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Microsoft Employee Inadvertently Adds More Fuel to the Xbox Multiplatform Fire

Cary Chen is Microsoft's director of game content in Asia, and the recent role change has seen him update his LinkedIn. However, he may have over-shared what his job involves; it previously said the portfolio range of games he looks after includes "Xbox Game Studios, Activision, Blizzard, Zenimax and Bethesda across PC, Xbox, PlayStation, Switch and Mobile". This has since been amended to remove mention of platforms entirely.

 

[Sushi_Combo]

 

[FinalBossWithTheMostPower]

 

[Wulfer]

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Everything

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Tbf, with the acquisition of ABK and COD and Overwatch 2, isn't that technically the case already?

 

[knguyen]

Mrxmedia and Tim dogs blood oxygen level can't handle this.

 

[Imtjnotu]

They should hire Jimbo

 

[twilo99]

Tbf, with the acquisition of ABK and COD and Overwatch 2, isn't that technically the case already?

Yes, Microsoft has been 3rd party for a long time, the craze is that they will expand their 3rd party catalog

 

[CamHostage]

Tbf, with the acquisition of ABK and COD and Overwatch 2, isn't that technically the case already?

Yes.
Was technically the case for anyone handling the Minecraft product line too.

Also, I often question some of these "boilerplate text" news bits, Maybe there's a way to track micro changes on LinkedIn but sometimes that text has been on there for a long time and just got mined for relevance to rumors. (If I'm reading the reports right, what was changed wasn't the text, it was the removal of the text after it was discovered. So platforms could have been there since 2022 or longer...)

But whatever, the situation will be clear in a week.

 

[bitbydeath]

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Yes, Microsoft has been 3rd party for a long time, the craze is that they will expand their 3rd party catalog

Sure, was just saying that I don't think this necessarily has to mean anything.

 

[NickFire]

Tbf, with the acquisition of ABK and COD and Overwatch 2, isn't that technically the case already?

Yes. This definitely would be true even if nothing happens.

 

[twilo99]

Sure, was just saying that I don't think this necessarily has to mean anything.

It means a lot to a large number of people it seems

 

[Represent.]

This confirms it

 

[bitbydeath]

Sure, was just saying that I don't think this necessarily has to mean anything.

Him immediately removing it kinda does.

 

[NickFire]

It means a lot to a large number of people it seems

You know, I suppose it’s a good question why he bothered to remove it.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Him immediately removing it kinda does.

True, don't get me wrong, I fully expect most rumors to be true.

It means a lot to a large number of people it seems

Fair enough.

Just think that will all the drama, people grasp at any straw. Lol

 

[Fatbody]

Did you know that Apple has a Windows version of iTunes? And Microsoft Word runs on macOS? These are crazy times we’re living in

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

at this point i dunno how some people could be on denial

 

[Clintizzle]

How can it be multi-platform if it doesn't include The Ouya.

Checkmate, Nutella.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Did you know that Apple has a Windows version of iTunes? And Microsoft Word runs on macOS? These are crazy times we’re living in

I love poor attempts at trying to conflate different scenarios in order to minimize this.

We're talking significantly different models, but let's take a look at both of the applications you mentioned.

Microsoft Word and the entire office suite runs like ass on MacOS. OneNote is especially worse on MacOS.

iTunes... which is really not relevant anymore is also severely limited on Windows when it came to managing apple hardware.

Now let's go to the heart of your argument. This idea that there is going to be largely a platform agnostic approach to things. This is largely true once hardware becomes ubiquitous and while we're closer than we were with the PS3/360 or PS2/Gamecube/Xbox but we're not there yet and it's a long road until we are. In the meantime we're going to see the formation of platforms as a service that will largely define the next stage of the industry.

Microsoft may become the largest 3rd party publisher, which will position itself to pivot as a platform holder in the future, but Nintendo, Sony, and Valve will have a significant advantage over them, because it can't just be games, it has to be ecosystem, otherwise every publisher will create their own service and platforms.

