SCULLIBUNDO
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Seems like Bay and a bunch of people in this thread have awful comprehension skills.
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Michael Bay responds to Hugo Weaving
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Count Dookkake
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I am glad that Weaving's words hurt Bay.
Karsticles
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You can thank public schools.
Warm Machine
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Directors and actors have pretty different levels of engagement. An actor shows up for their part in a film, spends the month on set and in front of the camera, gets paid loads of money, then fucks off until it is time to promote the film where they fly around the world attending parties and press junkets.
The director on the other hand does all the preproduction, production, and post production work. They live, sleep, eat, breath, the film for 18 hours a day. Sometimes for up to two years.
Then a director gets paid 1/5th what an actor does. I can imagine that a guy like Michael Bay is reasonably resentful that there is a performer out there feeling unsatisfied about their part(s) in his film when it makes up a fractional portion of the film as a whole. Seriously, how many movies are big productions like the Transformers films? Not a whole damn many.
The director on the other hand does all the preproduction, production, and post production work. They live, sleep, eat, breath, the film for 18 hours a day. Sometimes for up to two years.
Then a director gets paid 1/5th what an actor does. I can imagine that a guy like Michael Bay is reasonably resentful that there is a performer out there feeling unsatisfied about their part(s) in his film when it makes up a fractional portion of the film as a whole. Seriously, how many movies are big productions like the Transformers films? Not a whole damn many.
I'm pretty sure Bay made more money than Weaving with Transformers.
Warm Machine
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I didn't say he didn't. I know Bay doesn't make 200k for a couple hours work. I'd be surprised if he used to make 200k for a commercial directing gig.
Dreams-Visions
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Damn, Bay comes off as a straight-up dickhead.
Hugo didn't say anything wrong. He just discussed how unattached to the project he was and how much he regrets not having met the director and other actors in the project along the way. How odd it feels to be so involved in a project (voicing the most important villain) while simultaneously not being involved at all. No relationships made. No stories swapped between peers. Just 2 hours of voice and out. He didn't slam the job or the project and went out of his way to make that clear.
"Thank you. The next film will be even bigger!"
I get the feeling people read the bolded text and not the non-bolded text.
Context.
I mean really. How did you derive that from his full comments? Or are you a "I only read the bold text" kinda guy?
Hugo didn't say anything wrong. He just discussed how unattached to the project he was and how much he regrets not having met the director and other actors in the project along the way. How odd it feels to be so involved in a project (voicing the most important villain) while simultaneously not being involved at all. No relationships made. No stories swapped between peers. Just 2 hours of voice and out. He didn't slam the job or the project and went out of his way to make that clear.
"Thank you. The next film will be even bigger!"
I get the feeling people read the bolded text and not the non-bolded text.
Context.
I mean really. How did you derive that from his full comments? Or are you a "I only read the bold text" kinda guy?
Seeing as Bay and awful comprehension go hand in hand I don't know what else I expected.
Weaving really did nothing wrong but tell the truth.
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Well said Michael Bay.
Mammoth Jones
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Completely agree with Bay on this one.
Reminds me of this classic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPIzLPx6T-U&feature=related
Reminds me of this classic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPIzLPx6T-U&feature=related
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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I think half the people in this thread are trolling.
Either that, or it's incredibly easy to tell who read the actual interview with Weaving.
Either that, or it's incredibly easy to tell who read the actual interview with Weaving.
gutter_trash
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boo to Weaving for not being Frank Welker
boo to Bay for not picking Frank Welker
boo to Bay for not picking Frank Welker
Hugo Weaving agrees with you (aside from the first sentence). Did you even read what he said?
Dirtyshubb
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As much of a fan of Weaving as i am, the part that really did make me lose respect for him was in regards to Red Skull.
I can understand him not liking the make up but im sure he was paid a very nice sum of money to compensate for that.
But he then says that he is contracted to do more but he wont and they wont want to force him because he would be uncooperative in around about way. He signed a contract. He isn't a slave who is forced to work for nothing, he had a lawyer look over the paperwork and agree to more than fair terms im sure.
