens) for quite some time.
 
Not sure about the video, but the statement is certainly true. It's a suppressed asset, as you've mentioned elsewhere, and with the unprecedented inflation that we've experienced in the last 5 years, it's a matter of time. Gold and silver will both blow the lid - many estimates I see for price targets appear quite conservative. While we have yet to cross the highs that resulted from the "Great Financial Crisis", as they call it, clearly this rally is much more substantial and sustained - it will certainly go much higher than the previous all time high without doubt. There has always been discrepancy between the paper and spot price, but since "Corona", that disparity has only enlarged generally and likely illustrates some foundational cracks in the system as it stands. I expect it to continue to widen over time until a complete disconnect transpires.

I started my interest in silver when it was around 10 an ounce - I thought fortune really favored me when for years in the 2010s it returned to low prices (mid teens) for quite some time.
That rally shortly after the Great Financial Crisis spiked really high but didn't last very long and was most probably fueled by fear. When things spike so fast in the market, it usually is never sustained. This rally has been fueled a lot by inflation and has been a gradual rise over the past few years with higher lows. Anything could happen but with this information about central banks buying into silver again, the United States just this month considering it a critical strategic mineral again, and inflation not going away I do not see there being a big crash.

However, even if there is a huge drop, that just benefits me by being able to buy more. It's a nice way to keep your savings out of the banking system that is designed to rob you. And $10 an ounce was a good place to start at. I'm glad I started at $19 and wish I would have known to start collecting gold when it was $250 an ounce in 2000. :D
 
That rally shortly after the Great Financial Crisis spiked really high but didn't last very long and was most probably fueled by fear. When things spike so fast in the market, it usually is never sustained. This rally has been fueled a lot by inflation and has been a gradual rise over the past few years with higher lows. Anything could happen but with this information about central banks buying into silver again, the United States just this month considering it a critical strategic mineral again, and inflation not going away I do not see there being a big crash.

However, even if there is a huge drop, that just benefits me by being able to buy more. It's a nice way to keep your savings out of the banking system that is designed to rob you. And $10 an ounce was a good place to start at. I'm glad I started at $19 and wish I would have known to start collecting gold when it was $250 an ounce in 2000. :D
Completely agree with every sentiment in this post. $20 USD an ounce was still an amazing price, IMO. An ounce of silver for a 20 dollar bill, what a deal! I agree that, not long from now, people will look upon current prices (in the 30s, let's say) as very cheap.

Sadly I never acquired much gold, I always favored silver for various reasons. I wish I had, though.
 
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What is the best way to start investing in metals? Do you need a brokarage account?
I consider it saving, rather than investing because all you are doing is trading one form of money(fiat currency) for another. Similar to turning bills into coins.

However I don't have a whole lot of experience in different ways to do so. You could buy silver ETFs or stock in silver miners but my personal opinion is to go physical. Physical needs no brokerage so it has no counterparty risk.

Physical can be acquired by a local coin shop or online bullion dealer but online charges shipping if you don't order like $200 worth.
 
What is the best way to start investing in metals? Do you need a brokarage account?
Investing in ETF and mining companies is certainly one method - but the best and most secure method (for me personally) is by physically holding the item yourself. I have a few choice vendors I use both in person and online depending on the size of the order. Bulk can often yield better pricing per unit. Further, depending on your goals, you can get the same weight for cheaper. For example, myself, I like silver for the sake of the metal and not necessarily for purposes of collection. For my money, an American Eagle Silver Round (Ounce) is worth just as much as a Canadian Maple or some other third party bank, so long as it's a generally well recognized mint. In other words, I buy for weight. This matters because some brands or designs carry a "premium". 10 American Eagles can cost a significant amount more than a 10 Oz bar from a lesser known mint. You can take this farther by purchasing "junk" silver (pre 1965 US currency of dimes and quarters). Nine times out of ten, I am shooting to walk away from a transaction with more metal weight per dollar, but occasionally I will pay a premium for a certain design or item I want. Each investor is different in terms of how they value it vs how they acquire it.