Sony has a significant advantage over Microsoft in nearly every regard for the future. They can easily put PlayStation Streaming on every TV they manufacture for no cost. They're going to have the only premium video game console on the market which will make them synonymous with gaming. They'll eventually put out a handheld and a PC launcher (probably going further to include MacOS)

Their controllers are going to be synonymous with gaming, so when someone wants to buy a controller for their TV to stream... it's going to be a dual sense or dual sense knock off.

So, it's a big deal.

 

[Damigos]

I love poor attempts at trying to conflate different scenarios in order to minimize this.

We're talking significantly different models, but let's take a look at both of the applications you mentioned.

Microsoft Word and the entire office suite runs like ass on MacOS. OneNote is especially worse on MacOS.

iTunes... which is really not relevant anymore is also severely limited on Windows when it came to managing apple hardware.

Now let's go to the heart of your argument. This idea that there is going to be largely a platform agnostic approach to things. This is largely true once hardware becomes ubiquitous and while we're closer than we were with the PS3/360 or PS2/Gamecube/Xbox but we're not there yet and it's a long road until we are. In the meantime we're going to see the formation of platforms as a service that will largely define the next stage of the industry.

Microsoft may become the largest 3rd party publisher, which will position itself to pivot as a platform holder in the future, but Nintendo, Sony, and Valve will have a significant advantage over them, because it can't just be games, it has to be ecosystem, otherwise every publisher will create their own service and platforms.

Sony has a significant advantage over Microsoft in nearly every regard for the future. They can easily put PlayStation Streaming on every TV they manufacture for no cost. They're going to have the only premium video game console on the market which will make them synonymous with gaming. They'll eventually put out a handheld and a PC launcher (probably going further to include MacOS)

Their controllers are going to be synonymous with gaming, so when someone wants to buy a controller for their TV to stream... it's going to be a dual sense or dual sense knock off.

So, it's a big deal.

Totally agree.
And there is also something else called profit. Despite being a trillion dollar company, MS wants profit, like every company. And for now, there is just 80 billion dollars on expenses

 

[DenchDeckard]

I hope they do put everything everywhere (all at once) to be honest. But, the internet is literally trawling through anything they can to find something to report on.

 

[Malcolm9]

I love poor attempts at trying to conflate different scenarios in order to minimize this.

We're talking significantly different models, but let's take a look at both of the applications you mentioned.

Microsoft Word and the entire office suite runs like ass on MacOS. OneNote is especially worse on MacOS.

iTunes... which is really not relevant anymore is also severely limited on Windows when it came to managing apple hardware.

Now let's go to the heart of your argument. This idea that there is going to be largely a platform agnostic approach to things. This is largely true once hardware becomes ubiquitous and while we're closer than we were with the PS3/360 or PS2/Gamecube/Xbox but we're not there yet and it's a long road until we are. In the meantime we're going to see the formation of platforms as a service that will largely define the next stage of the industry.

Microsoft may become the largest 3rd party publisher, which will position itself to pivot as a platform holder in the future, but Nintendo, Sony, and Valve will have a significant advantage over them, because it can't just be games, it has to be ecosystem, otherwise every publisher will create their own service and platforms.

Sony has a significant advantage over Microsoft in nearly every regard for the future. They can easily put PlayStation Streaming on every TV they manufacture for no cost. They're going to have the only premium video game console on the market which will make them synonymous with gaming. They'll eventually put out a handheld and a PC launcher (probably going further to include MacOS)

Their controllers are going to be synonymous with gaming, so when someone wants to buy a controller for their TV to stream... it's going to be a dual sense or dual sense knock off.

So, it's a big deal.

I mean Playstation is already synonymous with gaming even with Xbox about, nothing will change in that respect.

 

[Allandor]

This is not to surprising. With the Activision blizzard deal, they signed contracts to bring out some games for the other platforms. For now it doesn't say anything about the direction Microsoft is going. Just stop those rumors and wait for something official.

 

[StueyDuck]

Microsoft Employee Inadvertently Adds More Fuel to the Xbox Multiplatform Fire

Why remove it. It's not like it's some secret new game announcement.

Only MS can go 3rd party and still somehow drop the ball on messaging and fumble

 

[Frwrd]

 

[TikiLagoonSam]

Lets go boys!