That makes him look very unprofessional and really made me think differently about Weaving.
I can understand him not liking the make up but im sure he was paid a very nice sum of money to compensate for that.
But he then says that he is contracted to do more but he wont and they wont want to force him because he would be uncooperative in around about way. He signed a contract. He isn't a slave who is forced to work for nothing, he had a lawyer look over the paperwork and agree to more than fair terms im sure.
That makes him look very unprofessional and really made me think differently about Weaving.
I thought about this again and I know now what my main gripe with Weaving's words is. And that is the fact that he says that it was all meaningless to him, but god damn, he got paid 200.000 dollars for this! Are those 200.000 dollars meaningless as well? Look, I appreciate his honesty. But fuck that. Sometimes it's better to remain silent.
If you like a film and the job and you get the money, fine. If you don't like your attachment to it, or feel otherwise that it is meaningless to you, then do it if you want the money, but shut up about it.
If you like a film and the job and you get the money, fine. If you don't like your attachment to it, or feel otherwise that it is meaningless to you, then do it if you want the money, but shut up about it.
Agreed. Guy is a complete cunt.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Now we have people calling Weaving a cunt. Nuke this thread from orbit. Some of you are beyond saving.
Mammoth Jones
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This is absolutely correct. There's nothing "wrong" with Weaving with being a whiny pretentious snob.
Then again there's nothing wrong with Bay calling him out for it either
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It seems thing have gotten a bit out of hand.
It probably is meaningless for him. That's kinda the point. He tried it, didn't like it and probably won't do such a job again even if it's quick and easy money.
If you people define others by some shitty action or comment they made in one or two ocasions, I really hope no one commits the crime of being human and flawed around you both.
Everyone is a cunt and a whiny bitch occasionally.
Wow is Bay upset over that.
It's not Weaving's fault that your movies are shit, dude. But hey feel free to play those populist cards that actually run against everything you are.
It's pretty insulting that Michael Bay of all people wants to lean on my fucking shoulder and bitch about "them stuck up actors". Fuck off, dude and maybe if you didn't make your movies like factory productions you wouldn't have people talking this shit about you.
Also I hope none of you complain about Weaving's complaining because there are children starving in africa right now.
STARVING.
IN AFRICA.
Devolution
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Actors have to like and talk up every role they've ever done because of their pay check otherwise they're just selfish wankers.
Mammoth Jones
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DiscoPower
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Hugo really weaved his way into this one.
Femmeworth
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Dear Mr. Bay,
Sincerely,
Femmeworth
Sincerely,
Femmeworth
SCULLIBUNDO
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Except that he wasn't whining at all. It seems that you and a bunch of other posters have very poor reading comprehension.
What the actual.... did you even read what he said.... should we even care?
There barely was an experience. Dude shows up to the recording studio in his sweatpants, says a couple lines into a microphone "while doing other things" and admittedly phoning in his performance, then walks out the door $200k richer in less than two hours.
Every single person in this thread (and the vast majority of voice actors that lost out on the job to Weaving) would kill to be given that same opportunity.
Huevos de Oro
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Nothing wrong with what Elrond said. Bay's just being a douche lord about it. Fuck him up the ass with fat rolls of $100 bills.
LegendofJoe
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The fact that there are actors out there being paid $100k for an hours worth of work is proof that we still have a loooong ways to go as a society.
Professor Beef
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Viral marketing for Operation: Dumbo Drop 2.
I dont get the Bay hate. The man is racking millions and millions making action flicks and kids movies (like transformers) that is loved by kids around the world. He makes big mainstream summer movies stuff. That's his trademark. People who want deep movies should look somewhere else, they are not his public.
It's like going to McDonald and complaining that the food is not classy. Ffs, you're eating at McDonald! Its for kids!
It's like going to McDonald and complaining that the food is not classy. Ffs, you're eating at McDonald! Its for kids!
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