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Metroid: Other M Storyline Thread - SPOILER ZONE
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Kai Dracon
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Bizzyb said:
I've always had the idea that the eventual resolution of Samus' post-Fusion condition would involve in some way a return of the Chozo, whether they're supposed to be extinct or not. Seems unlikely that anyone would think it's a good idea to leave Samus a freaky part-Metroid cyborg forever. And that she'd never get her true armor back.
So I'd imagine Metroid 5, let us say, being about Samus confronting the corruption in the Galactic Federation. It could have new villains; the "Metroid" title could be justified by the fact that Samus /is/ the Metroid in a sense - perhaps Samus would /be/ the target of a hunt or a bounty. She has the last trace of Metroid DNA and so they want her to keep breeding Metroids. She could just kill herself, fly into a sun, to keep it out of the hands of conspirators; but that seems unlikey for Samus. She'd choose to fight.
So, I'd strongly suspect the deux ex machina they'd whip out to resolve the situation would be the return of the Chozo who would have the technology to restore Samus and cleanse her of Metroid DNA. In a sense, it could be framed to bring the entire story full circle - Samus returns to the Chozo after having fulfilled her mission of saving the galaxy and such.
Could also be an interesting transition into a new sort of post-Metroid game series using Samus - why assume she remains a bounty hunter forever? What if, say, she returns to the Chozo (or equivalent) and after being restored to her true self, works for or with them? In the grand plot arc that could be worked out, Samus' bounty hunter stage, and the Metroid stage of the story, wouldn't be the end-all, just one part of the cycle.
I could see this whole idea offending people who want to play Space Bounty Hunter Samus going into mazes to find Metroids forever, but whatever
Shin Johnpv
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Except Sakamoto has said that when she absorbs the core-x that was SA-X her DNA is restored to it's original non-metroid having state. So there's no Metroid DNA in her any more.
Sir Ilpalazzo
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strx said:
Mudkips said:
I wonder, was it really Ridley who was controlling them? By the end of the game, I thought it was Melissa, since she served the same purpose as Mother Brain.
What I'm really wondering now is this - is this the same Ridley from before? Obviously this is a clone and not the body that Samus fought in the original, Prime 1 and 3, and Super, but does this Ridley have the memories of the original?
And how did Ridley survive Prime 3? I admit I haven't played that, but from what I saw his body was completely destroyed after you defeat Omega Ridley. Am I misinterpreting something, or is the Super Metroid Ridley a clone too?
He explodes in Metroid 1. Rebuilt as cyborg Meta-Ridley for Prime series. Explodes again. Rebuilt. Infected by Phazon. Turns into Omega Ridley. Omega Ridley decimated by Samus. Comes back in Super as normal Ridley. Crumbles apart into missiles and health power ups. Whatever remnants are left of him are annihilated as Zebes explodes. Resurrected from DNA found on Samus's suit as Little Birdy in Other M. Reaches level 16 and evolves into Googly Eye Ridley. Reaches level 32 and evolves into regular Ridley. Is literally mutilated by Samus. Sits in a corner to gather himself. Drained by Metroid Queen. Husk recovered by Federation and stored in big freezer. Infected by X parasites. Disintegrates. Reborn as Ridley X. Body is destroyed, and then essence absorbed by Samus. So that's where he is now. Inside Samus.Sir Ilpalazzo said:
Honestly I feel bad for him. Consider what he's been through.
Shin Johnpv
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Sir Ilpalazzo said:
I would say Crunched nailed it pretty perfectly. I would just add to it that the version that comes back in Super could possibly be a clone. Since it would seem Ridley has genetic memory. Plus we know the Space Pirates must have some kind of cloning technology as we have mini Kraid in Super. Plus you have Kraid being killed in Original/Zero Mission but returning in Super.
I'd say it goes something like this. Original/Zero Mission Ridley gets f'ed up by Samus, as we see in Zero Mission the Space Pirates have also been working on a robotic version of him, but it's not finished. Samus blows that to kingdom come. The Space Pirates take what remains of the robot Ridley and the real Ridley and make the cyborg we know and love as Meta-Ridley.
Meta-Ridley gets his ass handed to him by Samus in Prime 1, thankfully though he's more machine now than .....ummm purple beast, and they can save him. They decide to experiment with some phazon infusions as well and Omega-Ridley is born. He then gets his ass handed to him like it was nothing by Samus.
At this point, there really isn't much left except some splatters on the wall. The Space Pirates clone him, and due to his genetic memory he remembers it all. Samus then sits this clone down and has a stern talking to it, just her, Ridley and some super missles and red hot plasma beam. All that is left of Ridley is some splatter on Samus' suit.
Thus step in the wonderful Galactic Federation who finds this splatter and Ridley clone number 2 is born. After a moment of WTF Samus teaches Ridley a new meaning for the world rape. An emotionally and physically destroyed Ridley balls up into a corner and begins crying himself to sleep. That's when the good old Queen Metroid finds him, and turns him into lunch. The GF find his husk, and put it into deep freeze for who knows what damned reason.
The X-parisites find this husk and they become their own Ridley. I don't know what this means for his actual genetics/genetic memory and such. Have to wait for Sakamoto to figure that one out.