A brokerage account is one way, as you mentioned. You could open a simple to use app/account like Robinhood, alternatively you could visit physical coin shops and begin doing research on some online shops if you intend volume - though some stores will work with you on ordering volume for a discount as well.

My main issue with investing in paper silver especially (SLV, for example) is that I believe there are far more "shares" existing and outstanding than physical metal to back it. While I think it's relatively safe in the short term to play with "investment vehicles" such as SLV, I think the long term or if/when SHTF, it's not where you will want your exposure to silver manifesting.

I consider it saving, rather than investing because all you are doing is trading one form of money(fiat currency) for another. Similar to turning bills into coins.
I also agree with Unknown? Unknown? in terms of feeling it more of a "saving" than an "investment". I do have some short term investments (options) on vehicles like SLV, but if I wanted to acquire it for the long haul, I would be buying it physically and not investing in SLV shares, for example.
 
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Make sure you are not buying certificates but actual real metals. Buy a safe and put the metal in the safe. Do not buy a cert.
 
Investing in ETF and mining companies is certainly one method - but the best and most secure method (for me personally) is by physically holding the item yourself. I have a few choice vendors I use both in person and online depending on the size of the order. Bulk can often yield better pricing per unit. Further, depending on your goals, you can get the same weight for cheaper. For example, myself, I like silver for the sake of the metal and not necessarily for purposes of collection. For my money, an American Eagle Silver Round (Ounce) is worth just as much as a Canadian Maple or some other third party bank, so long as it's a generally well recognized mint. In other words, I buy for weight. This matters because some brands or designs carry a "premium". 10 American Eagles can cost a significant amount more than a 10 Oz bar from a lesser known mint. You can take this farther by purchasing "junk" silver (pre 1965 US currency of dimes and quarters). Nine times out of ten, I am shooting to walk away from a transaction with more metal weight per dollar, but occasionally I will pay a premium for a certain design or item I want. Each investor is different in terms of how they value it vs how they acquire it.

A brokerage account is one way, as you mentioned. You could open a simple to use app/account like Robinhood, alternatively you could visit physical coin shops and begin doing research on some online shops if you intend volume - though some stores will work with you on ordering volume for a discount as well.

My main issue with investing in paper silver especially (SLV, for example) is that I believe there are far more "shares" existing and outstanding than physical metal to back it. While I think it's relatively safe in the short term to play with "investment vehicles" such as SLV, I think the long term or if/when SHTF, it's not where you will want your exposure to silver manifesting.


I also agree with Unknown? Unknown? in terms of feeling it more of a "saving" than an "investment". I do have some short term investments (options) on vehicles like SLV, but if I wanted to acquire it for the long haul, I would be buying it physically and not investing in SLV shares, for example.
That's good info, I just don't want to buy from these fly-by-night operations advertised on late night infomercals.
 
Make sure you are not buying certificates but actual real metals. Buy a safe and put the metal in the safe. Do not buy a cert.
And buy only REPUTABLE dealers online or a good local coin shop. No shady sites.

Most local shops can tell fakes just by looking at them, holding them, etc but they also have sophisticated expensive devices that verify authentic metals. If you find one, ask questions! Ask them how they can spot counterfeiting, ask if they get people bringing in counterfeit, etc. Get to know them.

That overnight metal movement looking snazzy.. Post 40 USD Silver, here we go..


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Pretty crazy! It has not been over $40 for very long in history.
 
