Professor Beef
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Nobody is complaining about the "classiness" of his movies. They're complaining about the quality. Even Disney movies and the like have a standard that they abide by.
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Michael Bay responds to Hugo Weaving
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Nobody is complaining about the "classiness" of his movies. They're complaining about the quality. Even Disney movies and the like have a standard that they abide by.
Well, this situation is like someone going to work for McDonald's and saying in an interview later "I worked there a couple of times. The work wasn't really fulfilling but the money was ok. It was a bit of a strange work environment, I don't think I'll work there again" and then Ronald McDonald goes on a rant about elephants and how people should be happy they have a job at a respectable family restaurant.
TUROK
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It's nothing like this. Hugo is saying things like "oh, I never do movies like these, where I'm not personally invested in them. I prefer doing stuff that actually means something to me," yet he did the three movies.
Sickboy007
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Weaving's argument kinda falls apart after he's done 3 of these things in a row. If he was so disgusted by himself, he could have stopped first.
Or are they just reusing his lines from the first movie? I wouldn't put it past Bay.
Or are they just reusing his lines from the first movie? I wouldn't put it past Bay.
Hey strawman, I missed you. Its not that hard to do a decent a summer blockbuster.
I could go on almost forever. But hey, it is for kids, so why should we care about quality. We already don´t do this when it comes to food (according to you), so why caring about what they see.
" I never really met Bay or was into the project " falls apart when you did 3 of these things? How so?
TUROK
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SCULLIBUNDO
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Is English your second language?
Weaving isn't arguing anything.
TUROK
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It actually is, but if you're going to insult me, be sure you actually bothered to read what I said. Where did I say or even imply that Weaving is arguing something?
Anticitizen One
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He voiced several characters in transformers 2 and 3
Femmeworth
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Now that people mention it, Weaving's story doesn't add up.
SCULLIBUNDO
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If you go back to the posts you're quoting, you'll see that a poster was talking about Weaving's argument falling apart, which is what the poster you quoted was replying to.
Well, he's worked a total of 5.5 hours or so, if you take 1.75 hours to be the average. That's like working one short shift at a new job.
Regardless, it's just an opinion he gave about the process as it relates to him when asked a question in an interview. He never once knocked the movie.
Perhaps he should have said "I did an amazing 2 hours of dialogue for Transformers. I felt such an emotional attachment to my coffee machine after doing it. It changed my life."
(edit) I'm sure he loved the money and perhaps he donated some or all of it to charity - we don't know. That doesn't mean he's not allowed to have an opinion on something.
Mammoth Jones
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He is whining. He signed a contract but doesn't want to continue despite a great salary and is venting publicly about it.
That is the very definition of whining about first world problems.
"Oh fiddlesticks, you know that last job was such a bore. I don't want to do more and complete my contract and get fabulous money for doing so!"
TUROK
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Then that person misspoke. It's a statement rather than an argument. Still, doesn't make that person's statement (argument?) invalid. If you're talking about your artistic integrity yet do three of these movies, it does not add up.
Nobody is saying he's not allowed to have an opinion. If people were, they'd be hypocrites because Bay is stating his opinion as well.
If you're gonna state your opinion, you have to be ready for that opinion to meet scrutiny... And be dissected by people on the internet who like arguing about things.
I kept waiting for Sentinel to merge with Megs and form Galvatron but that would have been too awesome and made too much sense.
faceless007
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ITT actors who don't do jobs solely for the money but care about the artistic integrity behind them are whiners.
I think there's another word for those who do a job solely for the money, and it isn't "actor."
Anticitizen One
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You know whats weird. The first Transformers movie is actually pretty good...its no classic or anything but its entertaining and decent without going overboard and it had a cool action packed finale. I don't understand why Bay went full retard with the sequels.
Weaving if anything was actually castigating himself for not caring about the job he was given, and he was just ultimately speaking honestly. Actors are frequently accused of just cashing a check for whatever tripe, and here Weaving is fully admitting to it, and isn't proud of the fact.
Mammoth Jones
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Um, in this economy? Yea guy....
He wouldn't be doing it for free, would he.....
Im still baffled why they hired him for megatron. People wont notice thats hugo weaving's voice anyway. Oh and they didnt even need to use his name on posters or trailers. Giant ass robots sells.
This.
This too.
Also this. I've read Weaving's comment 3 times now and he's not crapping on the movies, he's being sincere about how he feels about it.
KittenMaster
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I would feel the same way under those conditions which are pretty much set up to ensure that he has as that kind of detachment. If anything his honesty gives him a lot more self-integrity than he's being given credit for.
Michael Bay, although he makes a point that actors should be more thankful for their pay, I don't think it actually applies here and he seems like the actual whiny one of the two. IMO I think that just because you get paid well doesn't mean that you can't talk about your experiences obtaining the money. I'm sure if he was asked what he did with the pay he got you would get a much more positive answer.
Michael Bay, although he makes a point that actors should be more thankful for their pay, I don't think it actually applies here and he seems like the actual whiny one of the two. IMO I think that just because you get paid well doesn't mean that you can't talk about your experiences obtaining the money. I'm sure if he was asked what he did with the pay he got you would get a much more positive answer.
Boss Doggie
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What's hilarious (I guess) is that Bay somehow is making himself look like the "voice" of the masses. Ugh.
Yeah, I actually appreciate the honesty here. Bay being himself just doesnt and wont "get it".
Except he likely can't because he signed a contract before the first movie. Which he could break if he REALLY wanted to not have a career in hollywood anymore.
Extra Sauce
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I hate Michael Bay but I have to admit, that was a masterful burn.
TUROK
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That's not stopping him from wanting to break his contract with Marvel.
Devolution
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Is there something wrong with an actor coming out and saying "yeah it's basically easy money and I'm whoring myself out but I'm not proud of it." Or do they have to stop cold turkey before they say anything about it?
He said he'll fulfill his contract if he's asked to, so what the fuck are you talking about?
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The Everyman
hmmm, if you put it that way it's not so bad.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Really if anything Bay sure knows how to make the masses root for him despite, when you analyze it, makes him more of a dick.
universalmind
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lol imagine if you went to see your favourite music act and afterwords they complained about having to perform for you and all their fans, then boasted about how little they put into it because they don't care.
Devolution
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I'd have to question anybody who thinks actors are putting their all in mediocre blockbuster schlock.
Boss Doggie
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You just compared a musical act to a Michael Bay film.
imagine you bought the latest copy of Now That's What I call Music! and an artist on it said he didn't really care for the compilation.
I don't see any issue with what Weaving said. He didn't day the movies suck or that Michael Bay is an asshole. He just said he has little connection to the franchise or films because his work was so distant. I can understand Bay being annoyed but his response is more negative than Weaving's honesty.
universalmind
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ya. Did you just call every piece of music ever written and performed a masterpiece?
I think a more apt analogy would be if at some later point they talked about being unenthusiastic in a certain show because of whatever reason. To which I don't think there should be much of a problem. To pretend every entertainer is having the time of their lives whenever their doing their work is crazy, and in this case has little to no impact on the movie itself.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Yeah, Weaving was just telling the truth. You get the feeling that Bay wanted him to like the work that he did, which is impossible if he actually doesn't.
He didn't say the film was shit.
He just said that he didn't feel anything for the job.
Orson Welles ftw.
HP_Wuvcraft
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.... how?
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