 

[Ozriel]

Pushsquare doesn’t realize MS employees already make games for all platforms?

 

[Bojanglez]

I guess technically this is true as things stand, the question is does this removal mean anything either way? Time may tell, could just have removed it off his own initiative

 

[JohnnyFootball]

I'm wondering if all this stuff has been out there a while or if people are just now finding it.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

I mean Playstation is already synonymous with gaming even with Xbox about, nothing will change in that respect.

This statement wasn't in regards to Xbox, but rather Sony's competitors in Valve and Nintendo who both have a large mind share when it comes to "gaming"

Within the next 5 years I guarantee you there will be a Sony handheld and there will be a PC Storefront if Microsoft bows out this year. The amount of money Sony spends specifically trying to compete with Microsoft combined with the additional revenue due to increased market share, Sony is going to not only spend that money, but invest more towards other elements of gaming.

All that said and we still haven't touched on mobile gaming, which I believe is coming as well. Similar to Microsoft, Sony would want a mobile game store on Apple and Android. And then there is still cloud which will push to TVs.

I called it a while back but Sony is going to redefine what PlayStation means.

 

[R3claimer117]

it’s not like they currently have no bathesda games on the platform to manage. All those bathesda games on PlayStation must be my imagination. I hope this think next week exposes a lot you and your agendas.

 

[R3claimer117]

I'm wondering if all this stuff has been out there a while or if people are just now finding it.

It’s has Microsoft already has all bathesda legacy games and live service games on PlayStation. This is nothing new people are just using this to create their agenda since it’s been the wish of many people here for Xbox to die some how they don’t see that their wishes has the opposite effect. The only bathesda games that aren’t on PlayStation or schedule for the platform are Indy, hifi rush, redfall, starfeild. Everything else from bathesda is on PlayStation.

 

[adamsapple]

I'm wondering if all this stuff has been out there a while or if people are just now finding it.

People are finding 4, 5 month old things and tweeting about it as they're changes made in the last couple of days. Way too many itchy trigger fingers.

 

[King Dazzar]

People are finding 4, 5 month old things and tweeting about it as they're changes made in the last couple of days. Way too many itchy trigger fingers.

This one states Feb 2024 in it though....

 

[splattered]

Maybe Microsoft is gonna pull support for all other platforms and just go xbox only. Just pay the cma fines and be about their merry way. No I'm not serious but feel free to dog pile.

 

[FrankWza]

 

[DJ12]

I hope they announce each game separately next week so we have enough time to post 'Another one' between them

 

[Barlow]

He could write about cheese and people would interpret it as a hint for 3rd-party

 

[recursive]

Everything

So what your saying is phil is gonna shit on someone's head.

 

[Mr Moose]

People are finding 4, 5 month old things and tweeting about it as they're changes made in the last couple of days. Way too many itchy trigger fingers.

Feb 2024. Yup, checks out.

 

[mckmas8808]

I hope they do put everything everywhere (all at once) to be honest. But, the internet is literally trawling through anything they can to find something to report on.

That's what the internet does. That's why we love the internet.

 

[FinalBossWithTheMostPower]

TBH now that I have the ROG I remote play PS5 games, have virtually every launcher, and emulation issa breeze.

As a consumer I'm winning, and Microsoft is keenly aware of the mutual benefits with this strategy.

MS is software and services company, office is on iOS.

This is the way.

 

[Pop]

Phil about to piss off a whole lot of people next week

Just give me Halo on Playstation. Thx Phil

 

[sloppyjoe_gamer]

 

[Esppiral]

Edit, wrong thread

 

[VAVA Mk2]

To be fair... doesn't this fall in line with what Microsoft already said about publishing to Nintendo and PlayStation when they were in trial about the Activision acquisition? The big unknown is if they truly in fact are killing first party hardware and not keeping ANY exclusives. (looks likely, though)

 

[kruis]

Did you know that Apple has a Windows version of iTunes? And Microsoft Word runs on macOS? These are crazy times we’re living in

What's next? Windows running Linux software? Powershell for Unix?