That's good info, I just don't want to buy from these fly-by-night operations advertised on late night infomercals.
I'm sure others can give some feedback on positive interactions. I can give you a short list of some off the top of my head that I have dealt with in the past:


Sometimes they will allow for pickup, which can save on shipping, if you're close enough. Do research, compare and contrast many websites and check reviews, but I never had any trouble with either of the two above. I've used Gainesville off and on for over 10 years, their geographic proximity is how I discovered them initially. I haven't checked any of their inventory or offerings in a couple of years now though, but I know last time I ordered something significant from GainesvilleCoins, there was a large delay for delivery (but it wasn't unexpected and it was advertised as being such), don't know if that's still going on but doubt supply has become less constrained in the intervening years.
 
So Silver massive shortage of the real stuff and historically surpressed.

Can see it going to $50-60 no sweat.

Many saying it should be over $100
 
Been buying 100oz of silver in bullion per year since the early 00s up till 2020 being my last year, thinking about restarting that yearly ritual.
Felt like yesterday I was getting it around ten an ounce so yeah, I can see it hitting a hundred+ just by the natural inflationary trend in our lifetimes.
Fiscal irresponsibility/out of control spending/interest and industrial demands ramping up will certainly make it happen sooner.
 
I'm curious if folks think that a silver or gold coin could/would ever be used as actual physical currency by anyone other than a PM dealer. I don't think anyone really knows what these coins or PM chips looks like, how to verify them, or what their actual value should be. Maybe it is different in other parts of the world outside the US? Could you really buy your way across Africa or through South America with gold and silver coins, versus trying to trade them for local currency at some PM dealer?
 
Silver still rising but gold is at its all time high! Up $46 so far today.

I'm curious if folks think that a silver or gold coin could/would ever be used as actual physical currency by anyone other than a PM dealer. I don't think anyone really knows what these coins or PM chips looks like, how to verify them, or what their actual value should be. Maybe it is different in other parts of the world outside the US? Could you really buy your way across Africa or through South America with gold and silver coins, versus trying to trade them for local currency at some PM dealer?
They will be in sates that have just passed legal tender laws for them but, while not a coin, have you heard of gold backs? They're bills infused with a tiny amount of gold and are accepted by participating retailers in certain states already.


Here's a good video. Stock market and housing market in largest bubbles ever. Publically listed stocks are worth more than 2Xs the US economy right now. NASDAQ is valued at 145% of the entire US M2 money supply!!

 
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Silver still rising but gold is at its all time high! Up $46 so far today.


They will be in sates that have just passed legal tender laws for them but, while not a coin, have you heard of gold backs? They're bills infused with a tiny amount of gold and are accepted by participating retailers in certain states already.


Here's a good video. Stock market and housing market in largest bubbles ever. Publically listed stocks are worth more than 2Xs the US economy right now. NASDAQ is valued at 145% of the entire US M2 money supply!!


Really thought people would be interested in talking about how overvalued the stock market is right now.

If you ask me, it's scarey as hell because most people have their retirements and wealth invested in it. Not saying you should be scared of the market itself, but it should make one ponder diversification.

Today silver shot up but gold is slightly down. Sometimes I wish I could do more but one ounce a month is better than nothing.
 
Really thought people would be interested in talking about how overvalued the stock market is right now.

If you ask me, it's scarey as hell because most people have their retirements and wealth invested in it. Not saying you should be scared of the market itself, but it should make one ponder diversification.

Today silver shot up but gold is slightly down. Sometimes I wish I could do more but one ounce a month is better than nothing.
The reality is that precious metals have been sidelined and the mind of many. Rest assured, the market will be correcting that lack of mental attentiveness in due time.

As far as silver, I surely do think it is poised for a very large jump considering how much it has lagged in relation to Gold's recent moves. I think we are at the beginning of a long-term bull market unlike any other due to geoeconomic conditions. Further, while gold has been hitting all time highs, silver is still some distance from its all-time high. This is one of the reasons I believe that it will be quite bombastic whence it decides.
 
The reality is that precious metals have been sidelined and the mind of many. Rest assured, the market will be correcting that lack of mental attentiveness in due time.