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so bioweapons and lesbian ai
Prime Blue
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That was basically the vibe I got off of the ending with Melissa dying and all. :lol
Stallion Free
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I liked a lot of the elements in the story in Other M (cliche as most of them were), but goddamnit Sakamoto did a poor job weaving them together. Also, I don't like Samus as a pussy bitch. I want her cold and removed. Ridley killed her parents so lets see her go into a rage at the sight of him (especially since she has killed him before). Let's get Samus shoving her suit cannon into Ridley's mouth and blowing away his head. Also, fuck listening to Adam. You are a bounty hunter, turn off your suit link so that he can't see that you are using your upgrades.
Haunted
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That's nice attention to detail.Green Mamba said:Just in case anyone is still doubting that James was the Deleter:
The Deleter is depicted with the number 07 on his helmet as slightly faded. James is the only one of the platoon who also has a faded number 07 on his helmet.
So, yeah.
Sir Ilpalazzo
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Crunched said:
No, I know what happened to Ridley in most of the games. I was wondering if he actually survived Metroid Prime 3 or if he was cloned, which John addressed. Personally, I think it kind of takes away from the impact if he was already cloned in Super Metroid, making Prime 3 his first real death.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Stallion Free said:
The thing about the complaints over Samus being a pussy and the suggestion she should have just told Adam FU is... how is it any better for Samus to be portrayed as a generic anti-hero "bad cop" who never follows orders, yet somehow always gets contracts from the feds and has a good feedback rating on her eBay page?
While there are many ways Samus following orders could have been portrayed, the basic concept was always sound, and also, still remains a good idea on how to handle Metroid upgrade gameplay without using the same trope over and over. (Samus trips on a rock, cracks helmet, and drops all her powerups.)
Anyway, the funny thought I had was in the middle of all the arguing over Samus having a personality and Ridley, by far the most interesting development in Other M's plot is Melissa. That's the real twist of the story and while it may not be the most original idea or twist, I'm pretty sure the intent is for it to form the backbone of future Metroid storylines.
Because basically, Other M is an origin story for the new form of Mother Brain - complete with justifications on why MB would hate all humans and the Galactic Federation. It even gave her powers of Zebesian lifeforms, massive TK and TP abilities, and pretty much sets her up as Samus' new nemesis above and beyond Ridley or just Metroids as a species. I can pretty much predict we'll see, if this storyline is followed through, MB repaired and experimented on by the feds only to escape and become a galactic super criminal. She'll probably try to set up bio labs in secret locations to breed Zebesian lifeforms for her army. MB breeding an army to conquer the entire galaxy would probably be a basic choice for the plot of a Metroid 5 or Other M 2 - whatever.
While not the most original plot development as stated, it's still a fairly large injection of story material into the Metroid universe.
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It's called earning character development, something Sakamoto has little concept of. Add that to the list already populated by 'how to write noninvasive exposition' and we have a solid New Years resolution list for the big guy.Kaijima said:
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tomjenkins said:
The timeline of Metroid split after Mother Brain died the first time or some shit.
The Crash of the Titan on Aether created two universes. The Prime series occurs in the universe with the good Aether while the one that doesn't take the Prime games into account occur in the Dark Aether universe.
It's just a coincidence that Metroid II, Super Metroid, Other M, and Fusion all had similar events in both universes.
It's just a coincidence that Metroid II, Super Metroid, Other M, and Fusion all had similar events in both universes.
Nuclear Muffin
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The Metroid Prime series was always its own self contained series and it officially takes place between Metroid 1/ZM and 2 (Of course it's bloody canon. Metroid Zero Mission's extra content was written to tie into Metroid Prime on purpose - Having Samus as the "Hunter" killing off all the Space Pirates and Meta Ridley's appearance attest to that)
As for Samus saying that this she only takes orders from Adam and having this contradict Metroid Prime 3, it still makes sense if you consider that Samus wasn't really taking orders from Admiral Dane so much as following guidance and helping out the GF troops of her own volition (the key difference being that Dane placed no weapon/item restrictions on Samus and didn't force Samus to go in a specific direction)
Anyway, I really enjoyed the story. Â There were some great plot twists (baby Ridley, Madeline Bergman turning out to be a fake etc) but I do have one issue. Â The plot twist about the Metroid cloning effectively ruins Metroid Fusion's own twist since that game is now effectively MOM part two.
I do like that we don't actually see Adam self destruct sector zero (so he could've taken the Metroids to BSL before dying). This ties in well with Nightmare (I definitely didn't see that one coming!
) and Ridley being taken away to BSL (Having Ridley frozen in exactly the same position as in Fusion was a fantastic little touch as well! )
Great game! Â But I still really want to see Metroid 5!
As for Samus saying that this she only takes orders from Adam and having this contradict Metroid Prime 3, it still makes sense if you consider that Samus wasn't really taking orders from Admiral Dane so much as following guidance and helping out the GF troops of her own volition (the key difference being that Dane placed no weapon/item restrictions on Samus and didn't force Samus to go in a specific direction)
Anyway, I really enjoyed the story. Â There were some great plot twists (baby Ridley, Madeline Bergman turning out to be a fake etc) but I do have one issue. Â The plot twist about the Metroid cloning effectively ruins Metroid Fusion's own twist since that game is now effectively MOM part two.
I do like that we don't actually see Adam self destruct sector zero (so he could've taken the Metroids to BSL before dying). This ties in well with Nightmare (I definitely didn't see that one coming!
) and Ridley being taken away to BSL (Having Ridley frozen in exactly the same position as in Fusion was a fantastic little touch as well! )Great game! Â But I still really want to see Metroid 5!
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