Sosokrates
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Yeah, I hope they get the help and support they need.
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Microsoft CEO: Xbox Series X|S Has Outsold PS5 in NA for 3 Qtrs in a Row. Sales tracking ahead of 360.
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Yeah, I hope they get the help and support they need.
Punished Miku
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You know, if Switch doesn't count since it's not next gen, and Series S doesn't count since its not next gen then we can say with confidence that Sony has won the console war forever.
No more need for further bloodshed. The war is over.
No more need for further bloodshed. The war is over.
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ManaByte
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You know, if Switch doesn't count since it's not next gen, and Series S doesn't count since its not next gen then we can say with confidence that Sony has won the console war forever.
No more need for further bloodshed. The war is over.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
solidus12
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I miss the Kutaragi / Hirai era
MScarpa
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Corrected me if I'm wrong, isn't NA the biggest market? It's been awhile since I've looked it up. Used to be anyways.
StreetsofBeige
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Exactly. Sony has been bragging (or not bragging) regarding corporate console wars forever. When PS2 dominated everything, they had no problem going on stage (look at Kaz with his big mouth) and telling the world. The second Wii took over, they then tried the "Sony Family of Products" lump sum of PS2, PS3 and PSP vs Wii which might had scrape up some wins 3 systems vs 1. Of course they left out DS.
And when Switch has been dominating for years, never compared against Nintendo ever again. Assuming Nintendo doesn't cut the cord on Switch for a Switch 2 in the next few years or Switch sales suddenly drop off a cliff, Switch should overtake PS2's 150M sales.
MisterXDTV
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Series S is literally half the price of a Series X right now
Nobody considers the RTX 3050 the same product of a RTX 3090 because they run the same software....
S and X share the same CPU, that's it.
The rest of the hardware specs are completely different
Even the storage space is HALF on Series S despite being an all-digital console
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StreetsofBeige
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Wii was a class below 360 and PS3 (it was barely better than a GC), yet everyone compares sales during that 2006-2012 gen when all 3 systems were battling it out at the same time.
RoadHazard
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Probably, but that still doesn't mean it's the only market that matters.
ManaByte
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It’s really the only market that matters when major publishers decide what will be their lead platform. That’s why the 360 was the lead platform for most games during that gen.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
That's pretty impressive. Not a good look for Jimbo though. Im sure he will blame it on covid and the chip shortage but MS was working with the same constraints. If anything Jimbo shouldve had more leverage in chip allocations when his previous console sold 120 million to 50 million Xbox Ones.
Maybe they are distributing their allocations more evenly in other territories. Still, if I went from 1st place to last place in a matter of 2 years, i would probably not be able to keep my job. Different standards for millionaire CEOs though.
Maybe they are distributing their allocations more evenly in other territories. Still, if I went from 1st place to last place in a matter of 2 years, i would probably not be able to keep my job. Different standards for millionaire CEOs though.
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ManaByte
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The chip shortage is pretty much over. But even when you get chips you still have to manufacture systems and get them to stores. Sony builds most of their stuff with Foxconn in China and with those areas being hard locked down, even if they have consoles produced they can’t get them on a container ship and get them to stores.
Both Nintendo and MS found a way around that by having other options for manufacturing.
thismeinteil
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For those in the know, the 360 started out relatively slow in terms of sales. MS said the XBO was outpacing it for awhile after launch, as well. We know how that turned out. It also seems their lead must not be by much, as his wording let's us know that the PS5 is still ahead LTD.
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Bernd Lauert
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Just so you understand why people are laughing at you, the Series X and the Series S have the exact same feature set with the exception of no 4K on the Series S. That's why, rightfully, everyone classifies them as the same category of product.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
That just means Jimbo is even more at fault. Thats like his main job as CEO.
DaGwaphics
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Hardly. There was only a 7 or 8 month gap in warranty coverage for the launch day machines and half the units were sold after the problem was already corrected.