As far as silver, I surely do think it is poised for a very large jump considering how much it has lagged in relation to Gold's recent moves. I think we are at the beginning of a long-term bull market unlike any other due to geoeconomic conditions. Further, while gold has been hitting all time highs, silver is still some distance from its all-time high. This is one of the reasons I believe that it will be quite bombastic whence it decides.
Yes, I believe people will pay attention when the dollar goes even lower which won't take long.

Silver is FAR from all time highs inflation adjusted. $50 in 1980 was a lot of money. If the gold to silver ratio hit historic levels of 15 to 1, it'd be well over $200. I don't see that anytime soon but $60-70? Could be there in a year or two.

Silver just hit $42!
 
Just bought into some shares of GLDM last week. I think this is the play long term. It will be a nice hedge for inflation and downturns in the market for my portfolio.
 


Bartering with silver at a farmer's market. When faith in the dollar is lost, this is how we will have to barter.

The US stock market is fine. Gold is going up due to central banks from across the world buying it up.
Well looking at statistics like it being valued more than 2X the US economy and being propped up essentially by seven tech companies makes me think there are problems that need fixing. I'm not saying it's going to implode or anything.
 



Bartering with silver at a farmer's market. When faith in the dollar is lost, this is how we will have to barter.


Well looking at statistics like it being valued more than 2X the US economy and being propped up essentially by seven tech companies makes me think there are problems that need fixing. I'm not saying it's going to implode or anything.

Yeah, I agree that there are some problems with the U.s. economy, but there always has been and always will be. Gold is a good investment though. I've been making a killing on Agnico eagle.
 
Physical silver over $43 spot today, paper silver crested $39 - made great profit on some short term options. Closed 75% of the position, holding the remainder as "okay if incinerated" capital gamble for next week. Silver continues to tear upwards and we are still almost 25% away yet from the peak that followed the "Great Financial Crisis". Still firmly believe that it's going to absolutely rip at some point in the relatively near future.
 
Physical silver over $43 spot today, paper silver crested $39 - made great profit on some short term options. Closed 75% of the position, holding the remainder as "okay if incinerated" capital gamble for next week. Silver continues to tear upwards and we are still almost 25% away yet from the peak that followed the "Great Financial Crisis". Still firmly believe that it's going to absolutely rip at some point in the relatively near future.
It's still very far from its inflation adjusted high which I believe is somewhere around $190. Gold reached and surpassed its inflation adjusted high this year which just a year ago I didn't think would happen anytime soon.

I can see $50+ silver by the end of the year and maybe even triple digit in a few years time but you never know. If it does it does, if it goes down, it goes down but I don't think that's likely.

Fiat, I feel, is at its end. It mathematically cannot continue much longer with it being parabolic. Something has to change and I hope they don't try to screw us over when we go to a new monetary system.
 
It's still very far from its inflation adjusted high which I believe is somewhere around $190. Gold reached and surpassed its inflation adjusted high this year which just a year ago I didn't think would happen anytime soon.

I can see $50+ silver by the end of the year and maybe even triple digit in a few years time but you never know. If it does it does, if it goes down, it goes down but I don't think that's likely.

Definitely - I've agreed before, but I see triple digit silver much sooner on the horizon than a few years, but as you say, no one can know the future, but I'm planning as if that's what's happening.

Fiat, I feel, is at its end. It mathematically cannot continue much longer with it being parabolic.
I'd say it already is, or in the early stages of going parabolic. 2020 printing spree was the final nail in the coffin - it was already a matter of time, but now I think the writing is on the wall and flashing neon. Combine this with geopolitical errors of unimaginable magnitude, such as continued weaponization of the USD (such as freezing Russia's reserve assets, continued SWIFT warfare, etc), the game can only go on so much longer. But as always, the market can remain irrational longer than one can stay solvent, so predicting that actual moment is impossible.

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Something has to change and I hope they don't try to screw us over when we go to a new monetary system.
I think that's the one thing you can guarantee. :messenger_grinning_sweat:
 
Sorry, haven't gotten around to updating the first post. I will try to add stuff soon.