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More people by third party games than first party. It's just a numbers thing. If all you care about is the newest thing, and playing the newest thing on the newest console because you aren't a PC gamer, the XBOX Series S is a hell of a deal. Like if someone wants to play the newest COD on hardware from this generation, why wouldn't they get an XSS when they could (can't find a PS5 and the XSX is the better machine but also more expensive and can't find that either).
DaGwaphics
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Topher
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Yep. I have Xbox for Game Pass so my drive doesn't get used like it does on PS5. I would have definitely opted for a XSX DE given the choice.
RoadHazard
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Uh, I really don't think that has much to do with it.
DonkeyPunchJr
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I don’t even own a Xbox Series but I’m still very happy to see it successful. Why? Basically any game on Xbox is also on PC day 1, plus all their first party stuff is on Gamepass. A win for Xbox is a win for PC gaming as well.
Love my PS5 too but basically any time a game comes out, I have to decide whether to play it now or to wait until I can play it with better performance on PC.
Love my PS5 too but basically any time a game comes out, I have to decide whether to play it now or to wait until I can play it with better performance on PC.
StreetsofBeige
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Some people buy consoles who just want an all in one entertainment hub even though they really have no focus.
My brother bought a PS3 Slim for that reason. He bought it thinking he'd get back into gaming, and it also serves dual function as a BR player.
He barely used it for either. When I'd visit his house, I'd play it with his kids more than he did.
mckmas8808
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So what happened to Microsoft not caring about hardware console sales?
Topher
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Pretty much. If SX was outselling PS5 overall in the US then that is certainly something Microsoft would highlight over only the last three quarters.
mckmas8808
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Kagey K
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It was during an investor call. They got a (rare) gaming question and answered it.
DaGwaphics
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IKR, it's not like they ran an op-ed in the NY times or something.
Topher
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No, it wasn't a question. It was part of Nadella's presentation.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
It 100% is NOT the only market that matters. Stop lying!
MisterXDTV
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Sooo......they care about hardware console sales then. And are you sure it was "just a question"?
sloppyjoe_gamer
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Healthy competition makes all the platforms do better, so this is good.
I'm not really seeing Sony fans in here acting like this is terrible, melting down, etc....like some of you are suggesting. You all are the ones derailing this thread by saying that they are.....just saying.
I'm not really seeing Sony fans in here acting like this is terrible, melting down, etc....like some of you are suggesting. You all are the ones derailing this thread by saying that they are.....just saying.
DaGwaphics
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Seems normal that he would point out that they were doing well. X1 had just about flat-lined by now, even if the trend reverses when things normalize completely, that's still a big boost from last gen.
Keep laughing, I am laughing even harder....
"SAME MACHINE"
I don't see anyone claiming they are the same machine. We laugh even harder now.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It was mentioned as a part of the earnings call, they need to appease the shareholders.
Kagey K
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My mistake.
ManaByte
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Keep laughing, I am laughing even harder....
"SAME MACHINE"
Both consoles have a Zen 2 CPU and a RDNA2 GPU. Trying to pretend that's not a next-generation spec is insanity.
RockOn
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They won't cos, Series SX is clearly not out selling PS5. Ther still a 5.5million gap that growing in favour of PS5if the consoles are outselling the playstation give us the numbers you motherfuckers
i need confirmation
ManaByte
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They lumped the PS4/PS4 Pro, the XBOS/XBOX, the Switch/Lite/OLED, the PS5/PS5DE, but as soon as the XSS/XSX is lumped together it's a problem.
Topher
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Yes, that's completely fine for a company to do, but it is still a bit weird considering Microsoft made a big deal downplaying console sales last gen.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It's funny how the rules change depending on if your preferred plastic vendor is being shown in a positive light or not
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MisterXDTV
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I don't care about what you consider next-gen or not.
I know for sure they are not comparable machines at all...
Bernd Lauert
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They have the exact same feature set aside from 4K. You're wrong.
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