This guy speculates that we will have triple digit silver soon. This guy is the one who made the, "Hidden Secrets of Money" mini series documentary and it is really good. I would recommend watching it if you haven't yet.


44.4 right now, pretty crazy how fast it is going up.

 
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He's a perma bull, but regardless, he's 100% right - triple digit silver sooner than most would expect.
Very true, but he does back his speculation with data. He isn't just a guy who is bullish with no reasoning like many I see online.

Either way it matters not to me, I'm just using it as insurance on an emergency fund and if I don't need it, it will go to my kids when I pass on.
 
Only 16 cents from $46 right now!! *edit* above $46 an ounce now for silver!

Here's a good interview with the CEO of Sound Money Defense League.
 
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Silver broke out past $47 and gold is well over $3800 today. Silver got hammered down 20 cents to $46.80 currently but still up 72 cents. Kinda unreal to see silver so high. We are nearing nominal all time highs but still no where near inflation adjusted highs.

Mario from Maneco64 has a theory that it isn't so much a bull run in metals as it is a bear market for fiat currency.

 
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Wonder if today could be the day we pop 50 USD for spot silver...? Coming soon! Awesome rally. I've been expecting this trade for almost ten years now.. wild to see it come to fruition. Implications aren't ideal, though.
 
Wonder if today could be the day we pop 50 USD for spot silver...? Coming soon! Awesome rally. I've been expecting this trade for almost ten years now.. wild to see it come to fruition. Implications aren't ideal, though.
Just got HAMMERED! Down below $47. I think it will pop back up but it briefly hit $48 and I don't think it'll hit that again today but it seems they are losing control over the manipulation.
 
Just got HAMMERED! Down below $47. I think it will pop back up but it briefly hit $48 and I don't think it'll hit that again today but it seems they are losing control over the manipulation.
Their attempt to tank it didn't work, back up and higher than it was. Went down nearly $2 an ounce and now $48.12
 


My favorite channel for understanding how things are going economically. Mario has a great grasp on things due to his knowledge of monetary theory.

The real conversation here starts 14:40, if you want to skip ahead. It's long but worth a listen.

Gold is less than $40 away from $4000 an ounce! Silver 29 cents from $49 and getting very close to all time nominal highs. We had the highest monthly close out in September too. Highest weekly close ever as well. Gold has outperformed every asset this year. Way better than the stock market and even better than crypto as of now.
 
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My favorite channel for understanding how things are going economically. Mario has a great grasp on things due to his knowledge of monetary theory.

The real conversation here starts 14:40, if you want to skip ahead. It's long but worth a listen.

Gold is less than $40 away from $4000 an ounce! Silver 29 cents from $49 and getting very close to all time nominal highs. We had the highest monthly close out in September too. Highest weekly close ever as well. Gold has outperformed every asset this year. Way better than the stock market and even better than crypto as of now.

I'm not convinced we are quite at the precipice yet, but good video - I watched it yesterday.

Either way, these consistent periods of consolidation allow for moves much higher in the near term - I'm very curious as to if we just shred through 50 or what, exactly, will happen. I'm pretty confident we won't see those artificially low prices in silver ever again, ie below 35 at the current range, the jig is up.
 
I'm not convinced we are quite at the precipice yet, but good video - I watched it yesterday.

Either way, these consistent periods of consolidation allow for moves much higher in the near term - I'm very curious as to if we just shred through 50 or what, exactly, will happen. I'm pretty confident we won't see those artificially low prices in silver ever again, ie below 35 at the current range, the jig is up.
Yeah who knows. They tried to hammer silver again today but it's going back up and even with big drops, it has higher lows. Could keep going down but with silver deficits and inflation it won't last.
Gold futures (paper) cross 4,000 USD for the first time in history..!

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Crazy! Silver got hammered down but gold was unaffected and kept rising.
 
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